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Street/Strip Car Street Usage

Posted By: 67Satty

Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/27/11 06:22 PM

It seems like it is almost harder to build a street/strip car than a strip only car or a street only car because of the compromises involved in trying to do both.

I'd be interested in hearing about people's street/strip combos. Cars that actually see some regular street usuage, not race cars that have somehow been registered but don't really get driven much on the street.

How often are you driving it?

What's your combo in terms of motor, heads, cam, exhuast, stall speed, gears?

What are you running for rear tires? Regular radials, drag radials, DOT slicks? Non-dot slicks?

What are you running for front wheels and tires? How many are running 3.5" aluminum wheels with front runners?

Full interior?

Parts stripped off (wiper motors, radios, heater boxes)?

Manual steering or power?

Any issues that have come up?

I just got my '67 Satellite running after swapping out the original 318 for a pretty mild 440 with about 9.75 compression, 238 @ .050 Engle hydrualic cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM, 850 Holley DP with choke horn milled off, Hooker 1 and 7/8" headers, full 2.5" mandrel-bent exhuast with crossover, Dynamic 9.5" 4200 stall converter, big trans cooler, deep pan, 3.91 suregrip, 255-60-15 radials on cop rims, full interior, no heater box, no radio (yet), manual steering, manual disk brakes.

I only have a couple hundred miles on it so far but it seems pretty civilized to drive around. It's not very loud, idles at 700 rpm in gear, handles decent, lack of power steering is not a big deal at all, starts right up without a choke (just pump it a couple times). It makes me wonder why they bother selling performance carbs with chokes. Who is actually going to driving their musclecar or hot rod in the winter or cold weather? Cooling system usually never gets past 180 degrees.

I drive it a few times a week around town to do errands after work and on the weekends.

The only issues so far seem to be the poor-fitting Hooker headers rattling up against things when I'm at a stop light, and the combo of stall speed and shift kit seem to make it not want to shift from second to third until about 4,000 rpm. I've been messing around with the kickdown linkage but I probably should have just gone with a manual valve body.
Posted By: 71cuda

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/27/11 07:07 PM

360 edelbrock heads,904 3800 9.5" convertor,8 3/4" 4.10 gears.
tti headers,full 2 1/2"exhaust. runs 11.60's@3,300#
i drive it around 600 miles a year.raced it 10 times this year.
11.5x15" mt et streets.
i know the car could go faster with a 8" convertor,but it still has realy good street manners with this set up. full int.with race buckets,fiberglass front bumper.
new best was at maplegrove last sunday 11.59 @ 113.56 1.55 60'
i was still in the 10k footbrake nat. when they voted to split the prise money.due to cold track cond.28 cars left out of almost 400.

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Posted By: Dragula

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/27/11 07:13 PM

Quote:

It seems like it is almost harder to build a street/strip car than a strip only car or a street only car because of the compromises involved in trying to do both.

I'd be interested in hearing about people's street/strip combos. Cars that actually see some regular street usuage, not race cars that have somehow been registered but don't really get driven much on the street.

How often are you driving it?

What's your combo in terms of motor, heads, cam, exhuast, stall speed, gears?

What are you running for rear tires? Regular radials, drag radials, DOT slicks? Non-dot slicks?

What are you running for front wheels and tires? How many are running 3.5" aluminum wheels with front runners?

Full interior?

Parts stripped off (wiper motors, radios, heater boxes)?

Manual steering or power?

Any issues that have come up?

I just got my '67 Satellite running after swapping out the original 318 for a pretty mild 440 with about 9.75 compression, 238 @ .050 Engle hydrualic cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM, 850 Holley DP with choke horn milled off, Hooker 1 and 7/8" headers, full 2.5" mandrel-bent exhuast with crossover, Dynamic 9.5" 4200 stall converter, big trans cooler, deep pan, 3.91 suregrip, 255-60-15 radials on cop rims, full interior, no heater box, no radio (yet), manual steering, manual disk brakes.

I only have a couple hundred miles on it so far but it seems pretty civilized to drive around. It's not very loud, idles at 700 rpm in gear, handles decent, lack of power steering is not a big deal at all, starts right up without a choke (just pump it a couple times). It makes me wonder why they bother selling performance carbs with chokes. Who is actually going to driving their musclecar or hot rod in the winter or cold weather? Cooling system usually never gets past 180 degrees.

I drive it a few times a week around town to do errands after work and on the weekends.

The only issues so far seem to be the poor-fitting Hooker headers rattling up against things when I'm at a stop light, and the combo of stall speed and shift kit seem to make it not want to shift from second to third until about 4,000 rpm. I've been messing around with the kickdown linkage but I probably should have just gone with a manual valve body.



I like some gear to mine, and some converter, and pump gas is always a must. What you have sounds like the making of a good street/strip car, so depending on what your budget is, the sky is the limit.

Rear Suspension:
I like ladder bars over SS springs or Caltrac's and Mono's.
I run spools from now on, I cannot stand posi rears that wear out after a year or two.
I run a back braced 8-3/4" or a Dana
Gears depend on tire height, and if I have over drive or not. My one hot rod has over drive so that has 4.56's and a 28" tire. My other two have 4.10's and at least a 29" and my other has 31", so they still cruise ok.

I put +2000 on my pro street truck this year, and it has a mild 360 .484 cam with 4.56 gears and OD and fuel injection. No power steering, but it does have wipers. Seats are custom covered bench.
Posted By: Triple Threat

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/27/11 07:13 PM

67 Dart 340

Full Interior, aftermarket stereo with 12" sub, heater, wipers everything still in tact. With the exception of this winter the car has been driven on average probably 4 days a week since I got it 5 years ago. Sometimes everyday, and for a long time it served as a my daily driver.

340, 9.5:1, Edelbrock heads, air gap, 230/230 480/480 hydraulic. Holley 750 HP. TTI 1 5/8-3/4 headers and 3" exhaust with X pipe from the collector to the rear bumper. 904, Shift Kit, cast aluminum deep pan. 9.5" 4600 stall converter.

Car was converted to Manual steering and Manual brakes Big bolt pattern, factory discs up front, 10x2.5 drums in the rear. No issues with either.

Originally had 002/003 SS springs, switched to Calvert 90/10's up front, Rancho's rear, split monos, Caltracs.

Car had a 8 3/4 with a sure grip and 3.91 gears. It was replaced by a Dana 60 with a spool, 35 spline axles and 4.10's

Originally had 15x7's up front with normal BFG radials and 15x8's rear with either a 26" or 27" tall drag radial (See sig pic). Made the switch to 15x4's up front and ran with Sportsman Pro's up front and frankly the car drove like garbage. With either a slick on the back or the drag radials it was just plain scary to drive for some reason. Wen't back to a radial and the car is 100 times better.

I literally drive the car everywhere, rain or shine, being in seattle, lots of rain the car can't just sit in the garage 260 days a year. Its sat in stop and go traffic for hours, cruised down the freeways and never left me stranded.

I've put about 1,000 passes on this combo (200 ish a year) and thousands of miles with 0 real failures. It has been good to me.

I have a much more stout engine combo going together, It will still run on pump gas, and I still plan on driving it, but probably not nearly as often as I used to. We shall see.
Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/27/11 07:13 PM

What's your combo in terms of motor, heads, cam, exhuast, stall speed, gears? 440, stage VI heads, 588 solid roller, headers 3" system. 3800 stall and 3.91's

What are you running for rear tires? Regular radials, drag radials, DOT slicks? Non-dot slicks? Hoosier Drag Radials durning the season (275/60/15) 265/65/16 BFG's out of season

What are you running for front wheels and tires? How many are running 3.5" aluminum wheels with front runners? 15x3.5 w/ 205/75's

Full interior? yes

Parts stripped off (wiper motors, radios, heater boxes)? wiper no Heat box yes, radio c/d yes

Manual steering or power? manual

Any issues that have come up? Not really
Posted By: StrokerAspen

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/27/11 07:25 PM

Good question. I think a Street/Strip car can be a bit of a grey area still. I personally would still consider my car a street/strip car, but some others may not.

