Who has the Fastest NSS car!!!!

Posted By: old_racer

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 12:36 AM

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I bought my 1963 plymouth Belvedere new in 64. It is a stage III 426 aluminum car with all aluminum frontend with trunk mounted battery. It came with the new improved 518 stage III heads.I believe the fastest I went with it was 12.27 on a set of drag 500 slicks out back on SS springs.
I still race it to this day, only modifications I made were a set of Cal-tracs and hooker headers bumped up the compression and a roller cam for some more power,Dvorack prepped my heads years ago and we were able to go low 11's. 11.08
I still enjoy the NSS racing and love how these cars are still racing strong after all these years.

How about a picture! I'd love to see that car! They're is a guy that races with us once and a while at Cordova Ill. that has a 64 hemi aluminum Dodge that he bought I heard in 65,it's red and silver and it still has all the old lettering on it from back then and the aluminum is getting ratty here and there but its a real car and he's having fun with it, it's really neat to look at. I can't remember his name at the moment.
Russ

Posted By: dvw

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 12:37 AM

As far as tires go, if I can't hook on the legal tires I need to go back to chassis set-up school.
Doug

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 12:42 AM

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I bought my 1963 plymouth Belvedere new in 64. It is a stage III 426 aluminum car with all aluminum frontend with trunk mounted battery. It came with the new improved 518 stage III heads.I believe the fastest I went with it was 12.27 on a set of drag 500 slicks out back on SS springs.
I still race it to this day, only modifications I made were a set of Cal-tracs and hooker headers bumped up the compression and a roller cam for some more power,Dvorack prepped my heads years ago and we were able to go low 11's. 11.08
I still enjoy the NSS racing and love how these cars are still racing strong after all these years.

How about a picture! I'd love to see that car! They're is a guy that races with us once and a while at Cordova Ill. that has a 64 hemi aluminum Dodge that he bought I heard in 65,it's red and silver and it still has all the old lettering on it from back then and the aluminum is getting ratty here and there but its a real car and he's having fun with it, it's really neat to look at. I can't remember his name at the moment.
Russ

Yes I have a few pictures of the car now as it sits.My brother also has a 64 Aluminum Savoy. We both got them in White with Red interiors.
We still retain the factory lapbelts and pushbutton on the dash board.
I did however break the ball & trunion years ago and I put in a 65 slip yoke transmission.

Posted By: 5126brl No more

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 12:45 AM

Oh! I thought it was all original...

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 01:01 AM

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I bought my 1963 plymouth Belvedere new in 64. It is a stage III 426 aluminum car with all aluminum frontend with trunk mounted battery. It came with the new improved 518 stage III heads.I believe the fastest I went with it was 12.27 on a set of drag 500 slicks out back on SS springs.
I still race it to this day, only modifications I made were a set of Cal-tracs and hooker headers bumped up the compression and a roller cam for some more power,Dvorack prepped my heads years ago and we were able to go low 11's. 11.08
I still enjoy the NSS racing and love how these cars are still racing strong after all these years.

I have to tell you I would love to own your car... That must of been awesome to walk into a Dodge or Plymouth dealership back then spend under 5k and walk out with a serious car with a max wedge with a crossram or a hemi......ood luck with your car post a picture of it if you have one...

Rob

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 01:07 AM

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Casey.....Casey.....Casey....

I cant believer you think its just that easy to bolt on a nitrous plate and go that fast....LOL

Those that have never used it always like to dis-credit the people using it to go fast. Im not discrediting anyone...Just stated who i thought had the fastest NSS car, and his haters jump right on that. meanwhile i really dont know any of these guys other than to maybe say hi. This site is more biased than i thought, because im getting PM's about voicing my opinion in here??? WOW ....
AND i know how hard it is to go 8 anything WITH OR WITHOUT nitrous...SO props to all the fast NSS cars out there getting it done while still maintaining that 1960's look.

Also accept my apology if you took my sarcasm the wrong way, just indicating that a lot of Mopar guys really are stuck in the 60's...in technology as well as mentally...LOL

PEACE

PS...Just re-read your post, all i want is for the "haters" to see that yes SSR is going in the 8's with just an Indy head, very 1960's appearing car. Thats all...AND for the record, when i get on the same track/pits as SSR im going to show him what a real street car runs like

Yes your right he just broke into the 8's he went an 8.97 in Nov in great air and it was 55 deg out...

Tony we are waiting for your dart to take out that 1200 hp TS motor next season... His car was supposed to go 8.20's from what I recall reading under his car picture...

He went the 8.90's with the light blue 65 dodge. The black car has gone 8.50's and still tying to sort it out.

Did you see it run 8.50's?

DID YOU? I know I DIDN"T see it either but what's the point? This is a nice informative thread and now the doubting and question comment.

Do I have to send you back into your garage like I sent Al the other day?

LMFAO Ang im not AL ill send you somewhere else my friend... Dont kill this thread its going good..."ANYWAY BACK TO YOU JIM"

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 01:09 AM

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So we are 100% positive that a B-1 is legal, and a sheet metal intake is legal....... so what if a SS/AH car shows up on a 10.5 and no transbrake.....whats the ruling there

Im thinking I need to put up a few thousand dollars for a heads up NSS shoot out.......

Maybe we can get SSR to come out and run Poppa J and they dont even have to put up any money! That way we can really find out who has the fasted NSS car

And I know, its a bracket race.....but Mopar racers as a whole would rather chase a timeslip than win a bracket race and we all know that....I Know I do

I know Casey will show up thats for sure.... But the heads up NSS race sounds good to me.. Maybe we can get Tony with his dart to run BigFoot now that sounds like a better race...

Posted By: actionange

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 01:28 AM

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Casey.....Casey.....Casey....

I cant believer you think its just that easy to bolt on a nitrous plate and go that fast....LOL

Those that have never used it always like to dis-credit the people using it to go fast. Im not discrediting anyone...Just stated who i thought had the fastest NSS car, and his haters jump right on that. meanwhile i really dont know any of these guys other than to maybe say hi. This site is more biased than i thought, because im getting PM's about voicing my opinion in here??? WOW ....
AND i know how hard it is to go 8 anything WITH OR WITHOUT nitrous...SO props to all the fast NSS cars out there getting it done while still maintaining that 1960's look.

Also accept my apology if you took my sarcasm the wrong way, just indicating that a lot of Mopar guys really are stuck in the 60's...in technology as well as mentally...LOL

PEACE

PS...Just re-read your post, all i want is for the "haters" to see that yes SSR is going in the 8's with just an Indy head, very 1960's appearing car. Thats all...AND for the record, when i get on the same track/pits as SSR im going to show him what a real street car runs like

Yes your right he just broke into the 8's he went an 8.97 in Nov in great air and it was 55 deg out...

Tony we are waiting for your dart to take out that 1200 hp TS motor next season... His car was supposed to go 8.20's from what I recall reading under his car picture...

He went the 8.90's with the light blue 65 dodge. The black car has gone 8.50's and still tying to sort it out.

Did you see it run 8.50's?

DID YOU? I know I DIDN"T see it either but what's the point? This is a nice informative thread and now the doubting and question comment.

Do I have to send you back into your garage like I sent Al the other day?

LMFAO Ang im not AL ill send you somewhere else my friend... Dont kill this thread its going good..."ANYWAY BACK TO YOU JIM"

Sorry Rob! In keeping with the Christmas spirit I'm don't want thread to stop. Thats why I commented as I did.
This is a breath of fresh air in an otherwise rotten world.
I'm going back to the garage now to do more work on my car.
On another note lets ALL meet at the Beaver in July so all the really fast NSS cars can duke it out- East coast vs Mid west. OK?
BTW- Who's JIM?

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Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 01:31 AM

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Casey.....Casey.....Casey....

I cant believer you think its just that easy to bolt on a nitrous plate and go that fast....LOL

Those that have never used it always like to dis-credit the people using it to go fast. Im not discrediting anyone...Just stated who i thought had the fastest NSS car, and his haters jump right on that. meanwhile i really dont know any of these guys other than to maybe say hi. This site is more biased than i thought, because im getting PM's about voicing my opinion in here??? WOW ....
AND i know how hard it is to go 8 anything WITH OR WITHOUT nitrous...SO props to all the fast NSS cars out there getting it done while still maintaining that 1960's look.

Also accept my apology if you took my sarcasm the wrong way, just indicating that a lot of Mopar guys really are stuck in the 60's...in technology as well as mentally...LOL

PEACE

PS...Just re-read your post, all i want is for the "haters" to see that yes SSR is going in the 8's with just an Indy head, very 1960's appearing car. Thats all...AND for the record, when i get on the same track/pits as SSR im going to show him what a real street car runs like

Yes your right he just broke into the 8's he went an 8.97 in Nov in great air and it was 55 deg out...

Tony we are waiting for your dart to take out that 1200 hp TS motor next season... His car was supposed to go 8.20's from what I recall reading under his car picture...

He went the 8.90's with the light blue 65 dodge. The black car has gone 8.50's and still tying to sort it out.

Did you see it run 8.50's?

DID YOU? I know I DIDN"T see it either but what's the point? This is a nice informative thread and now the doubting and question comment.

Do I have to send you back into your garage like I sent Al the other day?

LMFAO Ang im not AL ill send you somewhere else my friend... Dont kill this thread its going good..."ANYWAY BACK TO YOU JIM"

Sorry Rob! In keeping with the Christmas spirit I'm don't want thread to stop. Thats why I commented as I did.
This is a breath of fresh air in an otherwise rotten world.
I'm going back to the garage now to do more work on my car.
On another note lets ALL meet at the Beaver in July so all the really fast NSS cars can duke it out- East coast vs Mid west. OK?
BTW- Who's JIM?

Have fun in your garage.... By the way can the picture be any smaller?

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 01:36 AM

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I bought my 1963 plymouth Belvedere new in 64. It is a stage III 426 aluminum car with all aluminum frontend with trunk mounted battery. It came with the new improved 518 stage III heads.I believe the fastest I went with it was 12.27 on a set of drag 500 slicks out back on SS springs.
I still race it to this day, only modifications I made were a set of Cal-tracs and hooker headers bumped up the compression and a roller cam for some more power,Dvorack prepped my heads years ago and we were able to go low 11's. 11.08
I still enjoy the NSS racing and love how these cars are still racing strong after all these years.

How about a picture! I'd love to see that car! They're is a guy that races with us once and a while at Cordova Ill. that has a 64 hemi aluminum Dodge that he bought I heard in 65,it's red and silver and it still has all the old lettering on it from back then and the aluminum is getting ratty here and there but its a real car and he's having fun with it, it's really neat to look at. I can't remember his name at the moment.
Russ

Yes I have a few pictures of the car now as it sits.My brother also has a 64 Aluminum Savoy. We both got them in White with Red interiors.
We still retain the factory lapbelts and pushbutton on the dash board.
I did however break the ball & trunion years ago and I put in a 65 slip yoke transmission.

Are both cars auto or stick? White with red sound nice to me....

Posted By: Get-X

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 01:53 AM

Here's the fastest NSS car, it just doesn't know it yet!

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 01:56 AM

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Here's the fastest NSS car, it just doesn't know it yet!

Nice how about some more pictures....

Posted By: joshking440

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 02:01 AM

So we are 100% positive that a B-1 is legal, and a sheet metal intake is legal....... so what if a SS/AH car shows up on a 10.5 and no transbrake.....whats the ruling there

Im thinking I need to put up a few thousand dollars for a heads up NSS shoot out.......

Maybe we can get SSR to come out and run Poppa J and they dont even have to put up any money! That way we can really find out who has the fasted NSS car

And I know, its a bracket race.....but Mopar racers as a whole would rather chase a timeslip than win a bracket race and we all know that....I Know I do
Im thinking I need to put up a few thousand dollars for a heads up NSS shoot out.......

Maybe we can get SSR to come out and run Poppa J and they dont even have to put up any money! That way we can really find out who has the fasted NSS car

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 02:05 AM

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So we are 100% positive that a B-1 is legal, and a sheet metal intake is legal....... so what if a SS/AH car shows up on a 10.5 and no transbrake.....whats the ruling there

Im thinking I need to put up a few thousand dollars for a heads up NSS shoot out.......

