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harmonic balancer

Posted By: sam64

harmonic balancer - 11/21/11 01:12 AM

what is the preferred balancer for a 400 based 512,tci,fluid damper,etc?will be under 7,000 rpm,thank,sam.
Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Re: harmonic balancer - 11/21/11 01:39 AM

Well I guess I will be the minority here that likes a Fluidamper I have used them on all my engines and a few more that I built for friends.
Gus

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Posted By: WILD BILL

Re: harmonic balancer - 11/21/11 01:40 AM

Most on here will tell you ATI.

However, we went with one of these http://www.professional-products.com/dampersProductchrysler.php on my motor as it also isn't turning over 7K and Scott has had really good results in the past with them.

The only thing to note is remove each screw around the orange ring and add a dab of Loctite to em.
Posted By: AAR-B4

Re: harmonic balancer - 11/21/11 02:34 AM

I use the Professional Products balancer also.
It is SFI approved so it was tested at 12,000 rpm.

flame on....
Posted By: rickstershemi

Re: harmonic balancer - 11/21/11 03:00 AM



Rickster
Posted By: Moparteacher

Re: harmonic balancer - 11/21/11 03:04 AM

Innovators West.

http://www.innovatorswest.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=24
Posted By: Thumperdart

Re: harmonic balancer - 11/21/11 03:05 AM

We all know that Fluidampr is the BEST!
Posted By: 383man

Re: harmonic balancer - 11/21/11 04:42 AM

I have had this one on my street eng for years with no problems. Ron

http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/prosport1.html
Posted By: 11secaarcuda

Re: harmonic balancer - 11/21/11 01:32 PM

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I have had this one on my street eng for years with no problems. Ron

http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/prosport1.html



Any one else on this one? It looks like a good price?
Posted By: 383man

Re: harmonic balancer - 11/21/11 06:33 PM

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I have had this one on my street eng for years with no problems. Ron

http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/prosport1.html



Any one else on this one? It looks like a good price?



I can also tell you it is made in Australia and not China.

Here it is on my eng. And all the belts line up fine. Ron






Posted By: BradH

Re: harmonic balancer - 11/21/11 06:36 PM

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I thought the Professional Products dampers had a reputation for the outer ring spinning on the hub. Isn't that the brand that board member "RAMM" had fail during their EMC pulls a couple of years ago, or am I mistaken as to which damper they were using? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Posted By: POS Dakota

Re: harmonic balancer - 11/21/11 08:50 PM

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I have had this one on my street eng for years with no problems. Ron

http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/prosport1.html



Any one else on this one? It looks like a good price?



I can also tell you it is made in Australia and not China.

Here it is on my eng. And all the belts line up fine. Ron










I have one on my 408 and I needed the AR .125 crank spacer for some reason. Pulley needed to come out that far.

It's a nice damper though.
Posted By: Hemi Allstate

Re: harmonic balancer - 11/21/11 09:06 PM

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I have had this one on my street eng for years with no problems. Ron

http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/prosport1.html



Any one else on this one? It looks like a good price?



I can also tell you it is made in Australia and not China.

Here it is on my eng. And all the belts line up fine. Ron












That looks a lot like this one from Summit ?!?!? What do you think?
Mark

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Posted By: WILD BILL

Re: harmonic balancer - 11/21/11 09:09 PM

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I thought the Professional Products dampers had a reputation for the outer ring spinning on the hub. Isn't that the brand that board member "RAMM" had fail during their EMC pulls a couple of years ago, or am I mistaken as to which damper they were using? Please correct me if I'm wrong.




Perhaps that's the reason Scott said to add the Loctite to each of the screws
Posted By: 383man

Re: harmonic balancer - 11/21/11 09:20 PM

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I have had this one on my street eng for years with no problems. Ron

http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/prosport1.html



Any one else on this one? It looks like a good price?



I can also tell you it is made in Australia and not China.