Last month I did a "Alberta's Fastest Street Car Shootout" with it. I would say that was a good event to weed out the race cars from street cars. We had to drive from a mall in the north of the city to the track on the extreme south. We chose to unload at the track and drive to the mall, and then drive back with everyone else. We didn't want to have to unload at the mall, and then drive the car and truck and trailer back to the track.

It worked out to about 2 hours of bumper to bumper traffic. We made it with no issues, and surprisingly, it cooled! (18" x 18" 4 core brass rad, no shroud, mech. fan 3" from rad)

We did the cruise on 91 octane fuel. I couldn't lean into it at all really, or it would start to tick a bit. I really had no reason to lean into it on a cruise though.

Once at the track, and through tech, We dumped 5 gallons of 111 octane in the car and started racin'! It was a random draw from a hat who you lined up with. We were the last all motor car to get knocked out. Ran a best of 10.78 @ 126mph through the mufflers @ 5000ft. elevation.

The car has a roll cage, no heater, no power brake, no power steering, no sound deadener, and I have ET FRONTS on a set of 4" wide centerline's up front, and 8.5 X 26" ET Drags on the back currently. The car has a big converter, and a set of 3.23 gears.

The engine is currently 13.3:1 compression on a W2 cast iron head. The cam is a solid roller 277/284 @ .050" and .748"/.714" lift. It doesn't sound that street-able, but it has been pretty maintainance free so far, and I street drive it.

I consider it street/ strip, but others may not.

-Kenny








Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/27/11 07:29 PM

I started building my 1971 Duster BB stroker (400 block, 4.300 stroke with 4.375 bore, 518 C.I. pump gas motor ) to race the black guys(street racers or who ever would race, not just the black guys ) in East L.A., Watts and Compton in 1999, I didn't get it done(health reasons) until the summer of 2005 after I moved to central Oregon It is fully legal for NHRA drag racing to 10.00 flat, it went 9.993 the last time out so I need to slow it down if I want to race it again, no big deal I know how to slow them down, it is called raising the right foot before the finish line or put weight in the trunk or lots of other ways to slow it down a tiny bit The car has ladder bars with coil over rear suspension with a diagonal link, stock gas tank, stock 1974 K memeber and standard steering, complete 1974 Duster front suspenion and disc brakes, 6 cylinder torsion bars, radio and heater, extra insulation under the carpet and on the firewall and above the headliner, no back seat.Stock 1973 Duster front bucket seats, they are 8 lbs each lighter than the 1971 are NHRA legal Chrome moly roll bar, sub frame connectors, full after market steel wheel tubs to the stock subframes,I had the rear wheel wells stretched five inches, three inches forward and two inches back from the stock location (center) The rear end is moved forward one inch to keep it looking stock, the motor is moved back a inch also I drive it a little up here in the summer, never during bad weather I have ran several different tire combination on it, M/T ET Street bias ply and the same size M/T ET Street Radials, 315x60x15 on ten inch wide rims and a set of Goodyear slicks, 12x29x15 as well as a set of M/T 10.5x31.25x15 W drag slicks. It is a ball to drive Sets you way back in the seat I have to be real careful on the street as it will bust the rear tires loose in any gear above a slight roll if I slam the throttle open all the way If I roll into it slowly in 2nd or 3rd gear it will stay hook up, usually I have had several different converters in it, 8 inch, 9 inch and a ten inch. and several different rear gear ratio in it, 3.73, 3.91, 4.10 and 4.30 in the 8 3/4 housing before I bent it up bad enough to have to replace it from to much torque It has a Dana 60 out of a 3/4 ton Ford pick up cut down in it now 4.10 gears with a Strange Engr. spool and Strange Engr.35 spline axles Stock A body 8 3/4 complete rear brakes. I have a three inch exhaust on it from the fenderwell headers back to the rear bumper, the mufflers are three inchx14x7 oval Magnaflows mounted at the rear bumper Not loud until full throttle I have removed them(complete exhaust sytem, pipes and mufflers) at the local 1/8 mile track and the car picked up .04 ET and .25 MPH, really not worth removing them I do have a fibreglas hood and front bumper, I put a three speed wndshield wiper motor and switch to keep it legal in CA. I originally had a six pak on it and needed the three speed windshield wiper motor (They mount siedways to the firewall, not straight out like the two speeds motor do ) to clear the six pak air cleaner I have had to remove the heater when I put two differnt 440 motors in the car, I build Mopar (only)hi po motors for fun and extra income and test them in my car, the 440 rocker arm covers won't clear the stock heater motor I hope this helps EDITED, Boy did I get treed Front tires and rims are 3.5 Bodarts and 165SR15 VW tires, ten or 12 inch Bodarts on the rear with whatever tire is on them I also forgot to attach the picture

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Posted By: nz383man

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/27/11 07:31 PM

I hear what you are saying about a dual purpoes car, thinks like diff gears, front tire width, noise, gear shifts, fuel economy etc are at opposite ends of the scale for a street car/cruiser or a drag car.

My 383 '70 Barracuda has always been a street car that I could race (not fast though!) I could take my kids 120 miles for a holiday with their grandparents & take in the local drags before driving home in reasonable comfort.

Like yourself I thought it was time for an upgrade but I'm not sure if I have gone too far as it is not altogether & on the road yet. I will be running a solid roller cammed (268/264 @ .050 .637"/.634" lift) 484 Hemi with dual plug heads, magnesium tunnel ram & a couple of 750 Holleys. I'm swapping out my shift kitted TF for a full manual reverse pattern one. For the street I'll run 15 x 6 & 15 x 10 on the strip & shows I'll use 15 x 3.5 fronts, I intend starting off with Mickey Thompson Sportsman tires 27" & 29" tall as I'm going for the Pro Stock look. I live in New Zealand & our laws say we must run full treaded tires on the street "The minimum legal tread depth is 1.5mm across three-quarters of the tyre width and around the entire circumference"

I am a but worried how much fun this car will be on a 300 mile trip but it sure will be fun in short bursts.
Posted By: 67dodge67

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/27/11 08:29 PM

1967 Coronet, drive it everywhere but not a "daily driver", full interior, exhaust, headlights, wipers, etc.etc. I'd have to say it is more of a street than strip car, about 80% street/20% strip. If I get to 'da Grove 3-4 times a year in WI, I'm happy with that. I don't trailer it there either (should have the last time tho... ouch!) and am happy with the 470/727 trans w/ 9.5" converter, 4.10 dana, Bullet roller cam, m/t 325x15x50's drag radials OR bf goodrich t/a radials in back, t/a's in the front. Get lots of compliments driving it around town and to the local stores. Have yet to see how it does this year but previous best times were 11.80's at 113mph-ish.

Have fun with your car!!

Dave

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Posted By: 383man

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/27/11 08:36 PM

My 63 is most definetly a street/strip car that I drive alot. I like to drive it when ever I can but I also worry as to where it will be parked so sometimes I wont take it to events where it would have to be parked in a park-in-lot all day or somewhere that I cant see it all day. As long as I can get to see it every so often or I feel it is safe then I will drive it.

It is a pump gas only car as I have never had race gas in my gas tank and I race it just like I drive it thru the 3" X-pipe system with 2" TTI headers. Has working wipers , radio and horn.

The new eng is the strongest street/strip combo I have built but it drives and idles good. And I love the fact I can pull in any gas station and fill up on 92 pump.
Its a 63 Plymouth Sport Fury that weighs just over 3700 with me in it and it has a 6 point roll bar and frame connectors.
Eng is a .030 over 440 with a 4.15 crank for 493 cubes. 440Source bottom end with dished pistons for 10.6 comp with the Indy EZ heads I use that were ported some by Dwayne Porter.
Custom grind solid flat tappet cam speced by Dwayne Porter with 264 & 270 at .050. Lift with 1.6 rockers is .624 and .630 on a 110 LSA. I have the cam in on a 106 centerline. Indy dual plane intake with an 850 DP. Mallory dist with MP orange ecu and Firecore plug wires. And I still use the red Holey fuel pump with the built in regulation. 727 trans with manual v/b and a Dynamic 9.5 converter that flashes about 4200. 4.30 gears and I drive on the street and race on Hoosier 30 x 9 radial slicks. Suspension is all stock with 3400 lb SS springs and long C-body type rear shocks. 90/10 Comp shocks up front. Car is manual steering and really drives easy.