Maybe we can get SSR to come out and run Poppa J and they dont even have to put up any money! That way we can really find out who has the fasted NSS car

And I know, its a bracket race.....but Mopar racers as a whole would rather chase a timeslip than win a bracket race and we all know that....I Know I do
Im thinking I need to put up a few thousand dollars for a heads up NSS shoot out.......

Maybe we can get SSR to come out and run Poppa J and they dont even have to put up any money! That way we can really find out who has the fasted NSS car

SS/AH car should be totally legal I dont see why it wouldnt be but it would have to be a NSS/FX race then because of the sheetmetal intake since I have the same issue...

Posted By: dannysbee

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 02:16 AM

Being it ia a race for the fastest it stands to reason that the AFX NSS cars would be the ones competing. The SS/AH car will have to change tires.

Posted By: ro23car

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 02:19 AM

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So we are 100% positive that a B-1 is legal, and a sheet metal intake is legal....... so what if a SS/AH car shows up on a 10.5 and no transbrake.....whats the ruling there

Im thinking I need to put up a few thousand dollars for a heads up NSS shoot out.......

Maybe we can get SSR to come out and run Poppa J and they dont even have to put up any money! That way we can really find out who has the fasted NSS car

And I know, its a bracket race.....but Mopar racers as a whole would rather chase a timeslip than win a bracket race and we all know that....I Know I do

i for 1 run a cast crossram and yes id like to see a ah car with 10.5 and no transbrake run. im sure they would get down the track but it may be difficult for them. and my hats off to those guys for going as fast as they are.

Posted By: ro23car

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 02:22 AM

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Here's the fastest NSS car, it just doesn't know it yet!

where lol.

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 02:23 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpVIoCncZu8&feature=related

Posted By: ro23car

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 02:28 AM

maybe the real qusetion should be who has the fastest nmca nss/nss fx car. and who has the fastest nss 420 car because of the different rulesi.e tire size,not electrics.sheetmetal vs cast intake and so on. i would run in a nss shootout. p.s on my 10.5's

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 02:37 AM

Unless this is wrong,this seems to be the fastest NSS time to date.I may be wrong since I'm an ol'fart and this is from a very old article.

http://www.moparmax.com/events/2010/v_10-monstermopar-3.html

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 02:47 AM

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Unless this is wrong,this seems to be the fastest NSS time to date.I may be wrong since I'm an ol'fart and this is from a very old article.

http://www.moparmax.com/events/2010/v_10-monstermopar-3.html

From what Casey said Sanders and Habura with Keeping The Faith car both went 8.49....

Posted By: Get-X

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 02:56 AM

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where lol.

It's like Ragu, it's in there!!

Posted By: ro23car

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 02:56 AM

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Unless this is wrong,this seems to be the fastest NSS time to date.I may be wrong since I'm an ol'fart and this is from a very old article.

http://www.moparmax.com/events/2010/v_10-monstermopar-3.html

From what Casey said Sanders and Habura with Keeping The Faith car both went 8.49....

i dont believe sander has a 10.5 altough i maybe wrong.

Posted By: actionange

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 03:13 AM

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where lol.

It's like Ragu, it's in there!!

That wasn't Ragu
IT WAS PREGO!

Posted By: n20mstr

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 03:24 AM

STOP! ! ! ! !

STOP ! ! ! !

DID i READ CORRECTLY??????

A SS/AH car is a NSS ???

Well then i know for sure who THE fastest is....

Clinton has been SUB 8.50's

and its a 69 dart so....

There you go...THE FASTEST NSS CAR

Posted By: ro23car

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 03:25 AM

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where lol.

It's like Ragu, it's in there!!

lol merry xmas to you and your family mark.

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 03:30 AM

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STOP! ! ! ! !

STOP ! ! ! !

DID i READ CORRECTLY??????

A SS/AH car is a NSS ???

Well then i know for sure who THE fastest is....

Clinton has been SUB 8.50's and its a 69 dart so....

There you go...THE FASTEST NSS CAR

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Hoooooooo your the man TONY!!!! Oh Tony by the way SS/AH cars are 68 Darts and Cudas....

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Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 03:30 AM

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where lol.

It's like Ragu, it's in there!!

lol merry xmas to you and your family mark.

Same to you Bill! Hope you and yours have a great holiday

Posted By: ro23car

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 03:34 AM

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STOP! ! ! ! !

STOP ! ! ! !

DID i READ CORRECTLY??????

A SS/AH car is a NSS ???

Well then i know for sure who THE fastest is....

Clinton has been SUB 8.50's and its a 69 dart so....

There you go...THE FASTEST NSS CAR

im thinking you didnt have your reading glasses on

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 03:37 AM

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STOP! ! ! ! !

STOP ! ! ! !

DID i READ CORRECTLY??????

A SS/AH car is a NSS ???

Well then i know for sure who THE fastest is....

Clinton has been SUB 8.50's and its a 69 dart so....

There you go...THE FASTEST NSS CAR

im thinking you didnt have your reading glasses on

Bill its more like he is

!!!!!!

Posted By: n20mstr

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 03:41 AM

we can make clitnons car into a 68 with a new grille.....

Posted By: MIKECS

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 04:11 AM

For the record I would love to run SSR's Black Car.

SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!!!!

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Posted By: poppaj

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 04:13 AM

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Unless this is wrong,this seems to be the fastest NSS time to date.I may be wrong since I'm an ol'fart and this is from a very old article.

http://www.moparmax.com/events/2010/v_10-monstermopar-3.html

From what Casey said Sanders and Habura with Keeping The Faith car both went 8.49....

i dont believe sander has a 10.5 altough i maybe wrong.

Yes Sanders cuda runs 10.5x33.5's We pit together, Casey drives the car some for him, it is a super nice race car.
Gary J is going to slap some 10.5's on his AH car, no trans brake or air shifter it's 100% legal.

Clinton would have to hack off that areo scoop and put on a hemi scoop, I would bet there is at least one dominator on there probily two, they got to go to. Probily all aluminum interior- no good...probily just one bucket seat- no good, add another, add carpet, put the original dash back in. No one piece frontends,no rack and pinion, no aluminum firewall, add inner fenders. Put all that weight back in then bring it, probily will run more like 9.50

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Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 04:19 AM

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For the record I would love to run SSR's Black Car.

SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!!!!

Now we're talking.... Josh set it up kid lets gooooo....

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 04:22 AM

I think I have to start a new thread " WHO HAS THE FASTEST 63-65 B BODY MOPAR"

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 04:27 AM

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Unless this is wrong,this seems to be the fastest NSS time to date.I may be wrong since I'm an ol'fart and this is from a very old article.

http://www.moparmax.com/events/2010/v_10-monstermopar-3.html

From what Casey said Sanders and Habura with Keeping The Faith car both went 8.49....

i dont believe sander has a 10.5 altough i maybe wrong.

Yes Sanders cuda runs 10.5x33.5's We pit together, Casey drives the car some for him, it is a super nice race car.
Gary J is going to slap some 10.5's on his AH car, no trans brake or air shifter it's 100% legal.

Clinton would have to hack off that areo scoop and put on a hemi scoop, I would bet there is at least one dominator on there probily two, they got to go to. Probily all aluminum interior- no good...probily just one bucket seat- no good, add another, add carpet, put the original dash back in. No one piece frontends,no rack and pinion, no aluminum firewall, add inner fenders. Put all that weight back in then bring it, probily will run more like 9.50

To be totally honest if the SS/AH cars do race in the FX class and they get there cars to hook we are all in trouble.. None of us stand a chance.. Those guys are in a league of there own.... LOL

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 04:30 AM

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For the record I would love to run SSR's Black Car.

SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!!!!

Now we're talking.... Josh set it up kid lets gooooo....

I'll take some of that action,but I'll pass on the brats and stick to MY skirt steaks with Canole's for desert.Is there an exibition class for my slow azz blower car???

I'd like to make a pull out that way this summer

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 04:34 AM

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For the record I would love to run SSR's Black Car.

SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!!!!

Now we're talking.... Josh set it up kid lets gooooo....

I'll take some of that action,but I'll pass on the brats and stick to MY skirt steaks with Canole's for desert.Is there an exibition class for my slow azz blower car??? I'd like to make a pull out that way this summer

Just make sure you put that car on the tow truck because you will need a gas truck following you there...

Did someone say cannoli's? Winner of the show down gets a dozen of Carlo's Barkey Cannoli's "AKA Cake Boss"....

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 04:39 AM

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For the record I would love to run SSR's Black Car.

SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!!!!

Mike what power plant you have under the hood of that car? Also what intake? Do you still have the sheetmetal crossram like I have?

Posted By: poppaj

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 04:45 AM

True AH car 9500-10,000 rpm shifts should be fun to watch...MIKE CS car less than 500cu.in. BAD TO THE BONE...

Posted By: dvw

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 04:49 AM

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I bought my 1963 plymouth Belvedere new in 64. It is a stage III 426 aluminum car with all aluminum frontend with trunk mounted battery. It came with the new improved 518 stage III heads.I believe the fastest I went with it was 12.27 on a set of drag 500 slicks out back on SS springs.
I still race it to this day, only modifications I made were a set of Cal-tracs and hooker headers bumped up the compression and a roller cam for some more power,Dvorack prepped my heads years ago and we were able to go low 11's. 11.08
I still enjoy the NSS racing and love how these cars are still racing strong after all these years.

How about a picture! I'd love to see that car! They're is a guy that races with us once and a while at Cordova Ill. that has a 64 hemi aluminum Dodge that he bought I heard in 65,it's red and silver and it still has all the old lettering on it from back then and the aluminum is getting ratty here and there but its a real car and he's having fun with it, it's really neat to look at. I can't remember his name at the moment.
Russ

Yes I have a few pictures of the car now as it sits.My brother also has a 64 Aluminum Savoy. We both got them in White with Red interiors.
We still retain the factory lapbelts and pushbutton on the dash board.
I did however break the ball & trunion years ago and I put in a 65 slip yoke transmission.

The 64 Dodge is "Branded" owned by Frank Zalud. It's a beater,but it's a real aluminum car he bought for $1600 in 65. I made one pass in it many years ago. Hes a super nice guy.
Doug

Posted By: MIKECS

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 04:51 AM

HERE YOU GO.

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Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 04:53 AM

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I bought my 1963 plymouth Belvedere new in 64. It is a stage III 426 aluminum car with all aluminum frontend with trunk mounted battery. It came with the new improved 518 stage III heads.I believe the fastest I went with it was 12.27 on a set of drag 500 slicks out back on SS springs.
I still race it to this day, only modifications I made were a set of Cal-tracs and hooker headers bumped up the compression and a roller cam for some more power,Dvorack prepped my heads years ago and we were able to go low 11's. 11.08
I still enjoy the NSS racing and love how these cars are still racing strong after all these years.

How about a picture! I'd love to see that car! They're is a guy that races with us once and a while at Cordova Ill. that has a 64 hemi aluminum Dodge that he bought I heard in 65,it's red and silver and it still has all the old lettering on it from back then and the aluminum is getting ratty here and there but its a real car and he's having fun with it, it's really neat to look at. I can't remember his name at the moment.
Russ

Yes I have a few pictures of the car now as it sits.My brother also has a 64 Aluminum Savoy. We both got them in White with Red interiors.
We still retain the factory lapbelts and pushbutton on the dash board.
I did however break the ball & trunion years ago and I put in a 65 slip yoke transmission.

The 64 Dodge is "Branded" owned by Frank Zalud. It's a beater,but it's a real aluminum car he bought for $1600 in 65. I made one pass in it many years ago. Hes a super nice guy.
Doug

Doug hes more like a Super Lucky Guy as well....

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 04:55 AM

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HERE YOU GO.

Mike that intake is the same intake that the SS/AH guys run now am I correct? The carbs are offest like 1" if that?

Posted By: MIKECS

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 05:43 AM

YES IT IS THE SAME INTAKE.

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 05:51 AM

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YES IT IS THE SAME INTAKE.

And those carbs are only 780's?????????????????How do you get the car to fly with those baby carbs??????????????

AMAZING

Posted By: ro23car

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 02:01 PM

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YES IT IS THE SAME INTAKE.

And those carbs are only 780's?????????????????How do you get the car to fly with those baby carbs??????????????

