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1941 Dodge truck project

Posted By: Flipper1938

1941 Dodge truck project - 05/28/13 01:45 AM

This is the start of a new build thread. A 1941 Dodge Truck

This thing was bought out of the HAMB classifieds in 2006 and then piled in a corner. The truck body parts and 2001 Dakota chassis came as a package deal. The wheels came off of ebay. They are 90's-2000's era Halibrands that were made for a Dakota (17x7, 18x9.5)

First mock-up pic


headlight idea....37 ford lenses and rings


the front end is way too wide. the Dakota is going to get hacked to work (wheelbase is way too long too).


I got to play with Dad's latest toy to dig it out.


This thing is a total basket case....all in pieces. I have a lot of trial and error ahead of me to make this a truck again. The floor and firewall were cut out. I have a wc-54 firewall to go back in.

Anybody got pictures of how the front cap attaches to the cab? Anybody have a link to some refernce dimensions for the cab? I'm sure this one moved some without floors and firewall.
Posted By: fstfish66

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 05/28/13 07:08 AM

NICE PROJECT, maybe he sold it when he seen the front was to wide,, love the 37 ford headlite idea,,may be easier to widen the frotn fenders if you plan on using those kool wheels,,or maybe a different back space on the rim would get the tire inward,,,
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 05/28/13 11:59 AM

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NICE PROJECT, maybe he sold it when he seen the front was to wide,, love the 37 ford headlite idea,,may be easier to widen the frotn fenders if you plan on using those kool wheels,,or maybe a different back space on the rim would get the tire inward,,,



I had already thought about widening the fenders. I'm not sure about adding 3 or 4 inches per side (what it would take to tuck these wheels)
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 05/28/13 05:18 PM

Hi Richard,here are some pics of a guy building a camper and look at the front fender wideners, I think they are a stock Big truck item. but you could just add 3-4" to the inside lip to widen yours...

oh and it looks like a cool project you got there...Ron.







Posted By: rattler

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 05/28/13 09:29 PM

Richard, something to think about on the frame. You have already noticed that the Dak frame kicks up over the axle and stays too high for a flat bed floor. I cut the Dak frame just behind the cab on my 57 and welded on the shortened, narrowed, and boxed rear section of my 57 frame. This allowed me to have the original bed and floor height.
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 05/29/13 12:36 AM

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Hi Richard,here are some pics of a guy building a camper and look at the front fender wideners, I think they are a stock Big truck item. but you could just add 3-4" to the inside lip to widen yours...

oh and it looks like a cool project you got there...Ron.











Holy crap that thing is cool!

Are those "fender spacers" dodge items? I've never seen anything like that before. I've never seen fenders exactly like those before either.

The wide look does look good.
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 05/29/13 12:39 AM

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Richard, something to think about on the frame. You have already noticed that the Dak frame kicks up over the axle and stays too high for a flat bed floor. I cut the Dak frame just behind the cab on my 57 and welded on the shortened, narrowed, and boxed rear section of my 57 frame. This allowed me to have the original bed and floor height.



I didn't get a stock frame with mine.

I've been kicking around the idea that this might be a flatbed.
Posted By: cpeceo

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 05/29/13 08:50 AM

The only direct attachments between the front end and the cab are 2 bolts from inside the kick panel area into the fender flange (a couple inches forward of the door hinges) and then the 2 struts from the upper cowl that go forward to near the center of the upper "nose" section. On the original frame, the upper and lower grill sections and fenders are mostly held in place to the frame with the 2 fender inner panels (the panels with the vertical louvers) and the core support. The fender inner panels bolted front and rear onto the top of the frame rails. The core support, the large u-shaped channel, had 2 bolts at the bottom center that bolted to a flange on the front edge of the main cross member.

I'm currently moving my '41 from its original frame onto a '95 Dakota chassis with a '05 5.7L HEMI. A cross-member has to be fabricated for the core support, then the inner fender panels need to be adjusted to attach to something since they are no longer directly above nor parallel to the frame rails. I think I will use some sturdy 90 degree tabs attached to the Dakota frame rails to support the inner fender panels.

While we have my '41 cab off without nose or fenders attached, I'll take some pictures and measurements. My truck has been in Cali and Arizona all it's life and 100% rust and damage free, so measurements should be reliable.

