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Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11
Posted By: Evil Spirit
Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/07/11 04:14 PM
Is this from one of our members? Trans explosion - I read the driver is ok, with a sore foot. Pic was taken Saturday at Milans No ET Nats.
Pic is from Mike Grasso - Outlaw Photo
Posted By: moparacer
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/07/11 04:15 PM
I hate to ask but what trans was that?
I think I might know the answer...
Posted By: joshking440
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/07/11 04:20 PM
no billet drum in that one!
Posted By: cheapstreetdustr
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/07/11 04:20 PM
and just think ...there is more damage after that moment that photo was taken...
makes a nice picture to hang on the wall to go along with the memory/story...thats for sure.
cheapst.
Posted By: Evil Spirit
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/07/11 04:22 PM
I was sent the pic on my Facebook - I went to Grasso's photo section and read that the trans had exploded and parts came through the floor. Driver walked away, but I READ that he had been hit in the foot. I posted to get some info.
Posted By: Mr.Yuck
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/07/11 04:35 PM
ouch, that don't look fun does it?
Posted By: Guitar Jones
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/07/11 04:52 PM
And expensive. A billet drum is a lot cheaper than what that will cost.
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/07/11 05:15 PM
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And expensive. A billet drum is a lot cheaper than what that will cost.
but but but ... we don't need no stinkin billet parts ...
Posted By: Labratt
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/07/11 07:36 PM
Posted By: Guitar Jones
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/07/11 07:46 PM
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So..is the consensus the trans was a 727? 
How much do BILLET drums go for? Might be something for me to look into....especially since we pulled my engine and trans out of the GTX on Saturday! 
About $600.
http://www.aandatrans.com/Departments/Chrysler-727-Trans/Drums.aspx
Posted By: dartman366
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/07/11 07:47 PM
OUCH!!! now that's going to hurt, and I am not trying to be funny here, glad the driver didn't suffer anything major,, if in fact it was a 727 then a billet drum should of been used right along with a good aftermarket sprag not just a replacement factory bolt in one, i do feel they are stronger than the standard bolt-in's,,also powerslides do bust too,,seen a lot of factory cases break in two.
Posted By: tubtar
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/07/11 07:57 PM
That is a bang........ain't it ?
Glad the driver didn't come away with a permanent limp.
Posted By: 440Jim
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/07/11 08:16 PM
I hate to see that.
I wonder if the car had a driveline failure recently? (u-joint, drive shaft, rear end)
Posted By: Labratt
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/07/11 08:57 PM
Jim...nice shot of the Dart!
Posted By: 383man
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/07/11 09:16 PM
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Jim...nice shot of the Dart!
X2. Ron
Posted By: deaks
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/07/11 09:21 PM
I wonder if it had LBA.
Mick
Posted By: quick77rt
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/07/11 09:31 PM
Maybe if we started posting some half foot pics, people might be a bit more pro active on making there 727 as safe as possible.
Glad the driver wasnt hurt.
Posted By: Cab_Burge
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/07/11 09:34 PM
didn't Don Garlits loose part of his foot due to powerglide parts exploding in his two speed trans back in 1971 at lion Drag strip?
Posted By: quick77rt
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/07/11 09:45 PM
It just seems to me the past year or so or maybe it never stops but there has been ALOT of lucky people that still have both feet.
One thing I cant do is auto trans rebuilds, gonna try soon but my point is for along time I cringed every time I thought of what the crt pro race trans cost me, I run that with a blanket on my street car and now with the procharger/nitrous setup, its like the dana rear end...I never worry and I bought the right trans the first time and still have two feet.
Posted By: mrrandyj
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/07/11 10:42 PM
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And expensive. A billet drum is a lot cheaper than what that will cost.
but but but ... we don't need no stinkin billet parts ...
John, your starting to sound like Doc Fiberglass
Posted By: Mr.Yuck
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/07/11 11:12 PM
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It just seems to me the past year or so or maybe it never stops but there has been ALOT of lucky people that still have both feet.