Body is all stock as I will not cut on this car at all. Best et is 10.76 @ 124.49 and I hope with some tuning over the next year to get it down in the 10.50's as the eng has only been in the car about 4 months. And I do love this hobby very much as like I said I drive it all the time and drive it to the track and race it 2 or 3 times a year. Ron






Posted By: 383man

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/27/11 08:50 PM

Here is an eng shot of my 493. Ron

Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/27/11 10:59 PM

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Here is an eng shot of my 493. Ron



Dude, you need a bigger air cleaner I would bet money that there is probally close to .05 or more in a 14 inch diameter by three inch width9or as tall as you can run under your hood ) with a drop base air cleaner assembly on your car, maybe a tiny bit more( .005 to .010) with a K&N Extreme lid on top
Posted By: Kindafast

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/27/11 11:07 PM

I had many single purpose race cars for many years and watched the grass grow up around them. Never again will I have a dedicated race car. My car is a 77 Road Runner , full interior , heater , radio , wipers and even a functional clock on the dash. It runs 10.80s all day with full exhaust and et streets on the back. 422 inch 318 pump gas with a small roller cam Eddie heads 950 Hp Carb 727 trans and 4.30 gears. It will run in traffic all day and gets pretty good mileage. I don't drive it as much a I used to but it will still go to the grocery store every once in a while. " Beer Run "
Posted By: 383man

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/27/11 11:35 PM

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Here is an eng shot of my 493. Ron



Dude, you need a bigger air cleaner I would bet money that there is probally close to .05 or more in a 14 inch diameter by three inch width9or as tall as you can run under your hood ) with a drop base air cleaner assembly on your car, maybe a tiny bit more( .005 to .010) with a K&N Extreme lid on top



Actually that pic is from Carlisle as I threw that on to go because the larger one I used hit the hood. If you look close it has no base as it fit under the hood just putting the filter and top on and the filter fit perfect on the carb. I need to get a drop base job and see if I can get it to work.


I really enjoy post like this as I love reading about everyone's street/strip combo's. Ron
Posted By: 383man

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/27/11 11:39 PM

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I had many single purpose race cars for many years and watched the grass grow up around them. Never again will I have a dedicated race car. My car is a 77 Road Runner , full interior , heater , radio , wipers and even a functional clock on the dash. It runs 10.80s all day with full exhaust and et streets on the back. 422 inch 318 pump gas with a small roller cam Eddie heads 950 Hp Carb 727 trans and 4.30 gears. It will run in traffic all day and gets pretty good mileage. I don't drive it as much a I used to but it will still go to the grocery store every once in a while. " Beer Run "




Your combo just proves how good the smallblock strokers run. Do you know what your car weighs ? Ron
Posted By: Kindafast

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/27/11 11:49 PM

Thanks for the complement Ron. My old Taxi weighs 3400 with me in it. A lot less without me.
Posted By: smokinwoody

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 01:00 AM

in 2001 I started building my 63 Dodge into a drag machine only..

was going to build a 572 and race N/SS...however I started doing things like removing the stock front suspension...so that would have put it in A/FX...

then the Duster came along and the Dodge got shelved for a few years since 2004..

we sold the Duster and I kept the engine and driveline..the plan was now to install all the goodies into the 63 Dodge and put it on the street..

problem here is the 499 is a bit radical for the street meaning I couldnt take it on long cruises...so now my thinking switched gears and decided to have my engine builder go over the engine and have a custom ground hydraulic roller cam made and installed..this way I wont be eating springs and having to back off the rockers each time its put away for the winter..

just recently we moved the 65 GTO out of a 10 year hibernation in a filtered air bubble...there wasnt an ounce of dust on the car!!...so now the Dodge is in the corner and up on jacks...

I'll let the pics do the talking...


http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v506/smokinwoody/1963%20Dodge/

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v506/smokinwoody/63%20Dodge%20back%20in/

Posted By: TheOtherDodge

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 01:10 AM

My previous "street car" was a 72 Challenger that was full interior and ran 9.3's. Was it streetable? Ok to the grocery store or gym. Could you drive it 100 miles to somewhere? I wouldn't have chanced it.

Having "been there done that", I chose to go with as streetable as your father's oldsmobile with my new project.

389 sb with 76 mm turbo, AtoA intercooler,FAST FI, Eddy heads, .220/.520 hydraulic roller, 9:1 compression.

727 tranny with 2500 stall and with 3.55 gear

205/70/15 fronts on 5" rims, 315/65/15 Drag Radials on 11" rims on the rear.

AC, PS, PB, full interior with SRT-8 front seats, cd player and as quiet as my 2000 Dakota.

Hoping to make some passes at the track in the next few weeks and should run some mid to low 10's and 9's if I want to push the limits of a stock block.
Posted By: codfish

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 01:12 AM

68 Dart.
It has a 4.15" stroked RB, 11-1 comp. [Email]263@.050[/Email] 540 lift hydraulic flat tappit cam. Stock RPM heads, 850dp, msd ignition, 2" TTI headers, and 3" x pipe with ultra flows. 727 with CRT reverse manual VB, and PTC 3800 converter. Dana 60 with 3.73 gears. 325-50-15 ET drag radials, and about 3800 lbs at the line. ALL stock body and interior. Manual steering, and manual drums all around.

Car runs 11 flat at 121 mph, in FULL street attire, on 91 octane.

Car still has everything that the factory gave it, and it all works. Still has the original jack in the trunk. Well the vinyl top is gone, but thats it.

Car is driven every nice day that I can drive it. Only real issue is, or was, the oil pan hitting the pavement every now and again, but thats to blame on the sh%^&ty roads here. Jacked the front up an inch with the torsion bars, and alls well now.

If I did it all over, I'd drop the comp a little to compensate for the crappy gas here.

Or drop it alot and put a supercharger or blower on it. Maybe that will be the next upgrade




codfish
Posted By: quickd100

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 01:18 AM

Well my truck didn't get a mile on it in 2011. Motor was out getting 'updated and I had to wait on parts and people half the summer'. Normally it see's 1000-2000 miles a year. The combo is; 528 hemi, 10.4-1 tunnel ram with 2 850 thermoquads, solid roller .722/.698 285/290@.050 110 centerline [Email]installed@106.[/Email] Convertor is going back for restall, it currently stalls at 6200, 4.56 with spool, 31" tall street tires, 32.5/14 radial drag slicks and a 4-link rear suspension.
I have installed 2 racing bucket seats to save some weight over the old bench seat. I've removed the heater but retain the wipers. I've also ditched the bumpers to save some weight and it looks better without them.
It idles a bit snotty but that doesn't bother me, gas mileage is about 10mpg. I run a very large trans cooler and have never had a problem with the loose convertor. Exhaust is 3-1/2" pipes with an X-pipe and 3-1/2" ultra-flows.
I drive it at least once a week often more than that when the weather is decent, (I've driven it at -25F but it is normally tyed up for the winters) It's got armstrong power steering and manuel drum brakes. It runs on anything you put in the tank, normally 89.5 octane. It cruises at around [Email]3400-3500rpm@60mph.[/Email] In the summer heat it will run at 185-200F. Dave
Posted By: BSB67

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 01:27 AM

Obviously what everyone sees as a "real" or "true" street car can vary greatly and is a personal preference.