My '41 frame will be on the market soon
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 05/30/13 01:28 AM

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The only direct attachments between the front end and the cab are 2 bolts from inside the kick panel area into the fender flange (a couple inches forward of the door hinges) and then the 2 struts from the upper cowl that go forward to near the center of the upper "nose" section. On the original frame, the upper and lower grill sections and fenders are mostly held in place to the frame with the 2 fender inner panels (the panels with the vertical louvers) and the core support. The fender inner panels bolted front and rear onto the top of the frame rails. The core support, the large u-shaped channel, had 2 bolts at the bottom center that bolted to a flange on the front edge of the main cross member.

I'm currently moving my '41 from its original frame onto a '95 Dakota chassis with a '05 5.7L HEMI. A cross-member has to be fabricated for the core support, then the inner fender panels need to be adjusted to attach to something since they are no longer directly above nor parallel to the frame rails. I think I will use some sturdy 90 degree tabs attached to the Dakota frame rails to support the inner fender panels.

While we have my '41 cab off without nose or fenders attached, I'll take some pictures and measurements. My truck has been in Cali and Arizona all it's life and 100% rust and damage free, so measurements should be reliable.

My '41 frame will be on the market soon



Thanks for the info. I would love to see pictures of a solid truck.

I went to pull-a-part and looked at an earlier Dakota frame, They are prettier than the 2001 frame (don't have the bolt on section at the rear). I was disappointed to find out they were only 2.5 inches or so narrower. That wouldn't be enough for me to tuck my wheels.
Posted By: poorboy

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 05/31/13 02:55 AM

I suspect you will find the difference in the width of the early Dakotas compared to the later models had a lot to do with the wheel offset. The rims on the 1st gen Dakota set in from the wheel mounting surface. I'm posting a picture of my 48 Plymouth (again), look at the differences between the front wheel offset and the rear wheel offset. The fronts are 15 x 6 from a 90 Dakota, the rear wheels are 15 x 6 1/2 off a Chrysler 5th Ave. Gene

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Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 06/01/13 07:08 PM

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headlight idea....37 ford lenses and rings


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I thought I was being unique. Turns out I was being Studebaker.

Posted By: dogdays

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 06/03/13 06:12 PM

Let's not forget Willys!

R.

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Posted By: fstfish66

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 06/07/13 07:48 AM

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headlight idea....37 ford lenses and rings


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I thought I was being unique. Turns out I was being Studebaker.





37 stud pick up ?? rare bird, interesting truck,,,

still love the 37 ford head lites on your dodge,,looks classy
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 06/08/13 02:11 PM

I think the studebaker has some neat features to copy/merge with the dodge features. Studebaker was definetly ahead of their time. That truck has a double walled bead too!

I've always looked at the peak in the dodge fenders and wished there was a way to highlight the peak even more. I looked at the headlights in the swap meet area of the Bunny Run car show and it clicked.
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 06/16/13 06:41 PM

I've been rolling possible solutions to the front wheel placement issue (narrow suspension vs. widen fenders). Well, this wekend i saw a 39 Pontiac and studied the shapes of the front sheetmetal. Widening the Dodge fenders inside the peaks should look a little bit like the front fenders on this car.







Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 06/22/13 04:46 PM

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While we have my '41 cab off without nose or fenders attached, I'll take some pictures and measurements. My truck has been in Cali and Arizona all it's life and 100% rust and damage free, so measurements should be reliable.




Cpeceo,

Have you had a chance to tear into your truck yet? I'd love to see pics of how this thing is supposed to go back together.
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 09/24/13 12:55 PM

This past weekend, I played with the Dodge again. I tried the Fargo big truck front cap that was in the pile of parts I got with this truck. It fits the Dakota chassis a lot better,but I will need to fill in the wheel openings to match the smaller wheels. I need to modify the radiator bracket to get it to sit a few inches lower.
Also, I need to cut about 10 inches out of the frame and then lower the crap out of the truck (seven inches up front and five in the rear).



IMG_6048 by Flipper_1938, on Flickr


IMG_6055 by Flipper_1938, on Flickr


IMG_6066 by Flipper_1938, on Flickr
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 09/24/13 01:11 PM

It should make a decent looking truck...