Here it is on my eng. And all the belts line up fine. Ron












That looks a lot like this one from Summit ?!?!? What do you think?
Mark



Sure looks the same. And it is SFI approved. I have used two of them on my eng and my buddies. I liked the fact that my alt belt lined up perfect. I know the ATI balancer does not line up right with stock pulleys. And I heard that the one's made in Australia are usually good ones. Ron
Posted By: rickstershemi

Re: harmonic balancer - 11/21/11 11:19 PM

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I thought the Professional Products dampers had a reputation for the outer ring spinning on the hub. Isn't that the brand that board member "RAMM" had fail during their EMC pulls a couple of years ago, or am I mistaken as to which damper they were using? Please correct me if I'm wrong.




Perhaps that's the reason Scott said to add the Loctite to each of the screws



Couldn't say for sure....mine is a solid non-sfi unit...?????

Rickster
Posted By: Triple Threat

Re: harmonic balancer - 11/21/11 11:44 PM

ATI is the best ......
Posted By: POS Dakota

Re: harmonic balancer - 11/22/11 12:08 AM

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ATI is the best ......



Agreed, but they are also the most expensive.
If I had a more serious effort race engine with 20-25k in it, I would. But instead I spent the difference on a distributor.

I just have a street engine and I felt the ATI might be overkill on it, so I got the same one as the guys above, but for a smallblock.
It's nicely made, looks nice and people seem happy with them.

Posted By: B1Ken

Re: harmonic balancer - 11/22/11 01:39 AM

It's been about 3 years since I've posted here but I just thought I'd check it out for old times sake. I USED to use Fluidampers and I also USED to break crankshafts regularly. Since I switched to ATI in 2002 I haven't broken a single crank. My engines are 511 B-1's which I run in Super Gas.
Ken Bowers
Posted By: Thumperdart

Re: harmonic balancer - 11/22/11 01:42 AM

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It's been about 3 years since I've posted here but I just thought I'd check it out for old times sake. I USED to use Fluidampers and I also USED to break crankshafts regularly. Since I switched to ATI in 2002 I haven't broken a single crank. My engines are 511 B-1's which I run in Super Gas.
Ken Bowers

I`ve heard this a few times and it boils down to quality controll plain and simple or mine and many others that use Fluidampr`s would be breaking cranks too.
Posted By: B1Ken

Re: harmonic balancer - 11/22/11 02:13 AM

Hmm ... Who's quality control, mine or Fluidamper? I had two of 'em and I broke cranks with both of them. None with ATI. If you'd like to buy them I'd sell 'em CHEAP!
K.B.
Posted By: clovis

Re: harmonic balancer - 11/22/11 02:45 AM

I would look at the Powerbond PB 1112 SS.

The SS I got from Amazon actually had the black finish which I thought only came on the ST. All my pulleys lined up perfect. Dwayne actually put me onto these. Very nice for the price.

http://www.amazon.com/Powerbond-Balancers-PB1112-SS-Approved-Harmonic/dp/B003NECMNS

You can also find them on eBay.
Posted By: Thumperdart

Re: harmonic balancer - 11/22/11 05:25 AM

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Hmm ... Who's quality control, mine or Fluidamper? I had two of 'em and I broke cranks with both of them. None with ATI. If you'd like to buy them I'd sell 'em CHEAP!
K.B.

What I mean is that EVERYTHING fails as long as man has his hands on it at one point or another. We`ve heard from some that Harland-Sharp`s suck cos a few had issues, or this or that. Mine is 13 years old and my motor is smooth as glass even above 7500 rpm`s. Not pointing a finger just stating facts.............
Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: harmonic balancer - 11/22/11 05:43 AM

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ATI is the best ......



Agreed, but they are also the most expensive.
If I had a more serious effort race engine with 20-25k in it, I would. But instead I spent the difference on a distributor.

I just have a street engine and I felt the ATI might be overkill on it, so I got the same one as the guys above, but for a smallblock.
It's nicely made, looks nice and people seem happy with them.





I have learned you get what you pay for.

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Posted By: Kevins493

Re: harmonic balancer - 11/22/11 07:08 AM

ATI is the only one i would really consider.
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