Posted By: WILD BILL
Car went down the track - 04/18/10 02:49 AM
Any one care to hear or are you guys sick of me yet?
Car went down the track
Posted By: rickstershemi
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 02:51 AM
Not Funny 
Rickster
Rickster
Posted By: max_maniac
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 02:51 AM
Everyone got tired of waitng and went to bed........... hope you changed your shorts 
Russ
Russ
Posted By: dennismopar73
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 02:51 AM
we have all been waiting 
Posted By: blown572dart
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 02:52 AM
Posted By: tboomer
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 02:52 AM
Spill the beans....Or else Blue Bill Will turn into Pink Bill!! 
Posted By: 9 Sec Phill
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 02:52 AM
Well.....
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 02:53 AM
Well would you care to tell us how your day went
Posted By: tboomer
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 02:55 AM
You have five minutes....
Posted By: max_maniac
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 02:56 AM
Quote:
You have five minutes....
You are too easy on him Ted.....
Posted By: tboomer
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 02:58 AM
The clock is tickin... 
Posted By: tboomer
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:00 AM
2....
Posted By: Sport440
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:02 AM
Bill, Come on!!,, We have all been waiting. 
If things didnt go as planned or they went better then planned spill the bean weave, well Ive been watching all night. 
mike
If things didnt go as planned or they went better then planned spill the bean weave, well Ive been watching all night. mike
Posted By: tboomer
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:03 AM
Times up!! Here it comes!!
Posted By: Chad Bittle
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:04 AM
Been waiting also....hell we planned a trip up tomorrow we're so curious, haha.
Posted By: dennismopar73
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:05 AM
Posted By: Kam*Kuda
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:05 AM
Come on. Lets hear how the big blue did?
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:07 AM
Come on PINKY we dont have all night
Posted By: tboomer
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:07 AM
Pink Bill!!
Posted By: DoubleD
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:08 AM
Quote:
Times up!! Here it comes!!
Oh No he has to wear the dress again
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Posted By: Quicktree
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:09 AM
you are killing us 
Posted By: WILD BILL
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:10 AM
Made 3 passes today, first pass I left the launch and shift settings the same as last year, 3600 and 5800. I shifted real lazy too and it went a 10.47@124mph. Carried the front end good as I felt it come back down. 1.43 60'
Next run we bumped up to 4200 and 6600 and it spun bad off the line. 1.52 60' and ran 10.64@124mph
Last pass we dropped the tires down to 8 psi and got it to hook better, Went 1.49 60' and 10.53@125mph.
We think the conv might be to loose as I'm turning 7600-7700 rpm at the stripe and a soft luanch and short shifting netted the best ET.
I wanted to make another pass but had to get Taylor some runs W her new motor. She lifted big time on the first pass and went 9.60.
Next pass I jetted it up as it was a little lean and she ran it hard but I know she didn't run it all out. Went 8.71 @ 65 mph. Now she used to run 9.20's @ 68 mph so I know she didn't stay in it.
Dying to see how much I'm gonna need to slow her down
Next run we bumped up to 4200 and 6600 and it spun bad off the line. 1.52 60' and ran 10.64@124mph
Last pass we dropped the tires down to 8 psi and got it to hook better, Went 1.49 60' and 10.53@125mph.
We think the conv might be to loose as I'm turning 7600-7700 rpm at the stripe and a soft luanch and short shifting netted the best ET.
I wanted to make another pass but had to get Taylor some runs W her new motor. She lifted big time on the first pass and went 9.60.
Next pass I jetted it up as it was a little lean and she ran it hard but I know she didn't run it all out. Went 8.71 @ 65 mph. Now she used to run 9.20's @ 68 mph so I know she didn't stay in it.
Dying to see how much I'm gonna need to slow her down
Posted By: Dart1031
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:10 AM
C'mon all ready!
Posted By: B1Fish540
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:11 AM
well do the dyno numbers lie or not? 
Posted By: max_maniac
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:11 AM
Quote:Quote:
Times up!! Here it comes!!
Oh No he has to wear the dress again
Is that SFI certified
it looks to be his size
Posted By: WILD BILL
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:13 AM
Dam Ted, I had a lot to type and had to chase down the time slips so I had everything accurate.
Posted By: dennismopar73
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:13 AM
he posted at 10 min till
now 13 min past the hour
he is just sitting there watching these replies
laughing ay us
knowing it is eating at us
now 13 min past the hour
he is just sitting there watching these replies
laughing ay us
knowing it is eating at us
Posted By: tboomer
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:15 AM
You are forgiven,My freind!! 
Everything will be better by morning!! Serious...What is the convertor??
Everything will be better by morning!! Serious...What is the convertor??
Posted By: WILD BILL
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:17 AM
Conv is a borrowed TA 8"
I was really hoping it would like the new set up but I guess you can't have everything.
I was really hoping it would like the new set up but I guess you can't have everything.
Posted By: max_maniac
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:20 AM
Bill, glad to hear it went down the track and you didn't break anything. Now the fun part is coming trying to get it tuned just right and trying different launch and shifting patterns to see what works best. I do think you are spinning it way too much at the top end.
Russ
Russ
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:20 AM
Quote:
Conv is a borrowed TA 8"
I was really hoping it would like the new set up but I guess you can't have everything.