AMAZING

kevin dundas has the 780's on his 64 and goes fast,i think ross hutchins has the same on his 67. im going to try them on mine this season.

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 03:02 PM

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YES IT IS THE SAME INTAKE.

And those carbs are only 780's?????????????????How do you get the car to fly with those baby carbs??????????????

AMAZING

kevin dundas has the 780's on his 64 and goes fast,i think ross hutchins has the same on his 67. im going to try them on mine this season.

I have mine brand new in the boxes I had them looked over when I got them to make sure it was enough fuel for the motor and it is amazing how all the SS/AH guys have to run them and they can not be modified.. I recall I beleive it was in 2006 I walked over and saw Bucky and we were speaking he had one a race a few weeks before and teck tore his car down and they took away his win because he had changed the screws on the butterflies... Thats how tight the ruless are...

Posted By: actionange

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 03:34 PM

Just for information sake:
68 (SS/AH) Race hemis use 770 vaccuum secondary carbs.
And as noted the rules are tightly enforced.

Posted By: joshking440

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 06:30 PM

From what Casey said Sanders and Habura with Keeping The Faith car both went 8.49....

i dont believe sander has a 10.5 altough i maybe wrong.

wooaahhhhhh there Lone Ranger.........

Clintons car is a street car.....if he added the sheetmetal intake and 2 carters/edelbrock carbs he would be just fine......and I know he has all the other above equipment..... His Hemi Scoop is on the wall like a piece of art.

I would be careful..... that car is no joke!!!

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 07:04 PM

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From what Casey said Sanders and Habura with Keeping The Faith car both went 8.49....

i dont believe sander has a 10.5 altough i maybe wrong.

Clintons car is bad azz... I seen it in action plus he has a Best Machine Bullet that used to be in the Black Dodge... He puts a sheet metal intake with 2 carbs I bet he will pick up 60hp....

So Josh we doing a NSS grudge race or what at Indy?

Posted By: Whompin_Wedge

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 09:46 PM

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From what Casey said Sanders and Habura with Keeping The Faith car both went 8.49....

i dont believe sander has a 10.5 altough i maybe wrong.

First off Tony, no hard feelings here man. Your car is awesome, hands down the best leaving car on this board. Id like to see you run ole Chris in that black dodge, I think you might have to give him a head start though haha

Clintons car sure does run but I dont think it would ever fit NSS. Doesnt he run a dry sump too?

Josh, Im down to run Chris at whichever race you have. Like the ole man already said an AH car could run no problem and we would all be screwed if they hooked up and ran haha.

Like I already said lets bring all the fast guys out, put them in a race and see who comes out on top...

Casey

Posted By: n20mstr

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 10:00 PM

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From what Casey said Sanders and Habura with Keeping The Faith car both went 8.49....

i dont believe sander has a 10.5 altough i maybe wrong.

Yes Sanders cuda runs 10.5x33.5's We pit together, Casey drives the car some for him, it is a super nice race car.
Gary J is going to slap some 10.5's on his AH car, no trans brake or air shifter it's 100% legal.

Clinton would have to hack off that areo scoop and put on a hemi scoop, I would bet there is at least one dominator on there probily two, they got to go to. Probily all aluminum interior- no good...probily just one bucket seat- no good, add another, add carpet, put the original dash back in. No one piece frontends,no rack and pinion, no aluminum firewall, add inner fenders. Put all that weight back in then bring it, probily will run more like 9.50

Casey i could not agree more with you...i have a funny sense of humor and sometimes rub people the wrong way...lol
Anyway the above is what im talking about.
all we got to do now is get SSR to leave NY/NJ, well i hear he been in pa, but he needs to cross that Ohio border...OR you need to do the same?? .....can you say "clash of the Titans" ???

Posted By: dannysbee

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 10:05 PM

That's in Houston. Yu Gyse goin to Texas?

www.clashofthetitans.com

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/15/11 11:31 PM

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That's in Houston. Yu Gyse goin to Texas? www.clashofthetitans.com

DannysBee,do you even race?

Or are you a spectator?Curious minds want to know?

Posted By: dannysbee

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/16/11 12:30 AM

Having a little fun right now it's winter.

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/16/11 03:13 AM

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That's in Houston. Yu Gyse goin to Texas? www.clashofthetitans.com

DannysBee,do you even race?
Or are you a spectator?Curious minds want to know?

Sounds like another SSR alias

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/16/11 05:00 AM

Well Josh what do you have in mind for the NSS class at Indy? Or do you plan on doing an East Coast Race then there wont be any excuses for some people to show up...

Posted By: joshking440

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/16/11 06:24 PM

Nostalgia Super Stock
National Association
Mission
The mission of the Nostalgia Super Stock National Association is to be a national rule-making, administrative, sanctioning and educational authority which protects and preserves the traditional form of Nostalgia Super Stock drag racing.
In addition, the NSSNA seeks to provide a stable format in which to facilitate and organize the construction and/or modification of historically accurate NSS vehicles and support all the events in which these vehicles compete.
However, the NSSNA is not to be involved with the financial promotion and support of any specific event or race other than its own national event, the Dave Duell Classic Nostalgia Super Stock Nationals.
Fundamental Principles
In order to accurately preserve the history of traditional Super Stock racing to the best extent possible, the following general principles are considered to be permanent, non-negotiable and are to be supported by the specific rules at all times.

Historical accuracy � American manufactured/factory created/supported makes/models for drag racing competition
Multiple carburetion preferred
Cast intake manifold required, if available
Maximum rear slick width designation 10.5W
Footbrake only � no transmission brake allowed
No electronic elapsed-time bracket racing aids allowed
Class/index designations required � no elapsed-time bracket racing dial-ins allowed
Eliminator Description

As administered by the NSSNA, Nostalgia Super Stock is an index-style footbrake only eliminator for the year models, body styles, and engine combinations which accurately represent those American-built cars that raced in the Factory Experimental and Super Stock classes of the early and mid-1960s.
Some exceptions in the authenticity of these cars will be allowed only at the discretion of the NSSNA. Among those exceptions, but not limited to, are factors concerning safety, equality in performance, availability, and durability.
Classification will be based upon a visual inspection and an elapsed time range. No modifications which alter the car from factory stock are permitted unless they are specifically allowed in these rules. Sandbagging, excessive braking near the finish line or excessive mph for a given elapsed time are all subject to possible disqualification.
Nostalgia Super Stock is an all-run field and will compete on a National Hot Rod Association sportsman-type ladder. The eliminator will qualify by elapsed time closest to class index, be paired according to qualifying positions, and then advance to eliminations. All participants in Nostalgia Super Stock must have a valid elapsed time recorded to be placed into eliminator competition.

Communications
The NSSNA maintains a communications office to dialog with racers, race track owners/promoters, other racing organizations, and the public concerning policies, rules and procedures and other concerns.
The office uses Evansville Volvo Kia Mazda as its official Internet web site and creates and maintains such documents and records sufficient to accomplish its mission.
The office shall at various times publish rules and race procedures, subject to revision as determined by the NSSNA. Questions or other communications should be directed to:
Doug Duell, Evansville Volvo Kia Mazda, 4000 Division St., Evansville, Indiana 47715, (812) 760-7223, [Email]doug@evansvillekia.com;[/Email] Bob Wilkiewicz, Still Rock Engineering, 1614 White Rock Av., Waukesha, Wisconsin 53186, (262) 547-0308, stillrock69@hotmail.com
Agreement to Waive Rule(s) Prohibited
Any individual participant, any sponsor, any ad hoc group of participants and all participants as a group shall not agree to exclude application of any rule or to waive any penalty incurred or to compete in any other manner than established by the rules committee in the event format.
Appeal/Waiver Process
Any racer shall have the right to appeal a decision of the NSSNA by submitting a written application to the rules committee within 30 days of the initial determination, defining the reasoning by which the initial determination should be changed.
The NSSNA rules committee reserves the right to issue appropriate waivers at its sole discretion.

NOSTALGIA SUPER STOCKELIMINATOR REQUIREMENTS
CLASS/INDEX DESIGNATIONS
Quarter-mile
AAAA/FX 8.50 index; AAA/FX 8.75; AA/FX 9.00; A/FX 9.25; B/FX 9.50; C/FX 9.75; NSS/A 10.00; NSS/B 10.50; NSS/C 11.00; NSS/D 11.50; NSS/E 12.00; NSS/F 12.50 and NSS/G 13.00
Eighth-mile
AAA/FX 5.60; AA/FX 5.75; A/FX 5.90; B/FX 6.05; C/FX 6.20; NSS/A 6.35; NSS/B 6.65; NSS/C 7.00; NSS/D 7.30; NSS/E 7.60; NSS/F 7.95; NSS/G 8.25
QUALIFYING INFORMATION, LADDER TYPE, & �TREE
All Run, NHRA Sportsman Ladder, .500 Full �Tree, Handicap Start

ELIGIBLE YEAR MODELS AND BODY STYLES
The following is a list of cars/engines which are allowed to compete in Nostalgia Super Stock Eliminator:

� AMC AMX: 1968 � 1969; 390
� Chevrolet Full Bodied: 1959-64;348 & 409s, Z11 427
� Chevrolet Full Bodied: 1965-67;396-454
� Chevrolet Chevelle: 1964 � 1967; 396-454
� Pontiac Full Bodied: 1959-67;389-455
� Tempest/GTO: 1961-67;389-455
� Ford Full Bodied: 1959-67;390-427
� Ford Thunderbolt: 1964;427
� Fairlane/Comet/Cyclone/Falcon: 1963-67;427
� Dodge/Plymouth Full Bodied: 1960-67;383-440 wedge
� Dodge/Plymouth Full Bodied: 1964-67;Hemi
� Buick Full Bodied: 1960-67;401-455
� Skylark GS: 1964-67;400-401-455
� Oldsmobile Full Bodied: 1960-67;394-400-455
� Cutlass/442: 1964-67;400-455
� Dart/Barracuda: 1967-69;383-440
� Dart/Barracuda: 1968;426 Hemi

AllClasses/Indexes
All NSS Eliminator participants must declare and post the NSS or FX class (index) of choice at the time of technical inspection on the track�s official tech card and with the NSS race director. No change of driver is permitted after technical inspection, except at the sole discretion of the rules committee.
Each participant shall have the option to change class (index) prior to the first scheduled qualifying run for class runoffs or eliminator competition but must immediately notify both the track�s official scorer and the NSS race director of the change. All participants must display the chosen class (index) on the vehicle before entering the staging lanes for that qualifying run. No change of class is permitted after the first scheduled qualifying round.
Any participant who has qualified but for any reason is in doubt of being able to perform or cannot perform in class runoffs and/or eliminations must notify the NSS race director no later than one hour before any scheduled round of class runoffs or eliminations. If a driver and/or a vehicle are unable to perform after entering the staging lanes, the scheduled opponent shall receive a competition single run.
Open/Closed Events
The NSSNA rules and race procedures are intended to be the national standard used in open competition, defined as any event at any sanctioned track at which any racer is eligible to compete upon payment of the entry fee and found to be in compliance with NSSNA rules upon completing a technical inspection.
However, the NSSNA recognizes that other clubs, associations, etc. may organize closed and/or special events such as match racing, exhibitions and the like for their own purposes and implement their own rules and race procedures for those kinds of activities.
For the sake of clarity and consistency, these groups are encouraged to use NSSNA rules and procedures whenever possible.

Engineering/Technical Requirements
1: ENGINE
1.1 COOLING SYSTEM
RADIATOR: OEM production-style or aftermarket radiator is required and must be mounted in stock location. Stock core support is required.
WATER PUMP: Any aftermarket (belt drive or electric drive) pump permitted.
COOLING FANS: Any permitted.
1.2 ENGINE
ENGINE: See ELIGIBLE YEAR MODELS AND BODY STYLES. Any internal engine modifications permitted.

1.3 EXHAUST
EXHAUST: All entries allowed to use tubular headers. Adapter plates permitted to bolt headers to cylinder head. Exhaust must be directed out of car body, away from driver and fuel tank.
1.3A) HEADERS & COLLECTORS: Any headers and/or collectors permitted.

1.3B) EXHAUST TUBING/SIZE: Any tubing size permitted.