Pump gas
3.23 gear with Trutrac LS
1800 stall (stock converter)
Full interior
235/70/14, 255/60/15
No headers – full exhaust
3rd gear by 18 mph
Will drive very nicely at 1000 to 1100 rpm in third gear at 20 mph
No part throttle kick down
Fairly smooth shifting fully auto tranny
Manual steering

Drive to the track 65 miles one way without a tool, get directly in the staging lane without opening the hood or trunk, and run 11.70s at 118+ mph. Personally I prefer a better power to weight ratio (more mph) than a 60 ft. On the street, from anything other than a dead stop, the higher power to weight car is faster.

I think I drive it a lot (when it is running), but it actually comes out to about 2000 mile per year. It actually sits a lot in June, July and August between being too busy, or too hot.

I really would not change anything. The only thing that I’m wishing were different: the electric fuel pump (you can hear it at an idle) and the car drones a bit under load in the 1800 to 2100 rpm range.
Posted By: mshred

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 02:03 AM

I drove my car every single day if it was nice...Also got into it many times during pouring rain to drive it because it was my only method of transportation...drove it to the track the 2 hours there each way pegging 3k the whole way...made about 45 track passes, another 50 street passes, lots more burnouts, and just screwing around on the street all the time...temp never gets past 190 even in super nasty heat

What's your combo in terms of motor, heads, cam, exhuast, stall speed, gears? Motor is a junkyard 91 360LA bottom end, IMM prepped RHS heads with IMM custom hydraulic roller cam, air gap intake, 750HP carb, 1-5/8 headers, 3" x pipe exhaust dumped with borla xr-1 race muffs...rear end is a 4.10 dana with 35 spline guts, narrowed, with a powerlock...caltracs with 6 cyl springs and ranchos, calvery 90/10's up front with RMS adjustable UCA's and /6 t bars

I run 28x12.5 et streets (bias ply) everywhere, even in the rain...fronts are 15x4 centerlines on 165 radials...car sees tons of crappy roads here in Toronto and no issues, just gotta watch for the tar lines sometimes lol


full interior, heating system, and wiper motor, manual steering, full sound system with subwoofer and speakers, all steel...car weighs about 3400lbs with me in it

Only issue I have is that I spun a bearing, but thats just an excuse to build another motor and go faster....I couldnt have been happier with my combo...best times are in my sig, and it ran on 87 pump puke all summer long which really helped my wallet considering the ridiculous gas prices and how much i drive this thing


Posted By: topside

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 02:27 AM

Some nice cars in this thread! I like Ron's '63 a ton, and Codfish's Dart manages the stealth look really well, with a lot more menace just visible at a 2nd glance. That stock-looking Charger is a hoot as well.
For my '64 wagon, if I had the bucks I'd be thinking turbo'd Poly 318, but the heads just don't flow. The other wish-list motor was 500" of low-deck that would look for all the world like a '64 383. In the end I'm using the usual RB deal with Stealth heads, and keeping the gear & converter street-friendly. If it runs low-12s @ our usual 3800-ft DA, I'll be happy with it. When I want to work harder than that, the low-10s-nonstreetable-car is waiting in my shop. I haven't had a street/strip car in a long time (except the Hemi 4-speed RR which is a bit precious to pound on repeatedly), but I'm looking forward to it.
Posted By: 383man

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 03:27 AM





That is one awesome pic of your fine car. What a beauty !



Thank you for the kind words Topside. But everyone of these awesome Mopar street/strip machines are fine automoblies. Ron
Posted By: 383man

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 03:40 AM

Codfish your Dart weighs 3800 lbs with you in it !! Wow thats B-body weight. I know my sons 72 Dart goes about 3550 with his 180 in the car. I wonder why your Dart weighs so much as I figured an all stock Dart A-body with a bigblock would weigh around 3350 to 3450 with out any weight taken out and no driver but yours is even heavier. It runs very good for 3800 lbs. Ron
Posted By: codfish

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 03:59 AM

Ya Ron it's a pig lol.

Like mentioned before nothing has been removed except the vinyl top. Things added are homemade subframe connectors, which are probably 30 lbs+/-, 1/4" thick driveshaft loop, the 3" exhaust, the steel wheels, Caltrac setup, and my 230 lb girly figure. And that weight was with a full tank of gas too.(the car, not me ). Dana adds a bit too I'm sure.

codfish
Posted By: Kam*Kuda

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 04:06 AM

Great combo. Nice Ride
Posted By: mshred

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 04:27 AM

Quote:





That is one awesome pic of your fine car. What a beauty !



Thank you for the kind words Topside. But everyone of these awesome Mopar street/strip machines are fine automoblies. Ron



thanks Ron! Your 63 is one of my favorite B's on here! I was going to buy an early B before my a-body, always loved them! and I love the fact that you drive yours everywhere, including the track
Posted By: StealthWedge67

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 04:28 AM

Lotsa fast street cars on this board!

Mine's a full street car, with everything that came on it from the showroom in '67, it weighs about 3775 with me in it. Drive it all over, although not as much as I wish. Race it 4 or 5 times a year (again, not as much as I wish) This year it ran a best of 12.06 @ 113, then broke the 8-3/4"; Just recently got it back together. I'm dead positive the car has consistant 11's in it, I just have to get to a few TnT nights.

Combo:
1967 Plymouth Satellite.
452" B Wedge; factory forged RB crank, H-beam rods, Iconn forged pistons, 10.25:1, Studded mains & MP windage tray w/ deep pan & HV pump.
O.T.B. Stealth heads with Engle double springs & Comp locks & retainers
Engle solid Flat tappet cam: 252* @ .050 & .573 lift, square.
Eddy RPM manifold & 830 DP
Hooker 1-7/8" headers to 3" cutouts, then stepped to 2-1/2 out the back.
Digital 6+ ign. with a Mallory Mag distributor
10" 3500 converter & TransGo stage 2 VB. w/ 3.91's out back
Calvert split mono's & Cal-Trac bars, with 255-60 ET Street Radials (@ the track - It normally has Dunlop street radials on it - 215/65's up front & 245/60s out back on 15x7 steel rims).

It's had Steelies and doggie caps on it for a number of years now, But I'm getting a little restless and I think I'm gonna buy a set of wheels for myself for christmas this year. My favorite thing about this car is that it was a 100% stock 383 car when I bought it I, and I've done every single modification and rebuild to it in my garage by myself (except for the machine work on the motor).

Wish I had more pictures of it.

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Posted By: 383man

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 04:41 AM

GEnsrud I wish you had more pics of your car to as I really like it ? Got any more good pics at all of it you can post ? Ron
Posted By: StealthWedge67

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 04:42 AM

Under hood.

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Posted By: StealthWedge67

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 04:51 AM

Here's a crappy picture from Bremerton a few months ago. I broke the rear end on the way home this day.

Note to self...... Take more pictures of the car

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Posted By: StrokerAspen

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 05:22 AM

Quote:

Great combo. Nice Ride




Thanks! I am a pump gas guy too, unfortunelty, as it sits now, I had to put a combo together with the parts I had. Soon it will be back on pump gas and I will put more miles on it.
Posted By: 6bblFLASH

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 12:25 PM

Quote:

Obviously what everyone sees as a "real" or "true" street car can vary greatly and is a personal preference.

Pump gas
3.23 gear with Trutrac LS
1800 stall (stock converter)
Full interior
235/70/14, 255/60/15
No headers – full exhaust
3rd gear by 18 mph
Will drive very nicely at 1000 to 1100 rpm in third gear at 20 mph
No part throttle kick down
Fairly smooth shifting fully auto tranny
Manual steering

Drive to the track 65 miles one way without a tool, get directly in the staging lane without opening the hood or trunk, and run 11.70s at 118+ mph. Personally I prefer a better power to weight ratio (more mph) than a 60 ft. On the street, from anything other than a dead stop, the higher power to weight car is faster.

I think I drive it a lot (when it is running), but it actually comes out to about 2000 mile per year. It actually sits a lot in June, July and August between being too busy, or too hot.

I really would not change anything. The only thing that I’m wishing were different: the electric fuel pump (you can hear it at an idle) and the car drones a bit under load in the 1800 to 2100 rpm range.