One thing I cant do is auto trans rebuilds, gonna try soon but my point is for along time I cringed every time I thought of what the crt pro race trans cost me, I run that with a blanket on my street car and now with the procharger/nitrous setup, its like the dana rear end...I never worry and I bought the right trans the first time and still have two feet.
when does the blanket become manditory? I often thought of welding a steel plate under my right foot and up the tunnel.
Posted By: fishy340
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/07/11 11:32 PM
wow glad your ok,that picture is i hate to say pretty damn cool.
Posted By: DragDart360
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/07/11 11:43 PM
All cars running an auto. trans. Quicker than 10.99 (6.39 1/8) must have a trans. shield or blanket meeting SFI 4.1
Posted By: goldmember
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/07/11 11:47 PM
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didn't Don Garlits loose part of his foot due to powerglide parts exploding in his two speed trans back in 1971 at lion Drag strip?
Nope.
Posted By: 727builder
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/07/11 11:53 PM
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I hate to see that.
I wonder if the car had a driveline failure recently? (u-joint, drive shaft, rear end)
I would bet it did?? Glad he's ok!
Posted By: quick77rt
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/08/11 12:03 AM
Ok, for the ones in doubt since ive been peppered with "You will burn up a blanket on the street"
Other then needing to get it on the lift and tighten up/tuck the straps again, there has been zero damage or melting of the blanket so that dont hold water, however the next project will have the shield.
What is better, the blanket or a shield???
Posted By: bonefish
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/08/11 12:12 AM
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I wonder if it had LBA.
Mick
doesnt the LBA valve body prevent that?
Posted By: DragtimeDodge
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/08/11 12:23 AM
That is nasty. From the above posts it sounds like the driver is OK.
Having raced a pushbutton 727 for 15 years behind a 440 in a relatively heavy car (3,450 lbs), I've picked up a few habits along the way. 1) Always run a billet drum; 2) never lift the throttle while in 1st gear (like in the case of a red-light), stay under full power to 2nd gear then lift; 3) always run a blanket or a shield. If you're concerned about heat with a blanket, you can fold the blanket up alongside itself to keep the pan exposed; 4) if I ever have a drivetrain issue under full power (blown rear, engine, u-joint), it's a given that I'm taking the trans out, too.
Again, glad he's OK.
Posted By: rustbuckett68
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/08/11 01:55 AM
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didn't Don Garlits loose part of his foot due to powerglide parts exploding in his two speed trans back in 1971 at lion Drag strip?
Crowerglides were the thing back then. Weren't they a planetary unit? And wasn't it the clutch?
Posted By: rickraw
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/08/11 02:30 AM
i'm getting a shield from a&a this winter 4 my 904. i saw a pic on here weeks ago of a kevlar shield with holes in it. don't remember the post. don't know if a blanket is any better. stay safe, seeya.
Posted By: 727builder
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/08/11 02:44 AM
Bought this blanket a few years ago for a friends trans. I liked how easy they fit. I wonder Are they still available????
Posted By: J_BODY
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/08/11 02:51 AM
That looks like the blanket that Chuck Lofgren used to sell. I have one on my car as well as my dads. Great fit.... and they do work.
Posted By: 727builder
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/08/11 02:52 AM
The first thing to buy and bolt into a 727. A&A ultimate Sprag. Nice piece... But with mis-use? Or abuse? Anything can fail. Stay safe guys!!
Posted By: Clanton
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/08/11 03:00 AM
i wont even look at a blanket that wont cover all the way around!i just ordered a new 1 from jegs allstar[69010]12x49" with the buckles under the pan to easy access.my 12 roller sprag just went after 20 yrs and i got a 16 roller in now to go with the in use billet drum,4 pinion sun gears.
Posted By: instigator
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/08/11 03:48 AM
Just poseted up some great priced parts in the trans for sale section yall might need to keep this from happening.....
Going to the Darkside of 2 speeds!