1.3C) TAILPIPE & EXHAUST RULES: Not required.

1.3D) MUFFLER REQUIREMENTS: Not required.

1.5 FUEL DELIVERY SYSTEM
DELIVERY SYSTEM: Fuel cells, electric or mechanical fuel pumps, pressure regulators, and any line size permitted. Fuel pump must shut off with a master electrical switch. Stock gas tank (if used) must be retained in factory location. Modified fuel pickups & outlet permitted. Aftermarket/fabricated fuel tank or cell permitted; in NSS classes must be located in trunk area; in F/X classes, installation in era-correct front location permitted. If tank or fuel filler is inside trunk, a bulkhead of minimum .032� aluminum or .024� steel must be used between trunk and driver compartment, and tank must be vented to outside of car. When used, fuel cells must have a metal box protecting the part of the fuel cell that is outside the trunk floor. Non-metallic fuel cells or tanks must be grounded to frame. (Reference: National Hot Rod Association General Regulations Section 1.5.)

1.6 GASOLINE
GASOLINE: In the NSS classes, common and commercially available racing gasoline, pump gasoline and E85 are the exclusive (only) fuels or blend of fuels permitted. Under no circumstances can the maximum volume of alcohol exceed 85 percent.
1.8 ALCOHOL
ALCOHOL: Permitted in the FX classes.

1.9 NITROUS OXIDE
NITROUS OXIDE: Prohibited.

1.10 OIL SYSTEM
OILING SYSTEM: Dry-sumps prohibited. Oil pump must remain in stock location. Oil pan capacity may be increased.
1.12 SUPERCHARGER
SUPERCHARGER: Prohibited.
1.15 BLOCK
BLOCK: Aftermarket blocks may be either cast iron or aluminum if they appear externally to be the same as was originally available on the year/make/model of entry.

1.16 ENGINE LOCATION / MOUNTS
ENGINE LOCATION/MOUNTS (NSS CLASSES): Block and/or heads must not touch stock firewall. Firewall must be in stock location. Engine plates and solid engine mounts permitted.

ENGINE LOCATION/MOUNTS (F/X CLASSES): Engine plates and solid engine mounts permitted.
Engine may be set back as far as necessary with this limitation: The centerline of the number-one spark-plug hole may not go further back than the base of the windshield. Sidewinder engine placement prohibited. (Reference: Firewalls, section 7.5)
1.17 HEADS
HEADS: Aftermarket cylinder heads permitted. Cylinder heads may be cast iron or aluminum if they appear externally to be the same as was originally available on the year/make/model of entry. Any internal cylinder head modifications permitted.
1.18 VALVETRAIN
VALVETRAIN: Any valvetrain permitted.

1.19 CARBURETOR
Multiple Carburetion Preferred
Racers with current (2008) legal National Muscle Car Association and Dave Duell Classic single 4-bbl carburetor/intake manifold/vehicle combinations are encouraged to change to multiple carburetion. Racers with combinations currently under construction are also encouraged to use multiple carburetion.
CARBURETOR (NSS CLASSES): All entries in the eliminator must be carbureted as outlined below. Carburetors must be of type and design as originally produced for a specific vehicle. Positioning of carburetors from factory mounting not a tech item (carburetors may be positioned facing forwards, backwards, or side mounted). Choke plate, choke shaft, choke linkage, and choke mechanism may be removed; choke horn removal permitted. The following carburetor combinations are allowed, regardless of year/make/model of entry:
�Buick 400-455;Single Carter AFB, Edelbrock Performer or Q-Jet; inline 2x4 with Carter AFBs or Edelbrock Performers.
�Chevy 396-454; Single 4bbl with Rochester, Carter AFB, Edelbrock Performer or Holley; Inline 2x4 with Carter AFBs, Edelbrock Performers or Holleys, Inline 3x2 Holleys.
�Chevy 396-454:(F/X only); Single 4bbl with Rochester, Carter AFB, Edelbrock Performer or Holley
�Chevy 348-409;Inline 2x4, inline 3x2 with Rochesters or single 4bbl with Carters, AFBs, Edelbrock Performers or Rochesters.
�Chrysler Hemi; Inline 2x4 or single 4bbl intake with Carters, AFBs, Edelbrock Performers, Holleys; or cross-ram 2x4 intake with Holleys.
�Chrysler Wedge; Inline or cross-ram 2x4 or single 4bbl intake with Carters, AFBs, or Edelbrock Performers.
�Ford; Inline 2x4 intakes, inline 3x2, or single 4bbl with Holleys.
�Pontiac; Inline 2x4 intakes or single 4bbl with Carters, AFBs, or Edelbrock Performers; or inline 3x2 with Rochesters.
�AMX 390: Single Carter AFB or Edelbrock Performer; Cross ram 2x4 bbl intakes with Holleys.
�Olds 400-455; 1x4 Q-Jet, inline with 3x2 Rochesters.

CARBURETOR (F/X CLASSES): Vehicles in these classes permitted the use of carburetors listed for NSS, or Holley up to 850 cfm in size (no Dominators). Aerosol carburetor(s) prohibited.

1.20 FUEL INJECTION
FUEL INJECTION: Era-correct mechanical fuel injection permitted in F/X classes only.

1.21 INTAKE MANIFOLD
INTAKE MANIFOLD: In general, common commercial market cast units are preferred and required if available. Sheet metal units allowed only in AAA, AA and A/FX classes and only after inspection by the rules committee. Top of manifold lid may be modified and fabricated as necessary to accommodate carburetor placement
1.22 SOLENOIDS

SOLENOIDS: Prohibited.

1.23 TURBOCHARGER

TURBOCHARGER: Prohibited.

1.24 AFTERCOOLER/INTERCOOLER

AFTERCOOLERS/INTERCOOLER: Prohibited.

2: DRIVETRAIN
2.3 CLUTCH

CLUTCH: Clutch operation must be manually applied and disengaged with foot during run, without the assist of electric, hydraulic or pneumatic devices. Multi stage, variable release, or lock up type of any description is prohibited. Throwout bearing must release all fingers or levers simultaneously.

2.4 DRIVESHAFT

DRIVESHAFT: Any permitted.

2.11 REAREND

REAREND: Any automotive type rearend permitted.

2.12 MANUAL TRANSMISSIONS
MANUAL TRANSMISSION (ALL CLASSES): All shifts must be made manually without the aid of electric, hydraulic or pneumatic devices. Starting line rev limiters permitted. Torque converter not permitted with this type transmission. All planetary transmissions, including �Lenco� or �Lenco�-type, or any combination thereof are prohibited.

MANUAL TRANSMISSION (NSS classes): OEM or aftermarket transmissions with a maximum of 4 forward speeds permitted.
MANUAL TRANSMISSION (F/X classes): OEM or aftermarket transmissions with a maximum of 5 forward speeds or clutchless transmissions permitted in AAA, AA and A/FX classes only.

2.14 AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSIONS

(OEM American transmissions or replicas of OEM American transmissions that use planetary gears)

AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSIONS: Automatic transmissions originally produced by any American automobile manufacturer or replicas of an automatic transmission produced by any American automobile manufacture (Example: Deadenbear PG transmission) mandatory.
Lock-up transmissions/torque converters permitted. Transmission-to-engine adapters permitted. All shifts must be made manually without the aid of electric or pneumatic devices.
TRANSMISSION BRAKE PROHIBITED: The following will be used to enforce the rule; a competitor may elect to leave the transbrake solenoid installed in the transmission, however any/all physical wiring must be removed to the solenoid while the vehicle is in competition.

Starting line rev limiters prohibited. Clutch prohibited with this type of transmission.

3: BRAKES & SUSPENSION

3.1 BRAKES

BRAKES: The braking system may be upgraded. All cars must have front and rear hydraulic brakes. Automated brakes or any type of traction control is prohibited. Application and release of brakes must be a function of the driver�s foot. Line loc permitted on front wheels only. Any other electric, pneumatic, or hydraulic device in the system is prohibited.

3.2 SHOCK ABSORBERS

Shock absorbers: each vehicle in competition must be equipped with one operative shock absorber for each sprung wheel. Shock absorbers may be either hydraulic or friction type, securely mounted and in good working order.

3.3 STEERING

STEERING: (NSS CLASSES) OEM steering mandatory.

STEERING: (F/X CLASSES) OEM or aftermarket steering in stock location mandatory.

3.4 SUSPENSION

FRONT SUSPENSION (NSS classes): Stock front suspension required. Aftermarket direct replacement suspension components including tubular A-arms permitted.

FRONT SUSPENSION (F/X classes): Era-correct front suspension (example; straight front axle) permitted. Aftermarket direct replacement suspension components including tubular A-arms permitted.

REAR SUSPENSION (All classes): Rear suspension of ladder bar, three/four link, or stock rear suspensions permitted.

3.6 WHEELIE BARS
WHEELIE BARS: Wheelie bars permitted in F/X classes and NSS/A.
4: FRAME
4.4 FRAME

FRAME (NSS CLASSES): Stock frame required but may be strengthened with the addition of braces and �notched� or moved inboard for rear-tire and wheel tub clearance.

FRAME (F/X CLASSES): Frame alteration permitted; tube chassis prohibited.
FRAME (ALL CLASSES): Frame modification/alteration �kits� and/or all material used for fabrication must be equal to or greater in strength than the stock material.

4.5 GROUND CLEARANCE

GROUND CLEARANCE: Minimum 3 inches from front of vehicle to 12 inches behind centerline of front axle; 2 inches for remainder of vehicle, except oil pan and exhaust headers.

4.12 WHEELBASE
WHEELBASE (NSS CLASSES): Must retain stock wheelbase with a maximum variation from left to right and front to back of 1 inch. Stock overhangs are required.
WHEELBASE (FX CLASSES): Any period-style alteration of wheelbase and overhang is allowed.

5: TIRES & WHEELS
5.1 TIRES
TIRES (F/X CLASSES, NSS/A, NSS/B): Street type or drag slick tires permitted. Maximum rear tire designation of 10.5Wx33-inch permitted. The front tires are limited to 4.5-inch minimum tread width and a minimum overall diameter of 26 inches. The tread of the tires is not allowed to protrude outside the exterior bodyline at the top of the tire.

TIRES (ALL OTHER NSS CLASSES): Street type or drag slick tires permitted. Maximum rear tire designation of 10.5Wx31-inch permitted. The front tires are limited to 4.5-inch minimum tread width and a minimum overall diameter of 26 inches. Tire tread may not extend outside fenders.

5.2 WHEELS
WHEELS: Spindle-mount front wheels prohibited.
6: INTERIOR
6.1 INTERIOR

INTERIOR (NSS CLASSES): Must have full factory seating, upholstery, and carpeting. Aftermarket upholstered bucket seats permitted, two required. Full dashboard mandatory. Aftermarket gauges permitted. Rear seat may be removed when roll bar/cage is installed. Area must be carpeted or upholstered equivalent to factory specifications (no bare paneling).

INTERIOR (F/X CLASSES): Full removal of interior allowed.
7: BODY
NSS CLASSES: Topless cars prohibited. Lightweight replacement parts permitted for fenders, hood, doors, deck lid, and bumpers. External modification of any body panel that will alter the stock bodyline is prohibited. The body must be finished & painted.
FX CLASSES: Topless cars prohibited. Lightweight replacement parts permitted for fenders, hood, doors, deck lid, and bumpers. External modification of any body panel that will alter the stock bodyline is prohibited. Hoods are optional. The body must be finished & painted.

7.1 ADVERTISING

GRAPHICS/LETTERING: Graphics/lettering for advertising or creative purposes permitted on entire body.

7.2 SPOILERS, WINGS
SPOILERS, WINGS: Aftermarket wings and/or spoilers prohibited.
7.5 FIREWALLS
FIREWALLS: Stock firewall in stock location mandatory. Firewall may be relocated rearward, era-correct modifications permitted in FX classes. (Reference: Engine location/mounts, section 1.16)

7.6 FLOOR/TRUNK PAN
FLOOR/TRUNK PAN: Complete floor in stock location mandatory. Floor/Trunk Pan modifications permitted for clearance purposes of ladder bars, mufflers, and fuel cell. Material to be used if there are floor/truck pan modification is limited to same type material and same or greater thickness as original floor/trunk pan.