Fargo by Flipper_1938, on Flickr
Posted By: fstfish66

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 09/24/13 01:43 PM

looks good so far,,,i agree the front wheel openings do look large
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 10/12/13 11:44 PM

I gave up on trying to find a cheap stand alone efi set-up for a dodge and crossed over to the dark side. I bought a 5.3 LS motor/trans/ecm and harness/gas tank/driveshaft for $900. Chevy computers are apparently way easier to crack (people will remove the anti-theft/emissions stuff and re-flash for $75) and instructions to modify the harness are online.


IMG_6248 by Flipper_1938, on Flickr
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 10/13/13 05:41 AM

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I gave up on trying to find a cheap stand alone efi set-up for a dodge and crossed over to the dark side. I bougth a 5.3 LS motor/trans/ecm and harness/gas tank/driveshaft for $900.



That's sad to hear
Posted By: moparx

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 10/13/13 11:53 AM

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I gave up on trying to find a cheap stand alone efi set-up for a dodge and crossed over to the dark side. I bougth a 5.3 LS motor/trans/ecm and harness/gas tank/driveshaft for $900.



That's sad to hear


i remember not too long ago an article that used the gm ls harness and sensors to fire a 5.7 hemi. too bad you couldn't go that route.....
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 10/13/13 02:12 PM

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I gave up on trying to find a cheap stand alone efi set-up for a dodge and crossed over to the dark side. I bougth a 5.3 LS motor/trans/ecm and harness/gas tank/driveshaft for $900.



That's sad to hear


i remember not too long ago an article that used the gm ls harness and sensors to fire a 5.7 hemi. too bad you couldn't go that route.....




Where was that? I can unload my motor in a heartbeat.
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 10/13/13 03:58 PM

Is this it? http://nutterracingengines.com/hemitronix/hemitronix.pdf

...far from simple/easy to copy. Chrysler uses a different tooth count on the reluctor wheel than GM does. If you buy the kit to make the hemi think it is a LS motor...it is $2500
Posted By: fstfish66

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 10/13/13 08:48 PM

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I gave up on trying to find a cheap stand alone efi set-up for a dodge and crossed over to the dark side. I bougth a 5.3 LS motor/trans/ecm and harness/gas tank/driveshaft for $900.



That's sad to hear


i remember not too long ago an article that used the gm ls harness and sensors to fire a 5.7 hemi. too bad you couldn't go that route.....




mega squirt has adaptable kits
Posted By: fstfish66

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 10/13/13 08:51 PM

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I gave up on trying to find a cheap stand alone efi set-up for a dodge and crossed over to the dark side. I bougth a 5.3 LS motor/trans/ecm and harness/gas tank/driveshaft for $900.



That's sad to hear



people buy chevy for the same reason people shop at walmart,,,,its cheap junk and every one else is doing it,,IMO lol
Posted By: moparx

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 10/14/13 01:56 AM

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Is this it? http://nutterracingengines.com/hemitronix/hemitronix.pdf

...far from simple/easy to copy. Chrysler uses a different tooth count on the reluctor wheel than GM does. If you buy the kit to make the hemi think it is a LS motor...it is $2500


yes, that was the article i remember, but wow ! i didn't know it cost that much ! sure blows the "cheap" and "affordable" factors away !!!!!
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 10/14/13 03:49 AM

Richard which mopar engine were you going to use, 5.2 magnum or were you planing on a 5.7 hemi?.
there is a guy here on moparts (wldtm) that will set you up with a harness for a 5.2,
and hot wire has the hemi one for $995.
I hate that price too but is is only a few hundred more than the LS ones they sell.
Posted By: fstfish66

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 10/14/13 04:37 AM

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Richard which mopar engine were you going to use, 5.2 magnum or were you planing on a 5.7 hemi?.
there is a guy here on moparts (wldtm) that will set you up with a harness for a 5.2,
and hot wire has the hemi one for $995.
I hate that price too but is is only a few hundred more than the LS ones they sell.



