WOT troubles with SV1

Posted By: moparniac

WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/02/10 09:18 PM

Cable is pulled real tight and when the ideal is bottomed out on floorboard carb is open about 3/4? I have one of those jegs style lokar cable setup ... I've seen some of you guys bending that front area down on the throttle bracket... Will this gve me leverage fir WOT? Thx

Posted By: blownzoom440

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/02/10 09:33 PM

no other holes in the carb lever to quickin the ratio?

Posted By: cheapstreetdustr

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/02/10 09:42 PM

you need to find a mounting point on the carb lever closer to the fulcrum (center pivot point) to get more ratio of pedal lever to throttle lever..
cheapst

Posted By: The Duster

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/02/10 10:29 PM

Check this thread out for some info for the throttle cable angle.

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=5991450

Posted By: sixpackgut

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/03/10 12:17 AM

bend your gas pedal or change ratio at pedal

Posted By: Cudahlr

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/03/10 12:38 AM

I tried a lokar cable on my car once, and could never get it to work correctly, i think it was stretching.

Posted By: moparniac

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/03/10 12:40 AM

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bend your gas pedal or change ratio at pedal

Ray this is my next step....... cable wouldnt get WOT at any position.... I cant put the throttle cable on the bottom front hole (towards rad) cause the pump arm hits it.... red arrows shows where i had everything first!

Posted By: blownzoom440

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/03/10 12:51 AM

it does look like the cable needs to be lower in the bracket to pull the throttle 90* from idle position.

[even with the carb shaft pivot]

Posted By: dc426

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/03/10 01:28 AM

you have the cable pin in the wrong hole. It needs to be in the hole closest to the fulcrum.
DC

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Posted By: dc426

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/03/10 01:31 AM

Looking at your picture I just noticed your red arrows. I'm now thinking that your throttle cable bracket is the problem. I think you're going to have to change to a different style brack

Posted By: Anonymous

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Posted By: Kevins493

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/03/10 01:58 AM

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you have the cable pin in the wrong hole. It needs to be in the hole closest to the fulcrum.
DC

me thinks the opposite raise the bracket and use the higest hole. it gives the most leverage

doesn't seem like leverage is the issue. if he wants to move it more for a given amount of pedal (cable) travel, he needs it in the hole closest to the pivot. Kinda like when you put a smaller pulley on a blower. It moves the rotors more (spins faster) than a large one.

Posted By: moparniac

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/03/10 02:06 AM

as stated earlier........ I cant get in that bottom front hole..... the pump arm comes up and hits the bolt! this is the bracket patrick recomends on hi site....

Posted By: dc426

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/03/10 02:08 AM

If It were me, I'd call Patrick and discuss it with him. If that carb has the same ratio as all dominators (which it probably does) it needs to be in that bottom hole.

Posted By: moparniac

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/03/10 02:14 AM

i used this bracket with no problems with my bigs dominator in the upper hole....... something is definately different

also being on the front center hole did open it up more. but evn if the pedal didnt bottom out I think it would be out of travel anyways cause it ends up parralel with the cable.... dang bracket was $85

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/03/10 02:27 AM

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as stated earlier........ I cant get in that bottom front hole..... the pump arm comes up and hits the bolt! this is the bracket patrick recomends on hi site....

Can you cut the stud shorter to clear... its either you
add more length (travel)to the gas pedal or you need
to get it in that lower hole on the carb... also lower
the cable mount (its to high)... might even need
to bend that cable mount down for a better angle

Posted By: Thumperdart

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/03/10 02:40 AM

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you have the cable pin in the wrong hole. It needs to be in the hole closest to the fulcrum.
DC

me thinks the opposite raise the bracket and use the higest hole. it gives the most leverage

Exactly.........that worked on my dommy w/the billet Jegs bracket.....

Posted By: bigtimeauto

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/03/10 04:37 AM

Throw the cable out and fit your car with a solid rod.

Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/03/10 04:40 AM

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Throw the cable out and fit your car with a solid rod.

Posted By: moparniac

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/03/10 08:35 AM

I can bolt it to the front lower hole. the problem is when you open the throttle the pump arm come up and interfers with the bolt righ away......

