Push Button 727 in a street rod

Posted By: ramman16248

Push Button 727 in a street rod - 01/12/09 02:19 AM

I don't have a street rod yet, but I am looking into a Chrysler/Plymouth/Desoto/ or Dodge in the 1942-1948 range. I found a great driveline donor here locally. It is a 64 Newport with a 383 and a push button 727. How hard would it be to put the push button transmission and shifter in the old street rod? would it work? Thanks, Jason

Posted By: pushbutton

Re: Push Button 727 in a street rod - 01/12/09 02:35 AM

Using the pushbuttons would be the easy part. You could place them anywhere the cables would reach,dash or console.

Posted By: dOc !

Re: Push Button 727 in a street rod - 01/12/09 02:35 AM

Sure ..... but be sure the cables are long enough. I am putting the trans and shifter into a dragster.

Posted By: ramman16248

Re: Push Button 727 in a street rod - 01/12/09 02:47 AM

Ok, so the transmission shifts with cables? I don't really know how it works. So, as long as the cables reach, I can mount it anywhere? Are there any electronic conectors to it, or is it all cable mechanisms? If I know it can work I may step up to buy the driveline donor. Thanks, Jason

Posted By: pushbutton

Re: Push Button 727 in a street rod - 01/12/09 03:11 AM

All cables,shift and park. no electronics.Only have to hook up kick down linkage from carb.

Posted By: shinnery

Re: Push Button 727 in a street rod - 01/12/09 03:16 AM

Some years the back-up light switch is mounted on the push-button control box and possibly the starter switch is in with the neutral button, that is the only electrical connections you should find.
Bryce

Posted By: dOc !

Re: Push Button 727 in a street rod - 01/12/09 03:42 AM

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All cables,shift and park. no electronics.Only have to hook up kick down linkage from carb.

Not REALLY necessary ... You can just tie-back fully the lever(during HP usage) and partial tie-back during a cruise ...or make-it a permanent manual shift valve-body.

Posted By: pushbutton

Re: Push Button 727 in a street rod - 01/12/09 03:45 AM

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Some years the back-up light switch is mounted on the push-button control box and possibly the starter switch is in with the neutral button, that is the only electrical connections you should find.
Bryce

Backlight light switch,yes, starter sw. in N button I don't think in 64. They would look neat in a streetrod,I once saw some mounted on a roll bar in a old altered wheelbase car. The Kentucky Col. I think.

Posted By: RodStRace

Re: Push Button 727 in a street rod - 01/12/09 02:47 PM

It's a hot set-up for t-buckets. You can put it on the seat riser and save room.

Posted By: bboogieart

Re: Push Button 727 in a street rod - 01/12/09 04:19 PM

that 64 will have a seperate lever for park.
Other than that all is as mentioned above.
I have seen them used in custom applications and looks and works great

Posted By: pushbutton

Re: Push Button 727 in a street rod - 01/12/09 05:16 PM

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that 64 will have a seperate lever for park.
Other than that all is as mentioned above.
I have seen them used in custom applications and looks and works great

Posted By: moposcar

Re: Push Button 727 in a street rod - 01/12/09 10:28 PM

Don't intend to steal a post, but is a push button 727 different from a regular 727? My 56 has the pushbutton console, but someone put in a floor shifter. Don't know if the cables are there or not.

Posted By: pushbutton

Re: Push Button 727 in a street rod - 01/12/09 10:58 PM

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Don't intend to steal a post, but is a push button 727 different from a regular 727? My 56 has the pushbutton console, but someone put in a floor shifter. Don't know if the cables are there or not.

Prob. not,56 pushbuttons would have been on the dash. It could have a later model trans. Pushbutton trans cables go into the trany and control gear selection internaly. I don't think 56's had a park lever. 56 was the first year for pushbuttons. 55's had a lever on the dash,at least plymouth's did.

Posted By: poorboy

Re: Push Button 727 in a street rod - 01/13/09 01:19 AM

The push button shifters changed during the 65 model year. Its possible someone installed a 65 or newer 727 which required a different shift mechanisum. The floor shift would have been the fast, easy way out. Gene

Posted By: pushbutton

Re: Push Button 727 in a street rod - 01/13/09 01:57 AM

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The push button shifters changed during the 65 model year. Its possible someone installed a 65 or newer 727 which required a different shift mechanisum. The floor shift would have been the fast, easy way out. Gene

the 65's were the last year for the cable shift trans. although they got away from the pushbuttons. They are very desireable because 65's had a slip yoke instead of the ball and trunion joint.