if you are doing a 5.7 modern hemi pre 2009vvt...MSD has a unit that can be used to fire the ignition of a 5.7 or used to run the factory injection, i do not know if it will do both at the same time,,, they also have a wiring harness compatable with there HEMI box,if i remember correctly cost for the wiring harness was around 200 and the controller 485 depending where u buy it,,
Posted By: Robbins

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 10/14/13 02:10 PM

Please....put a mopar motor in it.
Posted By: pinkduster

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 10/14/13 02:16 PM

Chevy in a Dodge.
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 10/15/13 12:18 AM

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Richard which mopar engine were you going to use, 5.2 magnum or were you planing on a 5.7 hemi?.
there is a guy here on moparts (wldtm) that will set you up with a harness for a 5.2,
and hot wire has the hemi one for $995.
I hate that price too but is is only a few hundred more than the LS ones they sell.



The 5.7 hemi was the one I tried researching. From what I read it was a pain to make it work without using the steering column that came with the engine (I want to use the old steering wheel and column for looks). Making the trans work sounded like a pain too (ABS required?).

With the LS, the harness is free and programing to run the engine and trans without the original car is $75

I never tried looking for what it took to swap a 4.7, 5.2, or 5.9
Posted By: DusterKrazy

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 10/29/13 02:43 AM

Sell the gm stuff and put in a 12v Cummins

They do come in Dodge trucks anyways. Good luck with the project regardless.

My '41 has a 318/904. Bolted right onto the stock frame.
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 11/04/13 02:56 AM

edit: chevy motor pics removed

I'm gonna have to cut a lot of spring. I don't think it moved any when I put the motor on the frame.

IMG_6293 by Flipper_1938, on Flickr
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 11/04/13 03:58 AM

I've got to stop looking at this thread,
it make me so sad seeing this
happen
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 11/04/13 01:35 PM

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I've got to stop looking at this thread,
it make me so sad seeing this
happen



The way I see it, I'm still saving a badly hacked up Dodge truck. If somebody wants to undo the chevy motor part sometime down the road...they can.
Posted By: bigdad

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 11/05/13 12:46 AM

Chevy in a Mopar



Posted By: moparpollack

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 11/05/13 02:37 AM

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I've got to stop looking at this thread,
it make me so sad seeing this
happen



The way I see it, I'm still saving a badly hacked up Dodge truck. If somebody wants to undo the chevy motor part sometime down the road...they can.



Scrap the Dakota frame too, the S10 is narrower and easier to get the Chevy motor in.
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 11/05/13 02:05 PM

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Scrap the Dakota frame too, the S10 is narrower and easier to get the Chevy motor in.



...and the Dodge body....
Posted By: poorboy

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 11/06/13 03:19 AM

If you're going to scrap the Dodge, I will take it off your hands. I'll even take it on that Dakota frame. I got some Mopar stuff laying around here I'd be happy to fix it up with.
It would make a nice yard mate (don't have garage space) to my 48 Plymouth coupe. Gene
Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 11/07/13 04:41 AM

I can't wait to ditch the Ford motor in my 37 but I'm stuck with it for now, truck deserves a mopar motor.

IMO if all you have is body sheet metal parts you aren't saving anything
Posted By: poorboy

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 11/07/13 04:54 AM

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I can't wait to ditch the Ford motor in my 37 but I'm stuck with it for now, truck deserves a mopar motor.

IMO if all you have is body sheet metal parts you aren't saving anything



I can tell your not from the rust belt. If you have body sheet metal left from anything pre 1970, you have something worth saving! A little , , , & and a modern drive train on a decent chassis makes a fun summer ride. Some of us are more concerned about what brand drive train goes in what brand of vehicle. (I'm amongst the group). Gene
Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 11/07/13 06:36 AM

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I can't wait to ditch the Ford motor in my 37 but I'm stuck with it for now, truck deserves a mopar motor.