7.7 HOOD/SCOOP
HOOD/SCOOP (NSS CLASSES): Hoodscoops limited to OEM equipment or period style. Hood/scoop may be no higher than 5 inches. Pro Stock style scoops prohibited. The entire induction system must be completely covered by hood or scoop, which must be part of the vehicle hood.

HOOD/SCOOP (F/X CLASSES): Not required.
7.9 WINDSHIELDS/WINDOWS

WINDSHIELD/WINDOWS: Must be OEM safety glass or NHRA/International Hot Rod Association approved Lexan or Plexiglas.

7.10 BUMPERS
BUMPERS: Complete stock-appearing bumpers required.

7.11 FENDER SPLASH PANS
FENDER SPLASH PANS (NSS CLASSES): OEM or aftermarket full-fender splash pans required. Splash pans may be trimmed to allow clearance for headers. Removable fender splash pans acceptable.

FENDER SPLASH PANS (F/X CLASSES): Not required.

7.12 GRILLE
GRILLE: A full-production grille is required for the body style used, era-correct modifications permitted. Covering in front of or behind the grille prohibited.
7.13 WHEELWELLS
INNER WHEELWELLS: Aftermarket wheel tubs permitted. Material used to add to the width of the inner wheelwell may be steel or aluminum.
OUTER FENDERS: Leading and trailing edges of fenders may be trimmed for tire clearance, maximum 2 inches.

7.14 RAM AIR
RAM AIR: Any aftermarket or fabricated ram-air unit permitted that is not visible from exterior of vehicle.

7.15 DOORS
DOORS: OEM or aftermarket doors permitted. Driver and passenger doors must be functional and operable from inside and outside of vehicle.

8: ELECTRICAL
8.1 BATTERY
BATTERY: Battery may be relocated. Charging system optional.

8.3 IGNITION
IGNITION: Battery powered ignition system permitted as specified in this section. Aftermarket electronic breakerless distributor systems permitted. MSD 7AL series and/or digital-type also permitted, however, any use as a traction control device prohibited. Engine rev limiters, top end only, and/or starting line with manual transmission only, permitted.
8.5 STARTER
STARTER: All entries must be self-starting with on-board starter.

9: SUPPORT GROUPS
All bracket racing aids such as optical sensors, delay boxes, stutter boxes, two-steps, three-steps, throttle stops and traction control prohibited. The application or use of any device, mechanical or electronic, which permits the driver to ascertain the position of the vehicle in relation to the starting line is prohibited.

9.2 ONBOARD DIAGNOSTICS/DATA RECORDERS

ONBOARD DIAGNOSTICS/DATA RECORDERS: Onboard diagnostics and data recorders used to monitor and record parameters such as a driveshaft speed, acceleration, nitrous timing, chassis strain, suspension travel etc., prohibited. Wide band oxygen sensors permitted. Playback tachometers permitted. Laptops prohibited in vehicle.

9.8 TOW VEHICLES
TOW VEHICLES: Vehicles may not be towed in or to staging lanes. Vehicles may not be towed from the return road.

10: DRIVER
10.4 CREDENTIALS
CREDENTIALS: See NHRA/IHRA general regulations.

11: CLASS & SAFETY REQUIREMENTS
It is the participant�s responsibility to know the eliminator and class requirements as found in the current NSSNA rulebook and the safety requirements as found in the current NHRA/IHRA rulebooks.
The participant agrees that the participant bears the ultimate responsibility at all times to ensure the safety of participant�s vehicle and to ensure that participant complies with all applicable NSSNA, NHRA & IHRA rules. The participant agrees that participant is in the best position to know about the construction and operation of participant�s vehicle, equipment, and clothing, and whether or not there has been compliance with all applicable NSSNA, NHRA & IHRA rules.

12: STREET-LEGAL REQUIREMENTS
Headlights and tail lights for year & make of body used mandatory; era-correct headlight modifications permitted. Single taillight required to be functional.

13: WEIGHT
WEIGHT: Weight is not a tech item, however, excessive lightening as determined by the tech officials will not be permitted.

SUMMARY
Using the 2008 NMCA rules as a model, the previous sections were written by a six-racer committee whose members have had extensive experience in Nostalgia Super Stock racing, including the national event series of the NMCA and Goodguys Associations, the regional event series of the Chrysler Classic events and also regional clubs and associations such as Nostalgia Super Stocks Inc. and the Texas Outsiders.
In addition, these rules and procedures reflect almost 20 years of both development and tradition in NSS racing. The committee is confident these guidelines will be able to competently administer NSS racing both now and into the future.
The original committee included Mark Artis of the Texas Outsiders, Doug Duell of the Dave Duell Classic, John Grinwald of Nostalgia Super Stocks Inc., Clay Kossuth of the Texas Outsiders, Jim Netherland of the NMCA series and Bob Wilkiewicz of Nostalgia Super Stocks Inc.
Original document adopted May 9, 2008
Revised May 30, 2008

NSSNA Rule Revisions

Nostalgia Super Stock
National Association

Revisions to the Rules
(all changes in bold italic)
1. In Eligible Car Models/Years �
Delete second reference to Chevelle: 1964 � 1967; 396-454
Reason: Unnecessary repetition. (May 30, 2008)
2. In Ignition, section 8.3 �

Change from:
IGNITION: Battery powered ignition system permitted as specified in this section. Aftermarket electronic breakerless distributor systems permitted. MSD 7AL series permitted, however, use as a traction control device prohibited. Engine rev limiters, top end only, and/or starting line with manual transmission only, permitted.

To:
IGNITION: Battery powered ignition system permitted as specified in this section. Aftermarket electronic breakerless distributor systems permitted. MSD 7AL series and/or digital-type also permitted, however, any use as a traction control device prohibited. Engine rev limiters, top end only, and/or starting line with manual transmission only, permitted.
Reason: The intent of prohibiting any traction control device is addressed in the Eliminator Description section generally prohibiting any change from stock unless specifically permitted and also in Support Groups section 9 but is also further specified in this section. (May 30, 2008)

3. In Carburetors, section 1.19 �
Add the word �Performer� after each reference to Edelbrock.
Reason: To clarify the intent to require AFB-style carburetors. (May 30, 2008)

4. In Firewalls, section 7.5 �
Change from:
7.5 FIREWALLS
FIREWALLS: Stock firewall in stock location mandatory. Firewall may be relocated rearward in FX classes. (Reference: Engine location/mounts, section 1.16)
To:
7.5 FIREWALLS
FIREWALLS: Stock firewall in stock location mandatory. Firewall may be relocated rearward, era-correct modifications permitted in F/X classes. (Reference: Engine location/mounts, section 1.16)
Reason: To clarify permitted changes to modified firewalls. (May 30, 2008)
5. In Grille, section 7.12 �
Change from:
GRILLE: A full-production grille is required for the body style used. Covering in front of or behind the grille prohibited.
To:
GRILLE: A full-production grille is required for the body style used; era-correct modifications permitted. Covering in front of or behind the grille prohibited.

Reason: To allow era-appropriate appearances. (May 30, 2008)
6. In Street-legal requirements, section 12 �
Change from:

Headlights and tail lights for year & make of body used mandatory. Single taillight required to be functional.

To:

Headlights and tail lights for year & make of body used mandatory; era-correct headlight modifications permitted. Single taillight required to be functional.

Reason: To allow era-appropriate appearances. (May 30, 2008)

7. In Frame, section 4.4 �
Change from:
FRAME (F/X CLASSES): Frame alteration permitted; full tube chassis prohibited
To:
FRAME (F/X CLASSES): Frame alteration permitted; tube chassis prohibited

Reason: To allow current and common re-construction practices. (May 30, 2008)
8. In Summary �
Change from:
The committee includes Mark Artis of the Texas Outsiders, Doug Duell of the Dave Duell Classic, John Grinwald of Nostalgia Super Stocks Inc., Clay Kossuth of the Texas Outsiders, Jim Netherland of the NMCA series and Bob Wilkiewicz of Nostalgia Super Stocks Inc.
To:
The original committee included Mark Artis of the Texas Outsiders, Doug Duell of the Dave Duell Classic, John Grinwald of Nostalgia Super Stocks Inc., Clay Kossuth of the Texas Outsiders, Jim Netherland of the NMCA series and Bob Wilkiewicz of Nostalgia Super Stocks Inc.

Reason: To account for the resignation of Mark Artis. (June 5, 2008)

9. In Manual Transmissions, section 2.12, third paragraph, MANUAL TRANSMISSIONS (ALL CLASSES) �

Add:

All planetary transmissions, including �Lenco� or �Lenco�-type, or any combination thereof are prohibited.

Reason: To further define intent and specifically prevent use. (Dec. 1,
2008)

10. In Purpose-Built Transmissions, section 2.13 �

Delete entire section:

PURPOSE BUILT TRANSMISSIONS. Prohibited.

Reason: To remove irrelevant language and provide consistency with actual
practice. (Dec. 1, 2008)

11. In Suspension, section 3.4, second sentence, FRONT SUSPENSION (NSS classes) and also FRONT SUSPENSION (F/X classes) �

Add:

The word�tubular� before the phrase �A-arms permitted.�

Reason: To allow current and common re-construction practices. (Dec. 1, 2008)

12. In Eligible Years/Models, after Tempest/GTO �
Change from:
1962-67
To:
1961-67
Reason: To expand participation and align with revision by NMCA. (Jan. 1, 2010)

13. In Carburetor, Section 1.19, after line one, �Buick 400-455� -
Add complete line:
Chevy 396, 454 (F/X only): Single 4bbl with Carter AFB, Edelbrock Performer or Rochester.
Reason: To clarify and align with revision by NMCA. (Jan. 1, 2010)

14. In Carburetor, Section 1.19, after AMX 390 -
Add:
Single Carter AFB or Edelbrock Performer;
Reason: To clarify and align with revision by NMCA. (Jan. 1, 2010)

15. In Carburetor, Section 1.19, Carburetor F/X class �
Add:
Aerosol carburetor(s) prohibited
Reason: To clarify and align with revision by NMCA. (Jan. 1, 2010)

16. In Class/Index Designations section �
Add: Eighth-mile Indexes;
AAA/FX - 5.60
AA/FX - 5.75
A/FX - 5.90
B/FX - 6.05
C/FX - 6.20
NSS/A - 6.35
NSS/B - 6.65
NSS/C - 7.00
NSS/D - 7.30
NSS/E - 7.60
NSS/F - 7.95
NSS/G - 8.25
Reason: To establish a national standard. (Jan. 25, 2010)

17. In 1.6 Gasoline section -

Change from:

GASOLINE: Gasoline is the only permitted fuel in NSS classes. Gasoline is one of the two fuels permitted in the FX classes.

To: In the NSS classes, common and commercially available racing gasoline, pump gasoline and E85 are the exclusive (only) fuels or blend of fuels permitted. Under no circumstances can the maximum volume of alcohol exceed 85 percent.

Reason: To allow the use of E85 fuel(s). (Jan. 1, 2011)

18. In Section 5: Tires and Wheels -

Change from:

TIRES (F/X CLASSES, NSS/A, NSS/B): Street type or drag slick tires permitted. Maximum rear tire designation of 10.5Wx33-inch permitted. The front tires are limited to 4.5-inch minimum tread width. The tread of the tires is not allowed to protrude outside the exterior bodyline at the top of the tire.

TIRES (ALL OTHER NSS CLASSES): Street type or drag slick tires permitted. Maximum rear tire designation of 10.5Wx31-inch permitted. The front tires are limited to 4.5-inch minimum tread width. Tire tread may not extend outside fenders.

To:

TIRES (F/X CLASSES, NSS/A, NSS/B): Street type or drag slick tires permitted. Maximum rear tire designation of 10.5Wx33-inch permitted. The front tires are limited to 4.5-inch minimum tread width and a minimum overall diameter of 26 inches. The tread of the tires is not allowed to protrude outside the exterior bodyline at the top of the tire.

TIRES (ALL OTHER NSS CLASSES): Street type or drag slick tires permitted. Maximum rear tire designation of 10.5Wx31-inch permitted. The front tires are limited to 4.5-inch minimum tread width and a minimum overall diameter of 26 inches. Tire tread may not extend outside fenders.