That is freaking AWESOME!!!!
How the H--L did you get such outstanding power at such a low RPM???
Please share
Posted By: 6bblFLASH

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 12:35 PM

Heres my street ride so far.
68` Satelitte,68`440 stock, 8.69cr.home ported heads,488 hyd.cam 850Proform/Holley,1-7/8ths headers/2-1/2 exh. Stock 10.4-conv./3.55 rear.MT-radials 295/55`s.
Oh yeah and a Dick Landy 174 Supercharger.
Only made a couple runs and ran a 12.22@111mph at the Mopar Nationals shifting at 5,000.
Drives and idles like a stock vehicle.
I want 11`s tho so I need to keep tuning.

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Posted By: 6bblFLASH

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 12:35 PM

engine

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Posted By: W5Duster436

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 01:49 PM

I haven't had a chance to get mine to the track yet but have logged about 700 street miles this year. It should run high 9's

ShadyDell 436ci W5 - 700hp and 4spd
Original full interior plus cage
Billet Specialty Streetlites 15x10's rear w/MT 275/60/15's and front runners on 3.5 rims
8 3/4 w/4.30's

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Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 01:59 PM

Quote:

I haven't had a chance to get mine to the track yet but have logged about 700 street miles this year. It should run high 9's

ShadyDell 436ci W5 - 700hp and 4spd
Original full interior plus cage
Billet Specialty Streetlites 15x10's rear w/MT 275/60/15's and front runners on 3.5 rims
8 3/4 w/4.30's



very cool car, love the color. Glad you didn't change it. What suspension? It will be hard to run 9's on 275's, leaf springs and cal-trac's.
Posted By: ZIPPY

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 02:39 PM

Quote:


That is freaking AWSOME!!!!
How the H--L did you get such outstanding power at such a low RPM???
Please share



Oh hell yeah

It's 500ci with E heads according to the signature, but more info on the combo would sure be appreciated

I'd like something like that in a C body

I don't have a trailer yet (someday) so my GTX gets driven wherever it goes. Have not driven it much at all this year, too busy finishing the shop (almost done now).

I've owned the car for alot of years, and I even drove it every day (including winter) in the late '80s when it was my only transportation. My first pass at the track with it was 13 flat at like 106. It saw 12.90s that same season, and basically I picked up about a tenth and a half per year until I got to 12.53 @ 106 or so. That was all with a stock piston, reringed 440 with a 484 purple shaft and milled stock heads for a whopping 8.8:1 compression...4500 stall, 3.91 gear, 29" Hoosier qtp.
I put tons of miles on it in that configuration.

Got the urge to go quicker and felt the 440 was getting tired, built a 451 low deck with 10.75:1, e heads, solid roller from Porter Racing heads, and so on. Have tried a couple different intakes, carbs and headers on it. Upgraded to a 4.10 Dana also. First pass with the new motor was like 11.60s or something like that but wasn't a full pass (had some issues), next season after the issues were fixed it was 11.24 @ 119.3. Now it's 11.02 @ 123. Should be in the 10.80s or 90s when I get a few more things sorted out, but my ego doesn't require I get there immediately and I got too many irons in the fire anyway.

For years I tried not to comprimise street handling, so the car has always had big .920 torsion bars, the sway bar in place, 70 series radials in the front and stock replacement shocks up until lately.

I put front runners, .840 bars and adjustable shocks on and I don't think I am going to like driving it 'normally' that way....however, I feel I've reached the point where the traction issues are ridiculous and needed to be fixed.
So we'll see what that does, and if I can't live with it in normal driving I'll just change it back or find a happy medium if possible. All that stuff is easy to change.

I usually use drag radials/70 series radials on the street, for longer drives. I don't drive the wrinkelwall tires on the street any more than I can help it.

The main issue I have with driving it really often, nowadays? I hate sitting there idling for long periods of time, and I hate the price of gas. Other than that, no problem, cooling is fine and all...I just feel like it's a waste of time, the motor, money, and fuel.....but sometimes, I just have to do it anyway.
Posted By: BradH

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 02:45 PM

Posted By: Kindafast

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 02:57 PM

I have been reading all these post and I like at the cars that have been posted. Got me thinking about the " good old days " Back when I was a teenager if you had a low 13 or high 12 car you were the baddest dude on the street. Now I have a high 10 car and am just one of the masses. Times sure changed in the performance business.
Posted By: W5Duster436

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 03:07 PM

Quote:


very cool car, love the color. Glad you didn't change it. What suspension? It will be hard to run 9's on 275's, leaf springs and cal-trac's.



Yes it has mono-leafs and caltracs and drag radials. There sure seem to be a lot faster cars than high 9's running this setup? Doesn't Andy run this as well? I am pretty certain his has been mid 9's.
Posted By: Dave W

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 03:10 PM

Quote:

I haven't had a chance to get mine to the track yet but have logged about 700 street miles this year. It should run high 9's

ShadyDell 436ci W5 - 700hp and 4spd
Original full interior plus cage
Billet Specialty Streetlites 15x10's rear w/MT 275/60/15's and front runners on 3.5 rims
8 3/4 w/4.30's



Do you have any more pictures? Your ride is awesome!!!
Posted By: W5Duster436

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 03:19 PM

Rear

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Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 03:20 PM

Quote:

Quote:


very cool car, love the color. Glad you didn't change it. What suspension? It will be hard to run 9's on 275's, leaf springs and cal-trac's.



Yes it has mono-leafs and caltracs and drag radials. There sure seem to be a lot faster cars than high 9's running this setup? Doesn't Andy run this as well? I am pretty certain his has been mid 9's.



One way to find out...go and row the gears
Posted By: W5Duster436

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 03:21 PM

Front

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Posted By: StealthWedge67

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 03:45 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Obviously what everyone sees as a "real" or "true" street car can vary greatly and is a personal preference.

Pump gas
3.23 gear with Trutrac LS
1800 stall (stock converter)
Full interior
235/70/14, 255/60/15
No headers – full exhaust
3rd gear by 18 mph
Will drive very nicely at 1000 to 1100 rpm in third gear at 20 mph
No part throttle kick down
Fairly smooth shifting fully auto tranny
Manual steering

Drive to the track 65 miles one way without a tool, get directly in the staging lane without opening the hood or trunk, and run 11.70s at 118+ mph. Personally I prefer a better power to weight ratio (more mph) than a 60 ft. On the street, from anything other than a dead stop, the higher power to weight car is faster.

I think I drive it a lot (when it is running), but it actually comes out to about 2000 mile per year. It actually sits a lot in June, July and August between being too busy, or too hot.

I really would not change anything. The only thing that I’m wishing were different: the electric fuel pump (you can hear it at an idle) and the car drones a bit under load in the 1800 to 2100 rpm range.



That is freaking AWSOME!!!!
How the H--L did you get such outstanding power at such a low RPM???
Please share



Russ's last name is Dudek....... So it's in his blood. I think god blessed those Dudek boys with a 2-second advantage at birth. Seems everything they touch is at least 2 ticks faster than it should be by everyone elses standards.
Posted By: justinp61

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 04:21 PM

Here's mine.

69 Dart, 3260# with me in it, bolt on glass hood, glass front bumper, everything else is steel, all factory glass, heater, wipers, factory dash, radio that doens't work. The interior is stock except for the Kirkey seats, 6 point roll bar and shifter. It has the sub frame connectors, mini tubbed with a narrowed Dana with 4.10 gears, driveshaft look, aftermarket disks on both ends. Stock front suspension, split monos with Cal-tracs on the rear. It's powered by a pump gas 408, 10.9-1 compression, a Hughes flat solid cam, 260/264 @ .050, .628/.633 lift, ported Edelbrocks, Victor 340 intake with a Bigs 950 HP, 727 with a 9.5" Edge Racing converter that flashes 6000. Weld 15 X 3 in the front with 165 radials and 15 X 10 in the back.

So far it's ran 6.57 in the 1/8 with a 1.38 60' on 325/50 M/T E/T Street Radials. It goes straight as a string and pickes the front tires up about 8-10" and carries them out about 10' before sitting down.