IMO if all you have is body sheet metal parts you aren't saving anything



I can tell your not from the rust belt. If you have body sheet metal left from anything pre 1970, you have something worth saving! A little , , , & and a modern drive train on a decent chassis makes a fun summer ride. Some of us are more concerned about what brand drive train goes in what brand of vehicle. (I'm amongst the group). Gene



I guess I'm spoiled, my 37 has so little rust I take it for granted
Posted By: fstfish66

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 11/07/13 07:22 AM

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I've got to stop looking at this thread,
it make me so sad seeing this
happen



I AGREE
Posted By: fstfish66

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 11/07/13 07:36 AM

some car guys use what they have i get it,,,but im just tired of seeing chevy motors in every thing encluding icon ford bodys,,, lets face it chevy got popular because of pricing,,not because they ever spent big money in developing any thing,,they just took and copied,, do your home work if you dont believe me,,,if you have a chevy motor and cant efford some thing else,cant knock any one for wanting to be a hot rodder,,,but when i see big bucks i na street rod non GM body and a GM motor theres no excuse,,, chevy in a non GM bodied vehicle or chevy in general is what i call the walmart syndrom cheap stuff and every one else is doing it,,,,,,,,good luck with your build
Posted By: DusterKrazy

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 11/07/13 07:00 PM

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some car guys use what they have i get it,,,but im just tired of seeing chevy motors in every thing encluding icon ford bodys,,, lets face it chevy got popular because of pricing,,not because they ever spent big money in developing any thing,,they just took and copied,, do your home work if you dont believe me,,,if you have a chevy motor and cant efford some thing else,cant knock any one for wanting to be a hot rodder,,,but when i see big bucks i na street rod non GM body and a GM motor theres no excuse,,, chevy in a non GM bodied vehicle or chevy in general is what i call the walmart syndrom cheap stuff and every one else is doing it,,,,,,,,good luck with your build



This x10...

I don't get all the support on here that justifies putting that junk into a Mopar. It is a Mopar site and they wonder why we don't get it

Good luck with the build regardless.
Posted By: Supercuda

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 11/08/13 12:52 AM

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I don't get all the support on here that justifies putting that junk into a Mopar. It is a Mopar site and they wonder why we don't get it

Good luck with the build regardless.



Because it's not your truck, it's not my truck and unless you want to front the cash to swap out what's in it for what you think ought to be in it your opinion is moot.
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 11/08/13 01:12 AM

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It is a Mopar site and they wonder why we don't get it





This is the first dodge that I have ever owned. It looks like a Dodge to me...I still consider it a Dodge even if you don't.

I thought I was being nice by sharing my "Dodge" build. I guess I was wrong. Y'all have a nice day.
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 11/08/13 03:16 AM

Richard PLEASE try to understand this is a mopar site and we love our mopars, and mopar people feel that a mopar deserves a mopar in it.
putting a chevy or ford engine in one is just not right..
in our opinion...

it's like saying mopars motors are junk and I want to put a good engine in my car(truck)
that is like a slap in the face to a mopar loyalist .

think about it this way, say you had a nice 66-67 nova or a 68 camaro and went to a camaro or nova site
and said you had a dodge 318 or a 302 ford engine just sitting in your garage and to save money you were going to put that engine in YOUR chevy.
can you imagine what the response would be from the chevy guys

I did a test a few years ago on a camaro and a nova site saying that was what I wanted to do and I was called every name in the book for ruining a good car with that junk mopar engine.

I was also told to sell that car and pick up a dart or challenger to put my engine in and let someone who likes chevys build the car that I was going to ruin.


I know you have a very nice old chevy truck, so i know you like chevys and that is cool,
but think how little your truck would be worth with a ford or mopar engine in it and what people would think of it...

I bet you never even thought about using anything but a chevy in your chevy

with all that being said, it IS YOUR truck and your money so you can do anything you want to your truck.

I just think it would more unique and cool if it was mopar powered

so have fun with your build but please don't get mad with the mopar crowd if someone says something negitive,
we're just tired of all the chevy engines in our beloved mopars. Ron...
Posted By: poorboy

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 11/08/13 04:01 AM

Well said Ron.
Gene
Posted By: DusterKrazy

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 11/08/13 04:03 AM

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I don't get all the support on here that justifies putting that junk into a Mopar. It is a Mopar site and they wonder why we don't get it

Good luck with the build regardless.



Because it's not your truck, it's not my truck and unless you want to front the cash to swap out what's in it for what you think ought to be in it your opinion is moot.