Posted By: dragram440
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/08/11 03:11 PM
I run a RCI blanket and it wraps all the way around the trans unlike that other pic. It has a few street miles on it and hasnt burned at all yet. It is real close to the collector but as long as its not touching I think your good!
Posted By: 23T Hemmee
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/08/11 04:36 PM
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didn't Don Garlits loose part of his foot due to powerglide parts exploding in his two speed trans back in 1971 at lion Drag strip?
Nope.
Nope, what? He lost half his foot when the clutch exploded, clear through the clutch can and cut the car in half at the cage. If he was running a two-speed it would have been a Lenco, otherwise it was direct drive.
Posted By: Voluster
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/08/11 04:59 PM
I run the billet drum from crt and the csr trans shield and a crt lba valve body
I used to run a blanket never had any trouble with heat
I had the same thing happen with a buddy having a 727 come thru the floor broke his foot. and messed his car up good
That was all it took for me to go buy the good stuff
Posted By: MRMOPAR
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/08/11 05:01 PM
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The first thing to buy and bolt into a 727. A&A ultimate Sprag. Nice piece... But with mis-use? Or abuse? Anything can fail. Stay safe guys!!
I'd have to disagree with that. The cost of that sprag is money better put towards a billet drum and LBA valve body.
The first manual valve body I owned (1970) was made by B&M. It was a LBA valve body.
Posted By: goldmember
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/08/11 05:09 PM
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didn't Don Garlits loose part of his foot due to powerglide parts exploding in his two speed trans back in 1971 at lion Drag strip?
Nope.
Nope, what? He lost half his foot when the clutch exploded, clear through the clutch can and cut the car in half at the cage. If he was running a two-speed it would have been a Lenco, otherwise it was direct drive.
Right,it wasn't related to a "powerglide" exploding and taking off his foot.
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/08/11 06:03 PM
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And expensive. A billet drum is a lot cheaper than what that will cost.
but but but ... we don't need no stinkin billet parts ...
John, your starting to sound like Doc Fiberglass
No , I said that in a language that is known to man ...
I was waiting for the old timers to chime in that they never had or needed a billet drum or super sprag ...
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/08/11 06:06 PM
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The first thing to buy and bolt into a 727. A&A ultimate Sprag. Nice piece... But with mis-use? Or abuse? Anything can fail. Stay safe guys!!
I'd have to disagree with that. The cost of that sprag is money better put towards a billet drum and LBA valve body.
The first manual valve body I owned (1970) was made by B&M. It was a LBA valve body.
I just did a trans for a car that may see the track once , put the A+A sprag in , better money spent because the car doesn't need the $700 drum.
Posted By: maximum entropy
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/09/11 12:26 AM
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And expensive. A billet drum is a lot cheaper than what that will cost.
but but but ... we don't need no stinkin billet parts ...
John, your starting to sound like Doc Fiberglass
No , I said that in a language that is known to man ...
I was waiting for the old timers to chime in that they never had or needed a billet drum or super sprag ...
HEYHEYHEY! CRIPE! i'm an old timer, and my tf is full of billet. i like stuff not coming through the floor and trying to hurt me. and fire. i like fire as much as the next guy, but not in the car, and that happens a lot when the drum goes clank. i've seen drums go through carbon fiber shields. i don't thing anything can stop a drum that really wants to come through the floor and leave you on fire with one foot. imo any tf that's run on a dragstrip should have a billet drum.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/09/11 12:38 AM
Stock stuff in my trans.... dont do STUPID stuff and
you wont have a problem
Posted By: dustergirl340
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/09/11 02:00 AM
Posted By: Evil Spirit
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/09/11 02:36 AM
So, is D Vanderwalker a member here - that was the name on the passenger window.
Posted By: gsmopar
Re: Trans Explosion - Milan No ET - 11 - 5 - 11 - 11/09/11 03:59 AM
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That looks like the blanket that Chuck Lofgren used to sell. I have one on my car as well as my dads. Great fit.... and they do work.
I got one recently. He still sells them!