I drive it quiet a bit weather permitting, it doesn't handle to bad. I wouldn't want to jump in it and go a long distnace, but it wasn't built for that.
Posted By: preddy

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 05:19 PM

I've been walking that line between street car and race car for years. There's 2 areas where I've had to make some compromises to keep it streetable: fuel and cooling. It's been a volume and reliability problem for the fuel. I'm not talking octane issues with the fuel. Keep your compression at a sane level and that shouldn't be a problem. I've been stranded two or three times by Holley Blue pumps failing. The solution is to put a rear sump in my stock tank and get the pump lower, I know that but I'm not there yet. I tried a Clay Smith mechanical pump and thought that solved my problem until last Sunday when I was racing and the mechanical pump wasn't delivering enough fuel. I went 11.57 on the mechanical, 11.05 @ 122 on the electric... to help it hook, my timing was retarded about 6 degree so I probably would have run low 10.90s with the timing where I normally keep it. I set it up so I can switch fuel pumps back and forth in about 5 minutes and I'm back to the electric for now...

The cooling issue "was" the other big problem for me. Sitting in traffic with an RB stroker was not fun. I found myself staring at the water temp gauge a lot. I tried flex fans, clutch fans, electric fans, pushers, pullers, different shrouds, etc. I finally solved it this Summer by getting my stock radiator re-cored and going to an SRT8 dual electric fan. A mechanical fan with a shroud would probably be fine with the re-cored radiator but, for racing, I want the electric fans to control engine temp between rounds. I can generally keep it cool on just one fan but if I get stuck in a half hour traffic jam like I did in Ocean City, MD 3 weeks ago, I can really keep the beast cool on 2. I also have a Moroso electric water pump. The kind that looks like heater motor. For short cruises I'm fine with that. For periods of extended street use, I'll change fan belts and use the stock mechanical water pump. Takes a few minutes to convert back and forth.

I've driven the car 60 miles each way to a car show several times. I won't lie, I have trailered it as well. It's got a full interior, AM/FM/CD/MP3 player, 4 speakers, no heater, working wipers, all working lights, full 3" exhaust with tail pipes, I put an 8 point roll bar in it so I can run 10s legally, I have a spool with 3:91s, Strange axles, 5/8 studs, 8 3/4 - 489 case, and it runs on 93 octane pump gas. I mix 110 purple 50/50 with pump gas when I race it just to be safe. M/T 10" slicks for racing. Radial street tires for the street.
Posted By: 383man

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 05:34 PM

And Joe (Preddy) is one very nice guy. Always a pleasure to talk with him at the track and always willing to help you out. Ron
Posted By: Kindafast

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 05:39 PM

Quote:

And Joe (Preddy) is one very nice guy. Always a pleasure to talk with him at the track and always willing to help you out. Ron



With a name like Joe he should be a nice guy. We all are.

Joe
Posted By: preddy

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 06:40 PM

Quote:

Quote:

And Joe (Preddy) is one very nice guy. Always a pleasure to talk with him at the track and always willing to help you out. Ron



With a name like Joe he should be a nice guy. We all are.

Joe



Hah! Ron, you're too kind... I guess it depends who you ask my wife might disagree!

Joe, I couldn't agree more...
Joe
Posted By: 540challenger

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 08:21 PM

Quote:

I've been walking that line between street car and race car for years. There's 2 areas where I've had to make some compromises to keep it streetable: fuel and cooling. It's been a volume and reliability problem for the fuel. I'm not talking octane issues with the fuel. Keep your compression at a sane level and that shouldn't be a problem. I've been stranded two or three times by Holley Blue pumps failing. The solution is to put a rear sump in my stock tank and get the pump lower, I know that but I'm not there yet. I tried a Clay Smith mechanical pump and thought that solved my problem until last Sunday when I was racing and the mechanical pump wasn't delivering enough fuel. I went 11.57 on the mechanical, 11.05 @ 122 on the electric... to help it hook, my timing was retarded about 6 degree so I probably would have run low 10.90s with the timing where I normally keep it. I set it up so I can switch fuel pumps back and forth in about 5 minutes and I'm back to the electric for now...

The cooling issue "was" the other big problem for me. Sitting in traffic with an RB stroker was not fun. I found myself staring at the water temp gauge a lot. I tried flex fans, clutch fans, electric fans, pushers, pullers, different shrouds, etc. I finally solved it this Summer by getting my stock radiator re-cored and going to an SRT8 dual electric fan. A mechanical fan with a shroud would probably be fine with the re-cored radiator but, for racing, I want the electric fans to control engine temp between rounds. I can generally keep it cool on just one fan but if I get stuck in a half hour traffic jam like I did in Ocean City, MD 3 weeks ago, I can really keep the beast cool on 2. I also have a Moroso electric water pump. The kind that looks like heater motor. For short cruises I'm fine with that. For periods of extended street use, I'll change fan belts and use the stock mechanical water pump. Takes a few minutes to convert back and forth.

I've driven the car 60 miles each way to a car show several times. I won't lie, I have trailered it as well. It's got a full interior, AM/FM/CD/MP3 player, 4 speakers, no heater, working wipers, all working lights, full 3" exhaust with tail pipes, I put an 8 point roll bar in it so I can run 10s legally, I have a spool with 3:91s, Strange axles, 5/8 studs, 8 3/4 - 489 case, and it runs on 93 octane pump gas. I mix 110 purple 50/50 with pump gas when I race it just to be safe. M/T 10" slicks for racing. Radial street tires for the street.



SRT 8 dual fan you say

Do you have any pics and know the dimensions of the fans, also what did you use to control the fans?


Thanks
Posted By: preddy

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 08:48 PM

Quote:


SRT 8 dual fan you say

Do you have any pics and know the dimensions of the fans, also what did you use to control the fans?




Yeah, an SRT8 fan fits almost perfectly over my 26" stock radiator. I got a used fan for $50. I had to make brackets to hold it but that was easy. Tell you what, I don't want to hijack 67Satty's thread, so I'll make a new thread and post some pics there.
Posted By: Thumperdart

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/28/11 09:00 PM

Street car means different things to different people so here`s my "street driven" car;
72 dart 3200 lbs race ready
470 stroker(400 block) w/12.1.1 comp. and I have driven on straight 91 but now I mix 50/50 w/110 trick leaded
no back seat,heater,wipers etc.
3 1/2" ft`s 12" rear pro-stars and Hoosier qtp`s out back
3 1/2" pipes coming off of my fenderwell headers
solid roller w/.680-.660 lift and 275-280 dur. @ .050
1050 dommy and an 8" vert feeding 4.11`s to the 8 3/4 rear......
driven hard and often and it`s being freshoned as we speak w/more head work and a new best 9.78 et to follow...........street car? you decide..........
Posted By: 72demon416

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/29/11 12:51 AM

My car could certainly be faster and run 9's if the car went on a little diet and I took racing more seriously, but I'm happy to run 10's or 11 whatevers on pump gas with my 440 W5 -and look like it should run 14's. I have a lot more fun keeping everything looking stock and driving the car a couple nights a week and every weekend as weather permits as opposed to being a race only ride that I would get very little seat time in
Posted By: W5Duster436

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/29/11 01:14 AM

Rick,
Your car IS sleeper badness!
You need to post an engine pic for all...

Quote:

My car could certainly be faster and run 9's if the car went on a little diet and I took racing more seriously, but I'm happy to run 10's or 11 whatevers on pump gas with my 440 W5 -and look like it should run 14's. I have a lot more fun keeping everything looking stock and driving the car a couple nights a week and every weekend as weather permits as opposed to being a race only ride that I would get very little seat time in

Posted By: 72demon416

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/29/11 01:50 AM

Thanks Kyle!
Yeah, I love it as a sleeper! with the exhaust I run on it most people don't even give it a second thought that it's anything other than a 340 and EVERYBODY thinks I'm nuts running e70-14's on it
What can I say-It's a riot

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Posted By: rickraw

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/29/11 03:15 AM

1971 demon. 440sb, w9's by shadydell, 11-1 comp, 730 solid roller, 1050 prosystem dominator, m1 intake, 904 tf w/brake, ford 9" w/456 pro gear, 33x18.5x 15 et streets. have 2 seats, working wipers, horn, no heater, full lighting. best et-9.61@137.91. pump gas engine. i drive my car about 1100 miles during the summer & hit the strip a few times also. checked milage- 10.5. stay safe, seeya.