Reason: To require an era-correct appearance for front tires. (Jan. 1, 2011)

19. In All Classes -

Change paragraph one from:

All NSS Eliminator participants must declare and post the NSS or FX class of choice at the time of technical inspection or prior to the first scheduled qualifying run of the eliminator. No change of class is permitted after the first scheduled qualifying round.

To:

All NSS Eliminator participants must declare and post the NSS or FX class (index) of choice at the time of technical inspection on the track�s official tech card and with the NSS race director. No change of driver is permitted after technical inspection, except at the sole discretion of the rules committee.

Add paragraph two:

Each participant shall have the option to change class (index) prior to the first scheduled qualifying roundfor class runoffs or eliminator competition but must immediately notify both the track�s official scorer and the NSS race director of the change. All participants must display the chosen class (index) on the vehicle before entering the staging lanes for that qualifying run. No change of class (index) is permitted after the first scheduled qualifying round.

Reason: To codify and clarify driver and index posting requirements. (Jan. 1, 2011)

In All Classes �

Add paragraph three: Any participant who has qualified but for any reason is in doubt of being able to perform or cannot perform in class runoffs and/or eliminations must notify the NSS race director no later than one hour before any scheduled round of class runoffs or eliminations. If a driver and/or vehicle are unable to perform after entering the staging lanes, the scheduled opponent shall receive a competition single run.

Reason: To codify and clarify race procedures. (Jan. 1, 2011)

After In All Classes,add new section: Agreement to waive rule(s) prohibited

Add paragraph one: Any individual participant, any sponsor, any ad hoc group of participants and all participants as a group shall not agree to exclude application of any rule or to waive any penalty incurred or to compete in any other manner than established by the rules committee in the event format.

Reason: To codify and clarify race procedures. (Jan. 1, 2011)

Posted By: max_maniac

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/16/11 06:56 PM

Russ

Posted By: nssracer1

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/16/11 08:57 PM

I have been ask to clarify about the use of B-1 heads in NSS. These heads are legal in all NSS classes. We have only have a few racers using them but they are legal. Thanks, Doug Duell

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Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/17/11 03:04 AM

Rules are now posted and the B1's are legal.Now he has to find something else to cry about or just stay in his own sandbox where he belongs

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/17/11 07:09 AM

Quote:

I have been ask to clarify about the use of B-1 heads in NSS. These heads are legal in all NSS classes. We have only have a few racers using them but they are legal. Thanks, Doug Duell

Hi Doug thank you for chiming in and making it clear about the heads...

The B1-TS heads are legal or not legal?

Also is there anyone running in the FX class with bigger tires then 33x10.5w?

Thank you Rob

Posted By: actionange

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/17/11 02:16 PM

Quote:

Rules are now posted and the B1's are legal.Now he has to find something else to cry about or just stay in his own sandbox where he belongs

If you went to "the other site" you'll see he's out in the shop (as you should be) making the necessary changes to comply.
I don't see any tears...

WHY DON"T YOU JUST FIND SOME OTHER PLACE OR PERSON TO HATE? You bring NOTHING to the table!

Happy Hanukkah

and Merry Christmas

Posted By: poppaj

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/17/11 03:08 PM

B1-TS or Indy Preditors not legal in NMCA NSS/FX
I was told "No canted valves" for Mopar Wedge when I was thinking of running Preditors, that's when I went to B-1's.

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Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/17/11 03:16 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Rules are now posted and the B1's are legal.Now he has to find something else to cry about or just stay in his own sandbox where he belongs

If you went to "the other site" you'll see he's out in the shop (as you should be) making the necessary changes to comply.
I don't see any tears...

WHY DON"T YOU JUST FIND SOME OTHER PLACE OR PERSON TO HATE? You bring NOTHING to the table!

Happy Hanukkah and Merry Christmas

Ang NO ONE CARES about his Mickey Mouse shop.... Happy Holidays

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/17/11 03:20 PM

Quote:

B1-TS or Indy Preditors not legal in NMCA NSS/FX
I was told "No canted valves" for Mopar Wedge when I was thinking of running Preditors, that's when I went to B-1's.

PoppaJ someone was told by Doug that the TS heads are legal to run in FX.... We need to here this from Doug because it that's true your going to see people making some changes to there car....

Posted By: dannysbee

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/17/11 03:52 PM

MC B1 or the PSO B1 most likely would fly. They are both based on a standard B1 casting. Best says 475 CFM for their PSO not sure about Muscle Motors.

Posted By: actionange

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/17/11 03:53 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Rules are now posted and the B1's are legal.Now he has to find something else to cry about or just stay in his own sandbox where he belongs

If you went to "the other site" you'll see he's out in the shop (as you should be) making the necessary changes to comply.
I don't see any tears...

WHY DON"T YOU JUST FIND SOME OTHER PLACE OR PERSON TO HATE? You bring NOTHING to the table!

Happy Hanukkah and Merry Christmas

Ang NO ONE CARES about his Mickey Mouse shop.... Happy Holidays

I don't recall saying anything about "his Mickey Mouse shop" or requesting a reply from you.
You have a Merry Christmas

too...

Please finish your car so we can race each other at Beaver Springs in July

Posted By: nssracer1

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/17/11 04:16 PM

I will admit being a Indy customer for 20 years I do not know alot about B1 heads. I visited there website yesterday and here is my views on the legality of these heads. Feel free to correct me if Im wrong but it looks like B1 heads except fot the B1-TS will bolt right up to a wedge block. Although none of these aftermarket heads look exactly like a stock heads, these heads from a appearence standpoint are in the ballpark. But the B1-TS looks a little outside the ballpark to me. So based upon the fact the B1-TS will not bolt up to wedge block I would say at this time the B1-TS and Indy Preditor head are not legal in NSS. The NSS rules do not address certain brands of heads and may need to in the future. These heads to me appears to be more for Top Sportsman/Top Dragster, super fast bracket applications. Also Josh posted the NSS rules yesterday but it does not include our lasted class AAAA/FX 8.50 index. I hope this info has helped. See ya at the track, Doug Duell

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Posted By: joshking440

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/17/11 05:52 PM

I think thats a good call Doug.

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/17/11 05:56 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Rules are now posted and the B1's are legal.Now he has to find something else to cry about or just stay in his own sandbox where he belongs

If you went to "the other site" you'll see he's out in the shop (as you should be) making the necessary changes to comply.
I don't see any tears...

WHY DON"T YOU JUST FIND SOME OTHER PLACE OR PERSON TO HATE? You bring NOTHING to the table!

Happy Hanukkah and Merry Christmas

Ang NO ONE CARES about his Mickey Mouse shop.... Happy Holidays

I don't recall saying anything about "his Mickey Mouse shop" or requesting a reply from you.
You have a Merry Christmas too...

Please finish your car so we can race each other at Beaver Springs in July

I dont need your request to reply on my thread....And like I said we dont need to know or care about The Mickey Mouse garage...

So you want to race my car now at the Beaver?

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/17/11 06:09 PM

Quote:

I will admit being a Indy customer for 20 years I do not know alot about B1 heads. I visited there website yesterday and here is my views on the legality of these heads. Feel free to correct me if Im wrong but it looks like B1 heads except fot the B1-TS will bolt right up to a wedge block. Although none of these aftermarket heads look exactly like a stock heads, these heads from a appearence standpoint are in the ballpark. But the B1-TS looks a little outside the ballpark to me. So based upon the fact the B1-TS will not bolt up to wedge block I would say at this time the B1-TS and Indy Preditor head are not legal in NSS. The NSS rules do not address certain brands of heads and may need to in the future. These heads to me appears to be more for Top Sportsman/Top Dragster, super fast bracket applications. Also Josh posted the NSS rules yesterday but it does not include our lasted class AAAA/FX 8.50 index. I hope this info has helped. See ya at the track, Doug Duell

Doug we need to address this because someone said they spoke to you and you told them the TS heads are legal....

Posted By: 64hemi330sedan

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/17/11 06:18 PM

i have been reading this thread and i really need to ask why all this attention is being paid to who has the fastest n/ss car.why does it matter??.its a index class.the better question is who is the better driver/tuner.thats what the class is about.i have been racing index classes for fifteen years and dont recall the fastest index cars winning the champonship every year.all this smack talk is starting to make you guys sound like those atention whores who race heads up classes.i have met so many nice people who race n/ss and nostalgia muscle car along with a few jerks.but most come to race have fun and enjoy each others company.just one more gripe and i will let the flaming begin.i dont feel that 14x32 tires and sheet metal intake fit the nostalgia theme and should not be allowed in any n/ss class even afx.

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Posted By: actionange

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/17/11 07:24 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Rules are now posted and the B1's are legal.Now he has to find something else to cry about or just stay in his own sandbox where he belongs

If you went to "the other site" you'll see he's out in the shop (as you should be) making the necessary changes to comply.
I don't see any tears...

WHY DON"T YOU JUST FIND SOME OTHER PLACE OR PERSON TO HATE? You bring NOTHING to the table!

Happy Hanukkah and Merry Christmas

Ang NO ONE CARES about his Mickey Mouse shop.... Happy Holidays

I don't recall saying anything about "his Mickey Mouse shop" or requesting a reply from you.
You have a Merry Christmas too...

Please finish your car so we can race each other at Beaver Springs in July

I dont need your request to reply on my thread....And like I said we dont need to know or care about The Mickey Mouse garage...

So you want to race my car now at the Beaver?

No I want me in my car to race you in your car, it's a bracket race- not heads up. Cause you'll be faster than me and I'll leave first then you can chase and we can have fun at the finish line.

Posted By: joshking440

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/17/11 07:27 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I will admit being a Indy customer for 20 years I do not know alot about B1 heads. I visited there website yesterday and here is my views on the legality of these heads. Feel free to correct me if Im wrong but it looks like B1 heads except fot the B1-TS will bolt right up to a wedge block. Although none of these aftermarket heads look exactly like a stock heads, these heads from a appearence standpoint are in the ballpark. But the B1-TS looks a little outside the ballpark to me. So based upon the fact the B1-TS will not bolt up to wedge block I would say at this time the B1-TS and Indy Preditor head are not legal in NSS. The NSS rules do not address certain brands of heads and may need to in the future. These heads to me appears to be more for Top Sportsman/Top Dragster, super fast bracket applications. Also Josh posted the NSS rules yesterday but it does not include our lasted class AAAA/FX 8.50 index. I hope this info has helped. See ya at the track, Doug Duell

Doug we need to address this because someone said they spoke to you and you told them the TS heads are legal....

I think Doug just addressed it...... NO TS HEADS AND NO PREDATOR (CHEVY) Heads!!!!

SSR needs to build a real motor if he wants to play

Posted By: Gary Robbins

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/17/11 07:36 PM

all this smack talk is starting to make you guys sound like those atention whores who race heads up classes...just one more gripe and i will let the flaming begin.

Damn who died and made you god

Heads-up guys are racers just like index/bracket racers just chasing time slips a different way...I have raced and won in some 5.30 8th mile index races but it sure is hard getting use to dragging the brake pedal at the finish line...Who needs big tires when were getting it done on 28x10.5 tires and going way faster...Don't need any attention from the net as i get plenty at the track being the only MOPAR at most races i attend....

Posted By: BloFish

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/17/11 07:36 PM

Well said 64HEMI330SEDAN �

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/17/11 07:57 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

I will admit being a Indy customer for 20 years I do not know alot about B1 heads. I visited there website yesterday and here is my views on the legality of these heads. Feel free to correct me if Im wrong but it looks like B1 heads except fot the B1-TS will bolt right up to a wedge block. Although none of these aftermarket heads look exactly like a stock heads, these heads from a appearence standpoint are in the ballpark. But the B1-TS looks a little outside the ballpark to me. So based upon the fact the B1-TS will not bolt up to wedge block I would say at this time the B1-TS and Indy Preditor head are not legal in NSS. The NSS rules do not address certain brands of heads and may need to in the future. These heads to me appears to be more for Top Sportsman/Top Dragster, super fast bracket applications. Also Josh posted the NSS rules yesterday but it does not include our lasted class AAAA/FX 8.50 index. I hope this info has helped. See ya at the track, Doug Duell

Doug we need to address this because someone said they spoke to you and you told them the TS heads are legal....