Well..or the gm stuff can be sold off for Chrysler stuff since everyone is so hot over it.
My Chrysler drivetrain was cheap. My opinion moot? Sure but my opinion is worth
what you paid me for it and vice versa....


wished him good luck with it regardless...
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 11/13/13 06:18 PM

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The 5.7 hemi was the one I tried researching. From what I read it was a pain to make it work without using the steering column that came with the engine (I want to use the old steering wheel and column for looks). Making the trans work sounded like a pain too (ABS required?).

I never tried looking for what it took to swap a 4.7, 5.2, or 5.9




Richard it is easy to use the 5.7 hemi but Yes it does cost some dollars to use one, the hot wire harness is around 1k but you don't need a special column, just their harness and pcm, I plan to use this setup on my 34 phaeton delivery.

but if you went with a older 318 or 360 with a carb you won't need any extra harness or computer.
they are easy to wire up and work great in these trucks,
My squattie fire truck had a 318 that I bought for less than $100.00 it ran great and got around 18-19 mpg on the road. Ron....

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Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 12/29/13 05:25 PM

The rad core


IMG_6294 by Flipper_1938, on Flickr

and the front crossmember


IMG_6296 by Flipper_1938, on Flickr

So I started cutting


IMG_6298 by Flipper_1938, on Flickr

That helped some, but not enough


IMG_6302 by Flipper_1938, on Flickr

I really had to hack the crap out of things to get the front end to drop down where it needed to be


IMG_6323 by Flipper_1938, on Flickr


IMG_6318 by Flipper_1938, on Flickr


IMG_6317 by Flipper_1938, on Flickr

other side


IMG_6310 by Flipper_1938, on Flickr

top side


IMG_6319 by Flipper_1938, on Flickr

closer to being right. This is still at stock dakota suspension height.


IMG_6325 by Flipper_1938, on Flickr

This how I set the cap on and off 100 times


IMG_6308 by Flipper_1938, on Flickr
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 12/29/13 08:31 PM

The cab is moved back quite a bit from the mock up with the dodge 1/2 ton sheetmetal. I think it will be a more streamlined look once the wheel openings are filled in and the truck is lowered.


IMG_6034 by Flipper_1938, on Flickr


IMG_6315 by Flipper_1938, on Flickr
Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 12/29/13 08:31 PM

What's older the truck or that barn you are working in?
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 12/29/13 11:21 PM

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What's older the truck or that barn you are working in?



The barn is barely older than the 2001 dakota chassis. I think dad started his shop in 1998....but he had looked at old barns for probably 30-40 years before he figured out exactly what he wanted to build. It is 70x70 with a 30x70 open area down the middle and 14 20x10 bays on the sides (seven on each side).

The big window in the back was from a 30's Ford dealership in Tunica, MS that was salvaged when the casinos went in. The huge front doors were built from cypress rafters slavaged from the same building. Dad built the whole building pretty much by himself. He built the sides with the stalls and then spanned the middle with arches that he assembled in a jig on the ground. He then raised them into position using a homemade crane (35 ft tall tower mounted on a 16ft car hauler trailer, powered by a suzuki samurai with a winch and trailer hitch mounted on the front). He would build the trusses, raise them in the air, drive them to their destination and nail them in place. Man, I wish I would have taken pictures of the set-up. It worked incredibly well.

Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 12/30/13 02:52 AM

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What's older the truck or that barn you are working in?



The barn is barely older than the 2001 dakota chassis. I think dad started his shop in 1998....but he had looked at old barns for probably 30-40 years before he figured out exactly what he wanted to build. It is 70x70 with a 30x70 open area down the middle and 14 20x10 bays on the sides (seven on each side).

The big window in the back was from a 30's Ford dealership in Tunica, MS that was salvaged when the casinos went in. The huge front doors were built from cypress rafters slavaged from the same building. Dad built the whole building pretty much by himself. He built the sides with the stalls and then spanned the middle with arches that he assembled in a jig on the ground. He then raised them into position using a homemade crane (35 ft tall tower mounted on a 16ft car hauler trailer, powered by a suzuki samurai with a winch and trailer hitch mounted on the front). He would build the trusses, raise them in the air, drive them to their destination and nail them in place. Man, I wish I would have taken pictures of the set-up. It worked incredibly well.