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Posted By: David_in_St_Croi

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/29/11 04:32 AM

We use our 70 RR regularly. Has a 452 built by Performance Only, which has been a great engine, Tim Hyatt Mcleod based Soft Lock (Great Clutch, Tim is the man!!!!), S-60 with 4.30's and tru-trac. 23 spline foru speed, good thing I have the Hyatt clutch slipper clutch.

Unfortunately, it just ate a a lifter but until then was my daily driver. Suspension wise it has 1.00 inch torsion bars due to our roads, stock rear springs and standard replacement shocks. Manual steering, manual brakes. Pulled the heater box to save weight and give room under the dash. I loved dropping the exhaust, bolting on the collector extensions, loosening up the clutch, throwing the slicks and jack into the boot and head down to the track on its own tires under its own power (didn't always come home under its own power ) . Always impressed people at what it would run as the car is well known on St. Croix as a regular driver.

AT the track:


Not afraid to drive it:


Posted By: Darryls-Demon

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/29/11 04:32 AM

This I my winter work car. IMM built 408 SB with ported W2 heads 9.8 to 1 small solid roller cam, .240@.050 .630 lift victor intake 950 ultra HP.
904 trans 9.5 converter. Alum drive shaft, Moser 8 3/4 housing with alum center section with 3.73 gears {3.23s} for road trips. 275/60/15 Drag Radials.
Full interior {need to install radio} heater, wipers.
Manual brakes, manual steering (quick ratio box) I would not recommed it.
I did the car over the summer and Iam working the bugs out trying to get it ready for its first trip (las Vegas) next month.
After Vegas the plan is to get it to the track to see what it will run.

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Posted By: Blues_Cuda

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/29/11 05:19 AM

As stated above, there are some very nice and very quick cars on the board.

I built my wife's Barracuda as a street/strip car. It's not something I would want to hop in and drive 7 hours to the Mopar Nats, but I'm sure it would make it if I had the funds for fuel. It does see a lot of street duty around the general St. Louis area though.

Full steel '70 Barracuda with Gran Coupe interior, cast crank 440 with 10.4:1cr, 906 heads that flow .265 @ .600 lift, .588 Ultradyne solid cam, M1 intake, 850 AED Holley, 9.5" PTC converter, 727 w/ FWD pattern manual valve body and low band apply, 4.10 Powr Lok B-body Dana, heavy Magnum 500 wheels, 215/70s in front and 295/65 drag radials in back. Hooker Comp headers and a full TTI X-pipe exhaust. I added monoleafs, Caltracs, and adjustable Ranchos last year, but admit I have never gotten around to really messing with them since Gateway closed not too long afterwards. (I gave them some pre-load and ran it.)

Not sure what the car weighs...been meaning to take it to the scales to find out.

The car runs 11.50's @ 118 in full street trim including the baby seat in the back. Getting back to the suspension, it's obvious it is not optimized yet, for it only pulls a 1.68-1.78 60ft. There are a few other factors involved too...larger .960 torsion bars and regular gas shocks on the front of the car are not playing nice with the rest of the combo.

I've never heard the car open exhaust and have never run it without the air cleaner. I like the fact that the car is raced in the same exact configuration as you see it on the street.

Honestly, I don't want it to go any faster, for the car will never see a rollbar. ( I take that back...I want to see an 11.4x out it...I know it has it once the 60fts are where they should be.)

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Posted By: 10secGTX

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/29/11 07:24 AM

I'm trying to keep my car a street car but every time I go to the track...the tech guy disagrees with me..LOL
I have owned this car since Feb 1986 I was 17 when I bought it and what a ROLLER COASTER RIDE it has been.
I have 440 .040 over eagle rods JE pistons and a Low lash roller cam 585 lift 11.6 comp eddy heads tti headers victor intake 1000 hp re worked by (Cubic) a 904 w/ a 8" ati a dana 60 w/3.90 gears.

My best pass was 10.67 @ 125 w/o cage and it had a race exhaust & 4.10 spool 8 3/4.

2yrs ago I put the full exhaust on a 3.73 sure grip and went 10.67 @ 123 1.45 60'

Now I have a cage and a DANA and it slowed to 10.82 @ 122 ...But I drive it when its nice out, my goal now is drive it to the track reset tire pressure run a 10...what ever and drive home

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Posted By: BSB67

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/29/11 01:18 PM

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That is freaking AWSOME!!!!
How the H--L did you get such outstanding power at such a low RPM???
Please share



Russ's last name is Dudek....... So it's in his blood. I think god blessed those Dudek boys with a 2-second advantage at birth. Seems everything they touch is at least 2 ticks faster than it should be by everyone elses standards.




I was actually born and raised in the Detroit area, but no relation to Dave. It is simply amazing how often when talking to vendors or professional equipment/service providers in the sport they would say to me…”hey, you related to Dave?” I’m sure Dave gets that all the time too.



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It's 500ci with E heads according to the signature, but more info on the combo would sure be appreciated




There is nothing special about this motor or car. I spend a lot of time on the details of the build, tuning and track time.

Short block: 4.25" arm, 7.10 rod, 4.360" dia/1.49 CH Diamond piston. Zeroish deck, 10.7-10.8 CR. Well massaged high pressure standard rotor oil pump, 1/2" PU, scraper, std stroke windage tray, and Hemi oil pan. Stud kit and .25" girdle. Full time unrestricted rocker oiling and selected main oil passages enlarged. Relieved the block for valve clearance.

Heads: Mopar (Eddy) MCH CNC std. port and valves. Isky 9315 springs. 90cc chambers.

Valve train: Comp custom solid roller (Dwyane Porter) w/ "lollypop" lobes, bushed ProMagnums, Isky rollers.

General Stuff: 440-2D intake, aftermarket 950 HP Holley, exhaust port window opened up on manifolds, 2.5 TTI w/ UltraFlos. 1800 rpm converter, CRT full auto street tranny with steel drum. Battery in trunk. Wilwood front disc brakes. Mopar distributor w/ MSD 6A.

And, you don't need a roller cam to get this power level. This cam is very mild. Wayne has gone faster, and Tony quicker with similar manifold builds using solid flat tappet cams.

The car's best 60 ft is 1.87 sec. Obviously no secret supension stuff going on here.

http://508charger.yolasite.com/
Posted By: ZIPPY

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/29/11 02:41 PM

The MCH ported heads and Porter camshaft are the pieces that stand out slightly (JMO) but your tuning skills have got alot to do with it as well.

Great job with it

Dwayne also hooked me up with a nice grind using the .420 endurance lobe design. Runs great.
Posted By: greenmcode

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/29/11 02:52 PM

I drive my Road Runner a few hundred miles a season
plus 60 or so runs at the track..
The car is show room correct not on a diet in anyway 3920
with me in the car and a mild 440 6bbl..
Best et to date 11.74@117.05 1.74 60' on bias ply tire..



Posted By: BSB67

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/29/11 03:23 PM

Thanks.

Yeah, the -5s are easy on parts.
Posted By: scatpacktom

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/29/11 03:38 PM

Bsb67 and FatA12 Very impressive and very streetable
Posted By: BSB67

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/29/11 03:38 PM

Nice. I'm thinking about going to G/70/14 bias ply red lines and maybe a converter change to 2200 to 2400. I think that I might be able to get to 1.80 maybe high 1.70s.