I think Doug just addressed it...... NO TS HEADS AND NO PREDATOR (CHEVY) Heads!!!!

SSR needs to build a real motor if he wants to play

Josh unfortuntly he thinks other wise.... In his own words...:

who do you think was talking to Doug Duell yesterday for 45 minutes about the head choices and tire sizes and front end requirements?
Yes it was me. And all B1 heads are legal including the TS Heads according to Doug.

Posted By: joshking440

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/17/11 09:01 PM

Who cares what he thinks. He can show up and be illegal if he wants. I've told him the right answer

Posted By: poppaj

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/18/11 06:10 AM

Quote:

Who cares what he thinks. He can show up and be illegal if he wants. I've told him the right answer

It will be a no show

but that's OK we will have a great time at Josh's race anyway

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Posted By: Steve1118

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/18/11 04:00 PM

"i have been reading this thread and i really need to ask why all this attention is being paid to who has the fastest n/ss car.why does it matter??.its a index class.the better question is who is the better driver/tuner.thats what the class is about.i have been racing index classes for fifteen years and dont recall the fastest index cars winning the champonship every year.all this smack talk is starting to make you guys sound like those atention whores who race heads up classes.i have met so many nice people who race n/ss and nostalgia muscle car along with a few jerks.but most come to race have fun and enjoy each others company.just one more gripe and i will let the flaming begin.i dont feel that 14x32 tires and sheet metal intake fit the nostalgia theme and should not be allowed in any n/ss class even afx."

Well said. One of the beauties of NSS racing is that allows us all to relive the past without the intensity and headaches, and, yes, jerks, that populate class racing. All "who's the fastest" proves is who has the most money, and spends it in the right places. There are plenty faster than me, and I couldn't care less. What you "who's faster guys" are hung up is not NSS racing.

Posted By: tboomer

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/18/11 04:20 PM

Let's keep the

down a bit...

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/18/11 04:51 PM

Posted By: bigtimeauto

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/18/11 04:53 PM

Quote:

Great now i can read it later when the wife is watching lifetime

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/18/11 05:11 PM

Quote:

"i have been reading this thread and i really need to ask why all this attention is being paid to who has the fastest n/ss car.why does it matter??.its a index class.the better question is who is the better driver/tuner.thats what the class is about.i have been racing index classes for fifteen years and dont recall the fastest index cars winning the champonship every year.all this smack talk is starting to make you guys sound like those atention whores who race heads up classes.i have met so many nice people who race n/ss and nostalgia muscle car along with a few jerks.but most come to race have fun and enjoy each others company.just one more gripe and i will let the flaming begin.i dont feel that 14x32 tires and sheet metal intake fit the nostalgia theme and should not be allowed in any n/ss class even afx."

Well said. One of the beauties of NSS racing is that allows us all to relive the past without the intensity and headaches, and, yes, jerks, that populate class racing. All "who's the fastest" proves is who has the most money, and spends it in the right places. There are plenty faster than me, and I couldn't care less. What you "who's faster guys" are hung up is not NSS racing.

Steve thanks for you

Posted By: HemiDart68

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/18/11 05:39 PM

Quote:

i have been reading this thread and i really need to ask why all this attention is being paid to who has the fastest n/ss car.why does it matter??.its a index class.the better question is who is the better driver/tuner.thats what the class is about.i have been racing index classes for fifteen years and dont recall the fastest index cars winning the champonship every year.all this smack talk is starting to make you guys sound like those atention whores who race heads up classes.i have met so many nice people who race n/ss and nostalgia muscle car along with a few jerks.but most come to race have fun and enjoy each others company.just one more gripe and i will let the flaming begin.i dont feel that 14x32 tires and sheet metal intake fit the nostalgia theme and should not be allowed in any n/ss class even afx.

The only thing I disagree with is the sheetmetal intakes and 14x32. Big tires have been used on superstock cars since the 70's. Hardly a trick of the week. If big tires and sheet metal intakes are legal you open up your event to a ton more cars. Just about every NHRA and IHRA superstock car has big tires and a fab intake. Isn't it a good idea for the survivial of the class to get car counts? Most of the biggest gripes i see on this website is lack of payouts at these mopar only events. Most of the lack of payouts stem from lack of car counts. The class is a dial in anyway, why not loosen up the rules.

Posted By: HEMIFRED

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/18/11 06:08 PM

I think it's time to build me a HEMI NNS car

Posted By: dannysbee

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/18/11 06:37 PM

Do ittttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted By: hemi-challenger

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/18/11 06:40 PM

I agree with HemiDart, NMCA needs to look to make some changes. I have a 1970 Hemi Challenger and have tried for four years to get NMCA rules team to open up the rules to let 1970 & 1971 big block cars into NMCA NSS. The answer I get back is they look at it, but they don't want to let any new body styles in NSS, which to me the cars were talking about are 40 years old. The rules team keeps thinking that letting in two more years would ruin the NSS for all the racers. I have talked to many of the racers that run NMCA NSS and they don't understand it either. Most racers don't care, they want a place to race and NMCA does a great job taking care of the racers and has good sponsors support. I agree with the 10.5 tires size, so that the guys don't have to cut up these orginal cars fi they don't want to. Not trying to steal this tread. Just needed to agree with HemiDart. Thanks / Gary

Posted By: actionange

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/18/11 06:58 PM

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"i have been reading this thread and i really need to ask why all this attention is being paid to who has the fastest n/ss car.why does it matter??.its a index class.the better question is who is the better driver/tuner.thats what the class is about.i have been racing index classes for fifteen years and dont recall the fastest index cars winning the champonship every year.all this smack talk is starting to make you guys sound like those atention whores who race heads up classes.i have met so many nice people who race n/ss and nostalgia muscle car along with a few jerks.but most come to race have fun and enjoy each others company.just one more gripe and i will let the flaming begin.i dont feel that 14x32 tires and sheet metal intake fit the nostalgia theme and should not be allowed in any n/ss class even afx."

Well said. One of the beauties of NSS racing is that allows us all to relive the past without the intensity and headaches, and, yes, jerks, that populate class racing. All "who's the fastest" proves is who has the most money, and spends it in the right places. There are plenty faster than me, and I couldn't care less. What you "who's faster guys" are hung up is not NSS racing.

Posted By: cudaboy

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/18/11 07:07 PM

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I agree with HemiDart, NMCA needs to look to make some changes. I have a 1970 Hemi Challenger and have tried for four years to get NMCA rules team to open up the rules to let 1970 & 1971 big block cars into NMCA NSS. The answer I get back is they look at it, but they don't want to let any new body styles in NSS, which to me the cars were talking about are 40 years old. The rules team keeps thinking that letting in two more years would ruin the NSS for all the racers. I have talked to many of the racers that run NMCA NSS and they don't understand it either. Most racers don't care, they want a place to race and NMCA does a great job taking care of the racers and has good sponsors support. I agree with the 10.5 tires size, so that the guys don't have to cut up these orginal cars fi they don't want to. Not trying to steal this tread. Just needed to agree with HemiDart. Thanks / Gary

Why not race Nostalgia Muscle Car then? Same organization and format, just a different class.

Dennis

Posted By: wesw

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/19/11 02:58 AM

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I think it's time to build me a HEMI NNS car

why would you want to go that s l o w ? i drove a friends 64 sport fury and i was looking for something to do with all the extra time i had.

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/19/11 04:35 AM

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I agree with HemiDart, NMCA needs to look to make some changes. I have a 1970 Hemi Challenger and have tried for four years to get NMCA rules team to open up the rules to let 1970 & 1971 big block cars into NMCA NSS. The answer I get back is they look at it, but they don't want to let any new body styles in NSS, which to me the cars were talking about are 40 years old. The rules team keeps thinking that letting in two more years would ruin the NSS for all the racers. I have talked to many of the racers that run NMCA NSS and they don't understand it either. Most racers don't care, they want a place to race and NMCA does a great job taking care of the racers and has good sponsors support. I agree with the 10.5 tires size, so that the guys don't have to cut up these orginal cars fi they don't want to. Not trying to steal this tread. Just needed to agree with HemiDart. Thanks / Gary

I think since they can run sheetmetal intakes in the FX Class why not run a 14x32 and about letting more cars run in the class would be great it would help the purse and car count... Im sure there are plenty of cars that have legal cars but they have a big tire and cant run because of that reason...

Posted By: JAKE68

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/19/11 02:45 PM

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I agree with HemiDart, NMCA needs to look to make some changes. I have a 1970 Hemi Challenger and have tried for four years to get NMCA rules team to open up the rules to let 1970 & 1971 big block cars into NMCA NSS. The answer I get back is they look at it, but they don't want to let any new body styles in NSS, which to me the cars were talking about are 40 years old. The rules team keeps thinking that letting in two more years would ruin the NSS for all the racers. I have talked to many of the racers that run NMCA NSS and they don't understand it either. Most racers don't care, they want a place to race and NMCA does a great job taking care of the racers and has good sponsors support. I agree with the 10.5 tires size, so that the guys don't have to cut up these orginal cars fi they don't want to. Not trying to steal this tread. Just needed to agree with HemiDart. Thanks / Gary

I think since they can run sheetmetal intakes in the FX Class why not run a 14x32 and about letting more cars run in the class would be great it would help the purse and car count... Im sure there are plenty of cars that have legal cars but they have a big tire and cant run because of that reason...

I have a sheetmetal intake big tire ss/ car that i would like to attend some of the nss races. It would be hard to change my engine combo but I could easily change to a 10.5w tire and make that work. Asfar as the trans break that would be harder to disconnect ccuase i still need to get reverse. It would be easy to police if someone was using one because they could hear the 2 step at the line if they did.

Posted By: joshking440

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/19/11 02:48 PM

You could be like hemifred and you use the converter as your rev limiter

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Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/19/11 04:01 PM

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I agree with HemiDart, NMCA needs to look to make some changes. I have a 1970 Hemi Challenger and have tried for four years to get NMCA rules team to open up the rules to let 1970 & 1971 big block cars into NMCA NSS. The answer I get back is they look at it, but they don't want to let any new body styles in NSS, which to me the cars were talking about are 40 years old. The rules team keeps thinking that letting in two more years would ruin the NSS for all the racers. I have talked to many of the racers that run NMCA NSS and they don't understand it either. Most racers don't care, they want a place to race and NMCA does a great job taking care of the racers and has good sponsors support. I agree with the 10.5 tires size, so that the guys don't have to cut up these orginal cars fi they don't want to. Not trying to steal this tread. Just needed to agree with HemiDart. Thanks / Gary

I think since they can run sheetmetal intakes in the FX Class why not run a 14x32 and about letting more cars run in the class would be great it would help the purse and car count... Im sure there are plenty of cars that have legal cars but they have a big tire and cant run because of that reason...

I have a sheetmetal intake big tire ss/ car that i would like to attend some of the nss races. It would be hard to change my engine combo but I could easily change to a 10.5w tire and make that work. Asfar as the trans break that would be harder to disconnect ccuase i still need to get reverse. It would be easy to police if someone was using one because they could hear the 2 step at the line if they did.

I have the same issue as far as transbrake I need to have it hooked up for reverse.. I'm sure they can all hear that at the line....

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/19/11 04:02 PM

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Josh I lost you there I'm not understanding that sentence...

Posted By: dannysbee

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/19/11 04:07 PM

I am pretty sure what he is saying is Hemifred does not use a two step. He just sets the brake and floors the throttle. The stall of his converter keep him from over revving.

Posted By: HEMIFRED

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/19/11 04:07 PM

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I think it's time to build me a HEMI NNS car

why would you want to go that s l o w ? i drove a friends 64 sport fury and i was looking for something to do with all the extra time i had.

When it's 98 degrees I can dial down and wear a single layer suit.

and of course to have other kids to play with because in nostalgia pro you have no one to play with so you have to play with yourself

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Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/19/11 04:49 PM

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I think it's time to build me a HEMI NNS car

why would you want to go that s l o w ? i drove a friends 64 sport fury and i was looking for something to do with all the extra time i had.

When it's 98 degrees I can dial down and wear a single layer suit.

and of course to have other kids to play with because in nostalgia pro you have no one to play with so you have to play with yourself

So Fred NSS your thinking? I think its a good move...

