W9 Headers Pics.., Advice?

Posted By: Hot 340

W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/01/11 03:08 PM

I will be contemplating this in the future on a stock Abody chassis.I will get them done by a header builder of course. just trying to get info here before I do and see some pics and suggestions. Thanks.

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/01/11 03:13 PM

Here's my W-9 header... these are a 3 step

Posted By: Hot 340

Re: W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/01/11 03:19 PM

Did you have to trim those flanges, or just preference? Nice job. Thermostat housing looks great too.

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/01/11 03:25 PM

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Did you have to trim those flanges, or just preference? Nice job. Thermostat housing looks great too.

Trim the flanges? thats the way I made them... not
sure what you get when you buy them... I also have
a couple sets of SS flanges purchased from a member
here but they are all one piece... myself I would
cut them into 3 pieces for expansion (like mine)

Posted By: Hot 340

Re: W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/01/11 03:28 PM

Oh I see. I'll bet they seal better that way too. What are the ports on the top by the head?

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/01/11 03:33 PM

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Oh I see. I'll bet they seal better that way too. What are the ports on the top by the head?

You mean the casting bumps between the headers...
those are for injection
EDIT
If you are talking the bungs on the headers, those
are for EGTs... I put them on all the headers I made
unless not wanted

Posted By: Hot 340

Re: W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/01/11 03:34 PM

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Oh I see. I'll bet they seal better that way too. What are the ports on the top by the head?

You mean the casting bumps between the headers...
those are for injection

No I mean on top of the tubes, maybe some kind of egt sensor?

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/01/11 03:38 PM

I edited my post... they are EGTs

Posted By: Hot 340

Re: W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/01/11 03:39 PM

[quoteEDIT
If you are talking the bungs on the headers, those
are for EGTs... I put them on all the headers I made
unless not wanted

Thanks!

Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/01/11 05:08 PM

Just my

You can get a set of TTI's for W2 or W5 in raw form (uncoated) And cut the flange off, and weld a W9 flange on. To save some money.

Once the Flange is cut off the tubes move around enough to mate up with W9 ports.

Posted By: 340Cuda

Re: W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/01/11 06:27 PM

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Just my

You can get a set of TTI's for W2 or W5 in raw form (uncoated) And cut the flange off, and weld a W9 flange on. To save some money.

Once the Flange is cut off the tubes move around enough to mate up with W9 ports.

Jesse,
Is this something you have done, seen done or just figure would work?
Thanks,
Bill

Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/01/11 07:17 PM

I did it years ago on Aluminum block W9 setup I was going to use in my duster. But I changed directions. It worked great and was very simple if you have fab/welding skills...

Posted By: Hot 340

Re: W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/01/11 08:10 PM

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I did it years ago on Aluminum block W9 setup I was going to use in my duster. But I changed directions. It worked great and was very simple if you have fab/welding skills...

Jesse, did you use a motor plate? I have tti w2's, but the exhaust port is very high on a 9, also the heads look wider.

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/01/11 09:22 PM

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I did it years ago on Aluminum block W9 setup I was going to use in my duster. But I changed directions. It worked great and was very simple if you have fab/welding skills...

Jesse, did you use a motor plate? I have tti w2's, but the exhaust port is very high on a 9, also the heads look wider.

For a mock up I would set the engine in place and see
if your W-2 headers line up... I have cut flanges off
and welded on different ones... just make sure they
clear

Posted By: Hot 340

Re: W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/01/11 10:35 PM

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I did it years ago on Aluminum block W9 setup I was going to use in my duster. But I changed directions. It worked great and was very simple if you have fab/welding skills...

Jesse, did you use a motor plate? I have tti w2's, but the exhaust port is very high on a 9, also the heads look wider.

For a mock up I would set the engine in place and see
if your W-2 headers line up... I have cut flanges off
and welded on different ones... just make sure they
clear

Sounds like its worth checking out. I plan on going with 440+ cubes, dont know at what line a bigger tube would be beneficial. Thanks for the info guys.

Posted By: dizuster

Re: W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/01/11 11:44 PM

The w9 exhaust port is DEFINATELY higher then a w2/w5. You'd have to be careful about clearance to the rest of the suspension if you were going to do that.

It's the same reason a -1 Indy Big Block header is different from a conventional head, and drove Indy to create EZ line of heads.

I've yet to see a set of w2/w5 headers, actually put into a car with w8/w9 heads. You'd think if it was that easy, TTI would just weld on different flanges, and market them to us...

Not saying it can't be done, I'm just saying be careful before you blow a bunch of money on a set of headers that won't actually fit in the car...

Posted By: RyanJ

Re: W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/02/11 12:01 AM

biggest problem with putting W2 headers on W8/9 is plug clearance especially on 5/7. The plug location & angle on an 8/9 is so far from any normal 18 degree head that plug wire access is tough. I had Heddman W2 headers on my old W8 motor with modified flanges & had to install plug wires on 5/7 from under the car with a pair of needle nose pliers.

& then the biggest problem with trying to do a set of TTI's is they are very restrictive for a 680+ HP motor, so what's point of building a killer W9 motor & bottle neck it with a restrictive TTI header?

If you're gonna try to use an off shelf header & mod it, I'd do a 2" tube Heddman W2 & start with that.

Posted By: fishy340

Re: W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/02/11 12:11 AM

1 simple word (CUSTOM)

Posted By: Hot 340

Re: W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/02/11 12:13 AM

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biggest problem with putting W2 headers on W8/9 is plug clearance especially on 5/7. The plug location & angle on an 8/9 is so far from any normal 18 degree head that plug wire access is tough. I had Heddman W2 headers on my old W8 motor with modified flanges & had to install plug wires on 5/7 from under the car with a pair of needle nose pliers.

& then the biggest problem with trying to do a set of TTI's is they are very restrictive for a 680+ HP motor, so what's point of building a killer W9 motor & bottle neck it with a restrictive TTI header?

If you're gonna try to use an off shelf header & mod it, I'd do a 2" tube Heddman W2 & start with that.

I forgot you telling me about the plug problems it would have. Who builds a nice header within reasonable driving distance of western Pa?

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/02/11 12:35 AM

If you want PM me and I'll run your engine through
my header program... I'll need info

Posted By: robnbird

Re: W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/02/11 01:16 AM

Sooooon; if it run as good as it looks!

Posted By: DemonDust

Re: W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/02/11 07:47 AM

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The w9 exhaust port is DEFINATELY higher then a w2/w5. You'd have to be careful about clearance to the rest of the suspension if you were going to do that.

You are correct

I had a engine plate on it and dropped the engine down til everything worked. Don't remember how much but I know it wasn't all that much. It did work just took some time.

Yes the headers aren't the greatest but I had them so I used em. And the reason I said TTI is I know they offer their headers bare, so you don't have to worry about ceramic or any other material to burn thru when welding.

Didn't say it was the best way, just one of many ways to do it.....

Posted By: Hot 340

Re: W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/03/11 12:40 AM

So anybody got any pics of their custom headers on a stock chassis?

Posted By: mrsmallblock

Re: W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/03/11 02:58 AM

for nice headers, contact steve kahiler in frackville, PA. 570-874-3591.

howard

Posted By: emarine01

Re: W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/03/11 03:10 AM

Hum.... Nice headers Mike

Got anything in a 2" W5 flange laying around?

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W9 Headers Pics.., Advice? - 01/03/11 04:01 AM

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Hum.... Nice headers Mike Got anything in a 2" W5 flange laying around?

I have a set of 1 7/8" for W-5s but they are going
on my Rampage till I get around to making something
else