What stall do you have?
Posted By: BSB67

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/29/11 03:41 PM

Thanks Tom.
Posted By: 383man

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/29/11 04:42 PM

"BSB67" I have always been impressed with your combo. Definetly a cool sleeper. I also have my heads worked and my cam speced by Dwayne Porter. Everytime I see a car that Dwayne has done work to the car always run real good. That one of the reasons I used Dwaynes head and cam service and they work great. Is the 440-2 a dual plane intake as I seem to have forgot without looking it up ?


"Greenmcode" I really like your Roadrunner alot. Thats one of if not my favorite color combo on a 69 Runner. If I ever have enough money to buy more Mopars a 69-1/2 six pack Runner would be top on my list as I really like the 69-1/2 six pack runners and yours looks great ! Ron
Posted By: Mick70RR

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/29/11 05:31 PM

I drive my car to work every day for 8 months of the year. I run it at the drag strip exactly as I drive it there, no slicks or drag radials. Runs consistent low 12's with a best of 11.98 @ 117.

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Posted By: RemCharger

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/29/11 07:41 PM

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The car's best 60 ft is 1.87 sec. Obviously no secret supension stuff going on here.

http://508charger.yolasite.com/


Our times are close, it would be a cool race. Last time out I ran 1.84 11.61 @ 121.8.
Why do you run the stock convertor?
Posted By: BSB67

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/29/11 07:51 PM

Ron - Thanks

It is the Indy dual plane. I see that you are using a spacer with yours. If it is not an "open" spacer, I suggest that you try it.

Posted By: BSB67

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/29/11 08:04 PM

You've got serious steam on the big end.

I did not want to buy a converter for the motor until I ran it first to better determine what to buy, and this is what I had. I thought that with the bigger motor it would stall higher than the 440 it was behind before. I was mistaken
Posted By: RemCharger

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/29/11 08:24 PM

Yea, I would think with a 4500 8" ati or similar, you'd be around 11.20s? Then you might be looking into some "secret suspension" stuff.
Mines done caveman style,,, Big heads, cam, high rpm. Not much of street motor, But if I could afford the 13 bucks a gallon all day, I'd get some ice cream with it for sure.
Posted By: 340_Dart

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/29/11 10:37 PM

My Dart "street car" has been 11.20s @ 119mph exactly how i drive it on the street. Air cleaner and all...

9.8:1 416 with W2's
Edelbrock victor intake
.570" flat tappet solid cam
727 with 4200 converter
4.10 gears
255/60/15 MT drag radials

Car weighs 3350 w/ me in it.

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Posted By: 72demon416

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/29/11 11:17 PM

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My Dart "street car" has been 11.20s @ 119mph exactly how i drive it on the street. Air cleaner and all...

9.8:1 416 with W2's
Edelbrock victor intake
.570" flat tappet solid cam
727 with 4200 converter
4.10 gears
255/60/15 MT drag radials

Car weighs 3350 w/ me in it.



And thats exactly where your Dart should be- on the street! a car as nice as yours needs to be out there to be seen and enjoyed by all!
Posted By: 383man

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/30/11 05:33 AM

Allmost forgot about my boys Dart. It is a street car and he can drive it anywhere.

Pump gas 400 in his 72 Dart.
Stock stroke 400 that has .030 over KB pistons (406 cubes)
Crank and rods are stock
MP .557 cam
Eddy RPM heads
Eddy Performer RPM intake with a 750 DP
Stock electronic dist I worked and MSD box
CPPA 2" headers and 3" exh
727 with manual v/b and Dynamic 9.5 converter
3.91 gears and he uses 26 x 9.5 Hoosier QTP tires
Weighs 3550 with him in the car
Full interior all stock body
Stock suspension with SS springs and 90/10 shocks up front.
Driven to the track the same as me.

Best et 11.45 @ 117 , Ron





Posted By: Randy..

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/30/11 06:38 AM

well after my last toy 95 Dakota 5.9 5spd 3.91s big cam headers big injectors bla bla bla, it ran 8.12 in the 1/8 granny shifting the stock NV at 5100, cam was good to 6200, had a blast driving it and won't own another hot rod with a loose TQ and deep gears, my Valiant will have 3.54s a tight 9.5 converter and 9.0 440 with a pair of 76mm turbos, set at 10/12 lb [image]http://[/image] s of boost, and gonna drive the crap out of it.
Posted By: 383man

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 10/31/11 03:38 PM

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Ron - Thanks

It is the Indy dual plane. I see that you are using a spacer with yours. If it is not an "open" spacer, I suggest that you try it.






Yes its a 1" open spacer of the plastic type. They really help against the hot soak in the hot summer months also. Ron


Posted By: QWK_ENUF

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 11/01/11 12:03 AM

1975 PLYMOUTH DUSTER, 2 DR, POP OUT ¼ WINDOWS

ALL LIGHTS ARE FUNCTIONAL AND CAR IS CURRENTLY TITLED, PLATED, AND INSURED

WELD RACING DRAGLITES, 2 X 3.5 FRONTS, 2 X 12 REARS, AND HOOSIER 29/12 SLICKS AND HOOSIER FRONTS . HOOSIER 325/50-15 DOT FOR THE STREET

HOOKER FENDERWELL HEADERS, JET HOT COATED, 3 IN EXHAUST WITH BULLETS

15 GAL ALUMINUM FUEL CELL, ALUMINUM BATTERY BOX, 2 HOLLEY FUER PUMPS AND FRAM FILTORS, 2 HOLLEY REG


FRONT SHEETMETAL IS 1973 DUSTER, GLASS FRONT AND REAR BUMPERS,
PAINT IS BLACK WITH SILVER, PURPLE, PINK, AND BLUE GRAPHICS

MSD 6AL, START/RETARD BOX, PRO BILLET DIZZY, NEW CAP/ROTOR/WIRES

FRESH MOTOR THIS YEAR
MOTOR: 511 CI, 400 BLOCK .030, 4.25 STROKE (4340 FORGED), ELGIN H-BEAM RODS, ROSS F.T.FORGED PISTONS, ALUMINUM VALVE COVERS, MAINS ARE STUDDED, ZERO DECK, LINE BORED AND HONED
DOUG HERBERT ROLLER CAM, SPRINGS, AND LIFTERS, BRONZE GEAR
640 LIFT, 260/272 DUR, 1.6 ROCKERS (HUGHES), .080 PUSHRODS
VICTOR HEADS, HEAD STUD KIT, M-1 INTAKE, 1050 HP 3 CIR DOMINATOR (SET UP FOR E-85)
PETE JACKSON GEAR DRIVE
MILODON PAN, EXTERNAL OILING, SWINGING PICK UP, HUGHES GIRDLE, ALUMINUM TIMING COVERS, ALUMINUM WATERPUMP AND PUMP HOUSING
19 X 27 ALUMINUM RADIATOR, DUAL FAN/SHROUD COMBO, 160 deg T-STAT,

TRANS: 727 TF, LOW GEAR SET, BILLIT DRUM, BOLT IN SPRAG, TRANS BRAKE WITH LOW BAND APPLY, DEEP PAN, TCI ALUMINUM SHIELD, RELOCATED VENT, TRANS COOLER
PTC 8 in CONVERTOR WITH BILLET CORE, 5500 STALL,
SUPERIOR DRIVE SHAFT WITH 4150 U-JOINTS

DANA 60, 35 SPLINE, SPOOL, 4:10 PRO GEAR, DISC BRAKES, CHROME COVER, QA1 SINGLE ADJ COILOVERS

M II RACK/QA1 SINGLE ADJ COILOVERS, GM METRIC FRONT BRAKES, M II SPINDLES, TRAVEL LIMITERS

10 PT, SWING OUTS, ALUMINUM SEATS, STOCK REAR SEAT WITH CARPET, FULL INTERIOR
B&M SHIFTER, VDO AND AUTOMETER GAUGES


PERFORMANCE:

BEST ET: 9.81
BEST MPH: 134.54
BEST 60: 1.29


ON E85

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Posted By: QWK_ENUF

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 11/01/11 12:08 AM

BEST OF 10.30 WITH DOT's

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Posted By: moparniac

Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage - 11/01/11 12:30 AM

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