Posted By: RTSrunner

Re: Push Button 727 in a street rod - 01/13/09 05:14 AM

Wouldn't a '56 trans be cast iron vs aluminum?What does your '56 have?
RT

Posted By: moposcar

Re: Push Button 727 in a street rod - 01/14/09 02:43 AM

It is definitely a later model transmission...motor too. Someone swapped out the originals and put the later model one in before i bought it. They had a big sheetmetal screw or something for the transmission crossmember to bolt onto the transmission mount. Glad someone didn't try driving it b/c it was a very unsafe swap out.

I am in the process of putting the fat man fab front end on it, then putting a 383 and 727 in it. It will be my wife's daily driver for our first kid.

Posted By: mbmopar

Re: Push Button 727 in a street rod - 02/04/09 03:46 AM

Using it is as easy as this - find a puchbutton shifter assy, ( I'm using one out of a 57 truck in my 55 truck ..."loadflite" for trucks ) get a shifter cable and bracket kit from inperial services..they will want to know what year os shifter for the correct cable end style....the kit comes with bracket that mounts to trans pan rail bolts and light weight shifter detent ball spring.......hook it up and go.

Well, it's not that easy, some fab work no doubt.
I'm planning on using the 1972 Torqueflite that came with the 440 New Yorker I stripped for the driveline and will be instlling it the 440/727 in my 55 Dodge truck. The cable i got seems almost 5 ft long if memory serves, they can custom make cables as well.

I can't wait to bolt it up and go,

ps - if you use a shifter from a trans that had no "park" detent feature built in, make shure your hand brake is good !

best,
Derek

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Push Button 727 in a street rod - 02/04/09 04:59 PM

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Wouldn't a '56 trans be cast iron vs aluminum?What does your '56 have?
RT

Late 56 Powerflites had an aluminum case. My 56 Plymouth has an iron case with aluminum bellhousing and aluminum tailshaft.

Only a few late-56 Chryslers and Imperials had Torqueflites; no Dodges or Plymouths. Torqueflites were available in all models in 1957.

AFAIK, pre-62 Torqueflites all had cast iron cases with separate aluminum bellhousings.

1962 was the first year for the park lever and the first year for the aluminum-case Torqueflite with the integral bellhousing. But 62 Chryslers did not have a park lever (even though they had the new aluminum trans, they still had the parking brake drum on the rear of the trans).

All of the pre-62 Torqueflites and Powerflites are hooked up to engines with the old-style extended crank, and the torque convertor bolts directly to the crank, with no flex plate.

Posted By: cantspel

Re: Push Button 727 in a street rod - 02/08/09 03:34 PM

I am currently putting a pushbutton trans in an early dodge truck. I was not familiar with this swap before I started and tracking down the individual pieces is a pain and its EXPENSIVE. I've got most all of what I need now but If I had to do it all over, I would have bought a car with everything as you stated. It would have been much easier and cheaper. All that aside, its way cool. Anybody can bolt in a ratchet shifter. Other thing to keep in mind is that when you call for anyparts, (overhaul kit, valvebody pieces, torque converter) it helps to know the year of your trans, and you must make it clear to your parts taker exactly what you have or you will get standard torqueflite parts.

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Push Button 727 in a street rod - 02/14/09 08:08 PM

Thought I would add my two cents. I built my 33 Plymouth with a cast iron TF behind the 392 (1957). I used the pushbutton assembly out of a 58 Dodge and it worked fine. However, ultimately, I was not happy with the CI TF and swapped in a TH350 out of my 40 Ford. I still have the pushbuttons to work it, although I would prefer to have PARK, which cannot be done with that mechanism. I went inside the tranny and reduced the detent spring force and built some pretty fancy linkage after the cable. I'm just about to switch to a B&M shifter, even though it won't be as cool.

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Posted By: bboogieart

Re: Push Button 727 in a street rod - 02/22/09 12:59 AM

So ramman 16248,
have you decided to get that 64 drive train?
I hope so.
Should be a unique set up. Get all you can brackets, pullies, linkage, cables and you will have a nice easy build.

maybe even some day a 6pack to go.