Awesome barn, we don't have things like that out here
Posted By: fstfish66

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 01/02/14 11:30 PM

the barn is a beauty
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 05/28/14 06:07 AM


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Posted By: fstfish66

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 06/15/14 08:52 AM

looks kool
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 08/29/14 02:52 AM

looks like it sets pretty nice Richard.

are you going to close up the wheel opening?

thats what we did with the big truck fenders we used.
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 08/30/14 03:03 AM

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looks like it sets pretty nice Richard.

are you going to close up the wheel opening?

thats what we did with the big truck fenders we used.



Yep, they are gonna get closed in. Maybe not quite 1/2 ton tight though.
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 08/31/14 02:02 AM

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looks like it sets pretty nice Richard.

are you going to close up the wheel opening?

thats what we did with the big truck fenders we used.



Yep, they are gonna get closed in. Maybe not quite 1/2 ton tight though.




Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 09/29/14 02:37 PM

I hit the swap meet at Delta River Cruisin' at Samstown Casino in Tunica, MS and found this. A bumper identified as a 51 chevy ? rear bumper with a $40 price tag. I knew it wasn't chevy, and thought it might be raw material for a Fargo bumper. I ended up talking the guy down to $15. I'm pretty sure it originally came on the front of a mid-50's Studebaker Hawk!


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Posted By: moparpollack

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 09/30/14 01:30 AM

This is my favorite part of a build when you can buy parts on the cheap. My front bumper was $25 with brackets.
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 05/20/15 05:12 AM

I haven't done much recently, but I'm gonna get back on it...
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 05/26/15 04:42 AM

Finally got around to trying the camaro exhaust manifolds...I like 'em way better than the truck manifolds. There will be lots more room for passengers feet.

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Started mocking stuff up. Seat is a mystery bench that came with the dodge. column is a mystery column too.
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not a clue....
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Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 05/26/15 04:44 AM

I can't believe they didn't center the gauges to the steering wheel.
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lots of set-back
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I actually did something!
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I welded in the tubes for the middle body mounts (I'm doing 6 for the cab)
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Then welded in a crossbar at the rear of the door opening that will be two more body mount locations.
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Since I'm no longer doing the dropped down floor thing, I think I'm going to put some tube in the rocker area to make the front body mounts easier to attach
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Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 05/26/15 04:48 AM

Anybody know if the steering wheel and column are Dodge/Plymouth/Fargo?

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Posted By: moparx

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 05/26/15 02:42 PM

the coil attached to the bottom of the column is interesting.
beer
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 05/26/15 08:48 PM

Anybody think it might be from a WC54 military ambulance? I think we had the column from one of those stashed in the barn.
Posted By: RUMBLON

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 06/03/15 04:09 PM

Originally Posted By Flipper1938
I gave up on trying to find a cheap stand alone efi set-up for a dodge and crossed over to the dark side. I bought a 5.3 LS motor/trans/ecm and harness/gas tank/driveshaft for $900. Chevy computers are apparently way easier to crack (people will remove the anti-theft/emissions stuff and re-flash for $75) and instructions to modify the harness are online.


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UGH!
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 06/07/15 10:31 PM

I'm using a late model motor (2001) but I still want it to look like a hot rod. I just know there is a tunnel ram hiding in that plastic truck intake.

....kinda funky cutting/welding on plastic

Before
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first round of cuts. Getting rid of the guides for the wiring harness and the mounting bosses for the engine cover cleans things up a bunch
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No turning back now....

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I'm leaving the functional stuff where it is....I thought about shaving everything, but I still plan on running the stock ugly fuel rails (I don't want the rails to stand out any more than they do now). I'm shooting for something that looks like it could be OEM...just prettier.
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Posted By: OzHemi

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 06/08/15 12:51 AM

Maybe swap to an Edelbrock intake?

I run one on my LS in my Torana, and aside from better mid range and upper RPM power, it does look pretty cool too I'd say.

(I moved the coil packs as well off the valve covers and inbetween the intake runners)

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Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 06/08/15 01:07 AM

I'd love to run the Edelbrock....my wallet won't let me. I'm trying to make the stocker look a little like yours
Posted By: OzHemi

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 06/08/15 01:13 AM

I bought mine when they had first come out (Saw it at SEMA and ordered one as soon as Summit had got them in stock) and it wasn't all that bad a price really..