Posted By: joshking440

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/19/11 05:14 PM

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You could be like hemifred and you use the converter as your rev limiter

Josh I lost you there I'm not understanding that sentence...

i fixed it...sorry I was driving when I posted that

Posted By: REHBERGERRACING

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/19/11 06:55 PM

Make a new class, Outlaw NSS.
Same format for cars with big tires
and transbrakes. That was easy.
Josh, lets get going on this!

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/19/11 08:46 PM

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Make a new class, Outlaw NSS.
Same format for cars with big tires
and transbrakes. That was easy.
Josh, lets get going on this!

There you go im in on that one... I just have to build a real motor now...lol

Posted By: 64_Plymouth

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/19/11 10:42 PM

They had a class like this at one time...it was called Pro Nostalgia and I wish they would bring it back. Heads up!

Posted By: AUTOBODYWORKS

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/19/11 10:52 PM

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They had a class like this at one time...it was called Pro Nostalgia and I wish they would bring it back. Heads up!

That class put me in the stands.

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/19/11 10:55 PM

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They had a class like this at one time...it was called Pro Nostalgia and I wish they would bring it back. Heads up!

What was the weight class and what restrictions did they have in order to run...?

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Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/19/11 11:24 PM

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Casey.....Casey.....Casey....

I cant believer you think its just that easy to bolt on a nitrous plate and go that fast....LOL

Those that have never used it always like to dis-credit the people using it to go fast. Im not discrediting anyone...Just stated who i thought had the fastest NSS car, and his haters jump right on that. meanwhile i really dont know any of these guys other than to maybe say hi. This site is more biased than i thought, because im getting PM's about voicing my opinion in here??? WOW ....
AND i know how hard it is to go 8 anything WITH OR WITHOUT nitrous...SO props to all the fast NSS cars out there getting it done while still maintaining that 1960's look.

Also accept my apology if you took my sarcasm the wrong way, just indicating that a lot of Mopar guys really are stuck in the 60's...in technology as well as mentally...LOL

PEACE

PS...Just re-read your post, all i want is for the "haters" to see that yes SSR is going in the 8's with just an Indy head, very 1960's appearing car. Thats all...AND for the record, when i get on the same track/pits as SSR im going to show him what a real street car runs like

Yes your right he just broke into the 8's he went an 8.97 in Nov in great air and it was 55 deg out...

Tony we are waiting for your dart to take out that 1200 hp TS motor next season... His car was supposed to go 8.20's from what I recall reading under his car picture...

He went the 8.90's with the light blue 65 dodge. The black car has gone 8.50's and still tying to sort it out.

Did you see it run 8.50's?

DID YOU? I know I DIDN"T see it either but what's the point? This is a nice informative thread and now the doubting and question comment.

Do I have to send you back into your garage like I sent Al the other day?

LMFAO Ang im not AL ill send you somewhere else my friend... Dont kill this thread its going good..."ANYWAY BACK TO YOU JIM"

Sorry Rob! In keeping with the Christmas spirit I'm don't want thread to stop. Thats why I commented as I did.
This is a breath of fresh air in an otherwise rotten world.
I'm going back to the garage now to do more work on my car.
On another note lets ALL meet at the Beaver in July so all the really fast NSS cars can duke it out- East coast vs Mid west. OK?
BTW- Who's JIM?

Ang you and your friends building lawn mowers now? I was at your shop today...LMFAO Check out the picture of the building bottom right look familiar!!!!!!?

http://www.ssrequipment.com/index.asp

Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/19/11 11:35 PM

Just made an appointment to have my lawnmower dyno'ed

Posted By: actionange

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/19/11 11:41 PM

Ang you and your friends building lawn mowers now? I was at your shop today...LMFAO Check out the picture of the building bottom right look familiar!!!!!!?

http://www.ssrequipment.com/index.asp

It's "Silly Season" you knuckleheads!!!
OR- a very early APRIL FOOLS!!! PRANK...

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/19/11 11:44 PM

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Ang you and your friends building lawn mowers now? I was at your shop today...LMFAO Check out the picture of the building bottom right look familiar!!!!!!?

http://www.ssrequipment.com/index.asp

It's "Silly Season" you knuckleheads!!!
OR- a very early APRIL FOOLS!!! PRANK...

LMFAO back pedal hurry up....

You and your friend have more stories then Walt Disney!!!

"ANYWAY BACK TO YOU JIM...."

Posted By: JAKE68

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/19/11 11:49 PM

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They had a class like this at one time...it was called Pro Nostalgia and I wish they would bring it back. Heads up!

What was the weight class and what restrictions did they have in order to run...?

They could run holley carbs,10.5w tires, trans break,heads up. They had to weight lbs per cu.in. based on type of head and manufacture. They weighed between 3000.-3400 lbs. The last year that that class ran they where running 8.70-9.00's

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/20/11 01:09 AM

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They had a class like this at one time...it was called Pro Nostalgia and I wish they would bring it back. Heads up!

What was the weight class and what restrictions did they have in order to run...?

They could run holley carbs,10.5w tires, trans break,heads up. They had to weight lbs per cu.in. based on type of head and manufacture. They weighed between 3000.-3400 lbs. The last year that that class ran they where running 8.70-9.00's

What yr was the last yr they an that class? How many cars were in that class? Was the class A,B & E bodies?

Posted By: dannysbee

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/20/11 01:56 AM

That was a NMCA class I believe. It would have been all the Manufacturers. I only remember the 62-65 cars in that class. The 409 Chevys would have been at 3000 and the Hemi at 3400. A guy in our club named Jess Jordan ran the class and I remember him complaning about the weight brakes. He ran 64 Plymouth Hemi.

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/20/11 02:02 AM

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That was a NMCA class I believe. It would have been all the Manufacturers. I only remember the 62-65 cars in that class. The 409 Chevys would have been at 3000 and the Hemi at 3400. A guy in our club named Jess Jordan ran the class and I remember him complaning about the weight brakes. He ran 64 Plymouth Hemi.

Thats 4 tenths he has to make up which I find it also wrong that the hemi had to weigh more..

Posted By: JAKE68

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/20/11 03:06 AM

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That was a NMCA class I believe. It would have been all the Manufacturers. I only remember the 62-65 cars in that class. The 409 Chevys would have been at 3000 and the Hemi at 3400. A guy in our club named Jess Jordan ran the class and I remember him complaning about the weight brakes. He ran 64 Plymouth Hemi.

Thats 4 tenths he has to make up which I find it also wrong that the hemi had to weigh more..

Jess Jordan was in the early years of that class. He had a red 65 plymouth called the sting wich was the same car new that a black guy from detroit had original owned called the sting. Johnny Kelly then raced the car in pro nss. he still owns it and turned it back into a b car. It is still called the sting. The hemi cars were not penalized that much actualy a high rise fe motor had to weigh more. My brothers 64 car had to weigh 3300 lbs. with a 462 wedge. The latest car in that class was 68 cuda's and dart's. The pontiacs were the lightest and could never make the power that a hemi could make so the fields were pretty close. I thought the class was awsome to bad it just did not take off.

Posted By: dvw

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/20/11 03:13 AM

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That was a NMCA class I believe. It would have been all the Manufacturers. I only remember the 62-65 cars in that class. The 409 Chevys would have been at 3000 and the Hemi at 3400. A guy in our club named Jess Jordan ran the class and I remember him complaning about the weight brakes. He ran 64 Plymouth Hemi.

Thats 4 tenths he has to make up which I find it also wrong that the hemi had to weigh more..

It was a NSCA class. We ran a Hemi 65 Dodge a few years before the end. If I remember right we had to weigh 3600lbs with a .060" over 426 Hemi. At that time we could run 9.20. There were never more than a handfull of entrys. 2-3 Mopars,2-3 Pontiacs,2 Chevys,2-3 Fords. Never saw more than 9 or 10 cars at once. At the end the 62 "409" of Jim McKenzie and Paul Adams Fairlane were on the top of the heap. Around the 8.80 range.
Doug

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Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/20/11 03:51 AM

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That was a NMCA class I believe. It would have been all the Manufacturers. I only remember the 62-65 cars in that class. The 409 Chevys would have been at 3000 and the Hemi at 3400. A guy in our club named Jess Jordan ran the class and I remember him complaning about the weight brakes. He ran 64 Plymouth Hemi.

Thats 4 tenths he has to make up which I find it also wrong that the hemi had to weigh more..

It was a NSCA class. We ran a Hemi 65 Dodge a few years before the end. If I remember right we had to weigh 3600lbs with a .060" over 426 Hemi. At that time we could run 9.20. There were never more than a handfull of entrys. 2-3 Mopars,2-3 Pontiacs,2 Chevys,2-3 Fords. Never saw more than 9 or 10 cars at once. At the end the 62 "409" of Jim McKenzie and Paul Adams Fairlane were on the top of the heap. Around the 8.80 range.
Doug

Doug you are right they were going low nines at the time. When you guys quit they lowered the weight in the cars across the board by 200 lbs. A 426 hemi b car could weigh 3350. Back when you guys were running Mancini's b1 headed wedge had to weigh 50 lbs. more than a hemi. Near the end of that class a ss/a car could run at legal nhra weight if they used a 10.5w otherwise they had to carry an extra 50lbs. A legal tbolt the same thing. In the end the rules got real weird when they started letting McKenzie run a big block chevy because he had the only alum. 409 block and couldn't keep it together very expensive combo. A iron block could not even competitive. And the tbolt guys started using low riser heads to take advantage of the weight break and then raised the ports like a highriser. Charlie wescot was very competitive in that class with his war fish car. The first year I had my dart i raced that class a few times.

Posted By: dannysbee

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/20/11 04:01 AM

There was a guy from here that owned a Harley dealership that had a 62 409. I believe Don Smith was his name. Jess said the heads and block was billit aluminum.

Jess stopped racing the class after he was critically injured in a Motorcycle wreck at Sturgis.

Posted By: poppaj

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/20/11 04:20 AM

Tony's Pro NSS class is what got me interested in NSS racing and away from the NHRA/IHRA grind. poppaj

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/20/11 04:44 AM

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There was a guy from here that owned a Harley dealership that had a 62 409. I believe Don Smith was his name. Jess said the heads and block was billit aluminum.

Jess stopped racing the class after he was critically injured in a Motorcycle wreck at Sturgis.

I guess blocks werent an issue...

Posted By: NoJoke

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/20/11 04:46 AM

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Tony's Pro NSS class is what got me interested in NSS racing and away from the NHRA/IHRA grind. poppaj

I think it has a good chance of comming back since there are a good amount of cars that would fit into that class...

Posted By: OUTLAWSSAA

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/20/11 06:15 AM

I think it has a good chance of comming back since there are a good amount of cars that would fit into that class...

What you don't realize is that class was weight per cubic inch depending on the MFGR of the motor. Most of the cars your talking about would have to weigh 5000lbs because of the size of there motors, including myself. LOL

Posted By: JAKE68

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/20/11 02:29 PM

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There was a guy from here that owned a Harley dealership that had a 62 409. I believe Don Smith was his name. Jess said the heads and block was billit aluminum.

Jess stopped racing the class after he was critically injured in a Motorcycle wreck at Sturgis.

I guess blocks werent an issue...

Actually the blocks were an issue. That block that smith has is mac's old block because there was only 2 blocks ever made and one was destroyed.

Posted By: Troublemaker427

Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/20/11 03:20 PM

I agree 100%!! Pro Nostalgia wasn't as simple as building a big motor and throwing it into a light car. I don't think people relize how hard of a class it was to run. The Booze Brothers worked very hard at this class and it showed with their results.

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Re: NSS Record Holder!!!! - 12/20/11 03:44 PM

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I agree 100%!! Pro Nostalgia wasn't as simple as building a big motor and throwing it into a light car. I don't think people relize how hard of a class it was to run. The Booze Brothers worked very hard at this class and it showed with their results.

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I think it has a good chance of comming back since there are a good amount of cars that would fit into that class...

Well the class isnt being run any more is this correct? If so maybe its time for some rule changing so more people can run in that class and bring it back some of the old time cars and some new life back to that class.. Sort of like what Milan puts on " Run What You Brung" and keep the cars 62-69 looking some what period correct only NA motors 3200lb any size motor, tunnel rams,trans brakes, any size tire...ect...

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