Posted By: Satanized_68

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/03/10 09:06 AM

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I can bolt it to the front lower hole. the problem is when you open the throttle the pump arm come up and interfers with the bolt righ away......

I have a SV-1 and the Jegs bracket, I removed the pump arm and cut it off (shortened it) about 1/2".
That way I can use the lowest bolt hole.
Very easy to do and it won't compromise the strenght of the pump arm one bit as that overhang is not needed on that side but on the other side of the carb it is.
I guess they made them the same lenght on both sides just to make production simpler (just one arm instead of having to make two)

Posted By: moparniac

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/03/10 09:10 AM

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Throw the cable out and fit your car with a solid rod.

already got $130 into this hi tech setup

Dominick I used the setup on the top hole with my last dominator with no issues ... This thing is kicking my but down to the last parts...

Posted By: Thumperdart

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/03/10 03:42 PM

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Throw the cable out and fit your car with a solid rod.

already got $130 into this hi tech setup

Dominick I used the setup on the top hole with my last dominator with no issues ... This thing is kicking my but down to the last parts...

That`s cos you`ve got all of that hi-tech stuff going on now.............

You will figure it out............

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/03/10 03:51 PM

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Throw the cable out and fit your car with a solid rod.

already got $130 into this hi tech setup

Dominick I used the setup on the top hole with my last dominator with no issues ... This thing is kicking my but down to the last parts...

If the pedal worked with the dom... measure the difference
between the length of the 2 arms(to the holes) to
see what ratio you need

Posted By: demon440

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/03/10 04:50 PM

I don't know how to fix it, but that thing
looks cool.
Hope you get it running, I might buy one
for my street car.
Would like to hear some real world experiences.

Posted By: moparniac

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/03/10 05:53 PM

I just bent the darn pedal up an used the top hole on the carb...... it opens up full throttle but pedal seems a tad high..... it doable though! this pedal is real short also so im gonna change that...... all I have to do is put the dang 2 1/8th inch headers in now...... then prime it again and fire it up

FWIW i bent the front part of the bracket down some and didnt like it! it would see saw that cable in half over time so heck with that... anyone else get a SV1 over time avoid this bracket IMO.....

Posted By: Satanized_68

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/03/10 09:02 PM

...or you could have taken my advice and spent 5 to 10 minutes max and the pump arm would have cleared the lower hole with no problems whatsoever.

I do have the exact same setup as you do; SV1, Jegs bracket and Lokar cable and it works perfect.

Posted By: demon440

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/04/10 04:24 AM

Show us a pic of your set-up.
Also, how do you like the carb?

Posted By: moparniac

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/04/10 01:04 PM

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...or you could have taken my advice and spent 5 to 10 minutes max and the pump arm would have cleared the lower hole with no problems whatsoever.

I do have the exact same setup as you do; SV1, Jegs bracket and Lokar cable and it works perfect.

mine will not bolt in that front lower hole(toward rad). you say yours does? when the throttle opens up the pump arm lifts and hits the bolt..

did you use higher spacers for the bracket? thx

Posted By: moparniac

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/04/10 01:59 PM

see pic as I ground that part of the pump arm down that was interfering with my dremel and it clears now... maybe that hole was mis drilled....... now I just goota fix the darn header issue! made a bug difference being on that hole..... gotta lower my pedal back down now

Posted By: dc426

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/04/10 06:18 PM

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see pic as I ground that part of the pump arm down that was interfering with my dremel and it clears now... maybe that hole was mis drilled....... now I just goota fix the darn header issue! made a bug difference being on that hole..... gotta lower my pedal back down now

Posted By: moparniac

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/08/10 01:34 PM

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If It were me, I'd call Patrick and discuss it with him. If that carb has the same ratio as all dominators (which it probably does) it needs to be in that bottom hole.

I just emailed patrick over this for information purposes..... he told me it needed to be in the middle hole and was gonna eliminate the lower hole and adding another hole...also said not to use the lower hole.

Posted By: DaKuda

Re: WOT troubles with SV1 - 06/08/10 01:47 PM

I trash the cables and build solid adjustable linkage. Problem solved.