Especially compared to other LS intakes at the time! Holley does a really tall style one now as well I have seen.. but been really happy with the Edelbrock.
Not a lot of car people seem to run them from the height though is all..I have a factory rear facing/cowl scoop on my car though so have the room under that.

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Posted By: moparpollack

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 06/08/15 02:20 AM

Here's what my buddy does to dress them up. up

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Posted By: OzHemi

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 06/08/15 02:24 AM

Obviously eating blueberries doesn't help you have steady hands when it comes to taking pics. nervous tonguue
Posted By: moparpollack

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 06/08/15 02:57 AM

Originally Posted By OzHemi
Obviously eating blueberries doesn't help you have steady hands when it comes to taking pics. nervous tonguue


We had an earthquake that day. shruggy
Posted By: OzHemi

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 06/08/15 03:04 AM

work

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Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 06/08/15 03:27 AM

It is welded. but not sanded smooth.

It took a lot more work that I thought it would.

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Still have to weld up the EGR hole and the purge solenoid hole
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It's the cat's a$$ smile
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Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 06/08/15 03:30 AM

Originally Posted By moparpollack
Here's what my buddy does to dress them up. up


Yep, that is what I'm trying to do. Mine probably won't be that shiney though.
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 06/09/15 09:27 PM

still wish this truck was getting any one of these frown shruggy


Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 06/13/15 03:53 AM

I know. I wish I could afford any of those plus a 4 speed automatic.
Posted By: OzHemi

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 06/13/15 04:06 AM

Hard to beat a 5.3/4L60E for bang for the buck really...
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 06/14/15 03:33 AM

Originally Posted By Flipper1938
I know. I wish I could afford any of those plus a 4 speed automatic.



I have a great running 93 5.2(318)and (518)4speed OD out of a Dakota for sale right now for $1,000.00 and and not one call.
it has the computer and EFI and everything, PS pump,air unit,starter and exaust manifolds shruggy

and OZ,I know the chevy stuff is Cheap.
but so is the mopar stuff if you look around

yeah a 5.7-6.1 hemi is nice but cost more
but the older mopar V8s work well and are reasonable to.

hell a friend of mine is building a 33 PLy coupe I sold him and he just picked up a great running 440/727 from a motor home with less than 47,000 miles on it for $600.00 up cool

like I said, I just wish this truck could be mopar powered...
Oh well can't save them all,wish I could.
I'm sure this truck will be a fun truck when done,
and it would be fun with a mopar in it as well.... punkrocka up
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 06/18/15 04:19 AM

I really hope it turns out cool. I want to make it my daily driver.
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 06/25/15 05:29 AM

It is supposed to be a nice cool weekend coming up. Hopefully I will get the body mounts fabbed and start bead rolling some floor pans
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 07/29/15 07:15 AM

I'm fixing to piss some Toyota people off too. I'm gonna stick a chevy LS motor into my daughter's FJ40 :-)
Posted By: OzHemi

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 07/29/15 04:31 PM

It's ok, they are only toyota people.. laugh2
Posted By: Mopar Ron

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 07/29/15 07:27 PM

Originally Posted By Flipper1938
I'm fixing to piss some Toyota people off too. I'm gonna stick a chevy LS motor into my daughter's FJ40 :-)



here's a cool idea, use the LS engine from the 41 for the Toyota and get and put a MOPAR engine in the 41.
stirthepot up cool wrench


Just wish full thinking wave beer
Posted By: OzHemi

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 07/29/15 10:47 PM

Hey Ron, I got the SRT10 engine and trans here...soon as I find a donor Chevy C10 it will be going in. laugh2
Posted By: Flipper1938

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 08/02/15 07:06 AM

Nope. It is a 2nd 5.3 that I have bought. I only paid $550 for this one.

edit: it cost me $40 to replace the cut harness and another $15 for the drive by wire gas pedal from pull-a-part. I'm up to $605 now.
Posted By: mr5racing

Re: 1941 Dodge truck project - 08/11/15 02:44 PM

its gonna be a nice looking truck, keep up the good work.
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