What did it flash to with the new set up... the MPH
and ET fall in line(within 1 MPH)
Posted By: tboomer
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:25 AM
What was the T/A convertor designed for..PS...You are Blue again!!
Posted By: moparacer
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:27 AM
7700 at the stripe??
WAT?!?!
Like, not planning on doing that too many times are ya?
Whats the gear ratio and tire size on your combo?
124 does seem close for mid 10's. A little shy but close.
I just went 10.79 @ 122 in my old car today.
WAT?!?!
Like, not planning on doing that too many times are ya?
Whats the gear ratio and tire size on your combo?
124 does seem close for mid 10's. A little shy but close.
I just went 10.79 @ 122 in my old car today.
Posted By: Thumperdart
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:27 AM
Well, at least you got some data to work with for next time. What were your increments when you went that 10.96 and the 11 0`s.
Posted By: WILD BILL
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:32 AM
I was turing 120 when made that 10.96 pass.
Tires are 31's and gears are 4:56's.
Half a second for 5 mph seems a little off to me?
Tires are 31's and gears are 4:56's.
Half a second for 5 mph seems a little off to me?
Posted By: Thumperdart
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:34 AM
Hard to say exactly what happened but the mph and et do seem close to right on. Granted a converter can make a big difference but to go from mid 10`s to the predicted low 9`s is doubtfull. Not baggin just stating my opinion. On a good note you destroyed your old et and have a new best w/more to come. Oh, and your 8 3/4 held up just like I knew that it would.
Posted By: Quicktree
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:36 AM
well I was pretty dang close with my 10.60 guess but I know you have a bunch more in it when you get everything sorted out. really not bad for your first time out. you will figure it out
Posted By: WILD BILL
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:41 AM
Thanks guys. I do appreciate the kind words
However, both Scott and I had our thoughts on what it would run and both of us are diassapointed at this point.
I know first hand how much difference a conv can make. I saw it happen when my old one went away.
I personally think there is more in this.
However, both Scott and I had our thoughts on what it would run and both of us are diassapointed at this point.
I know first hand how much difference a conv can make. I saw it happen when my old one went away.
I personally think there is more in this.
Posted By: 727builder
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:41 AM
Best part is... It's all still in one piece. 
Glad the 8 3/4 help up. I would be planning a dana for her soon. Who won with the closest guess? 
Glad the 8 3/4 help up. I would be planning a dana for her soon. Who won with the closest guess?
Posted By: dennismopar73
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:42 AM
mph slow
et off
way to rpms
i drove car last year 67 coronet 3800# 440
ran 11.13 best at 122+ mph
rpms around 6850
but it wouldnt move out gate 60 ft was horriable
best 156
sound like got just a little more work to do bill,
converter /tranny issue
i am still going to stick with my predictions
about the combo once it gets right
et off
way to rpms
i drove car last year 67 coronet 3800# 440
ran 11.13 best at 122+ mph
rpms around 6850
but it wouldnt move out gate 60 ft was horriable
best 156
sound like got just a little more work to do bill,
converter /tranny issue
i am still going to stick with my predictions
about the combo once it gets right
Posted By: WILD BILL
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:46 AM
I better not have tranny issues 
Is there a way to remove the conv with out pulling the trans
Is there a way to remove the conv with out pulling the trans
Posted By: Quicktree
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:48 AM
Quote:
I better not have tranny issues
Is there a way to remove the conv with out pulling the trans
why you should an expert at that
no not unless you pull the motor or use your sawzall
Posted By: moparacer
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:48 AM
Yea with that gear and tire you dont need a calculator to figure the converter slip is way out in left field...
Why spend the $$$ on a new mill then use a borrowed converter?
Get a good converter in that thing!
Why spend the $$$ on a new mill then use a borrowed converter?
Get a good converter in that thing!
Posted By: WILD BILL
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:52 AM
I'm just sick of pulling the trans 
I used it becuase it was what we had. Took a gamble and lost. Nothing ventured nothing gained right. Could have just as easily gone our way but oh well.
If nothing else we'll have that much more data to get the right conv built for it.
I used it becuase it was what we had. Took a gamble and lost. Nothing ventured nothing gained right. Could have just as easily gone our way but oh well.
If nothing else we'll have that much more data to get the right conv built for it.
Posted By: dennismopar73
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:56 AM
never a good way
i hope you dont either
just pull them both somethig is not what it should bee
way to slow way to many rpms
no et and no 60 ft
im thinking
youre car would be
141 60
619-622 1/8
9.95-10.10 1/4 @130 mph
go thru traps @7100 rpms??
i hope you dont either
just pull them both somethig is not what it should bee
way to slow way to many rpms
no et and no 60 ft
im thinking
youre car would be
141 60
619-622 1/8
9.95-10.10 1/4 @130 mph
go thru traps @7100 rpms??
Posted By: Triple Threat
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:56 AM
My rough caveman like calculations put that converter at around 22% slip, but that isn't taking into account tire growth. So I figure 20% is a safe estimate. Either way, you need a new converter.
Posted By: rickstershemi
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 04:02 AM
With that 1st short time, it should have et'd in the 10.20's IMO your probably right about the converter, I would look at a 9" PTC to fit your combo
Rickster
Rickster
Posted By: WILD BILL
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 04:07 AM
My old conv was a TCI 9" that we were going to have refreshed. Now thinking of just having it rebuilt and tweaked for this set up.
Posted By: Thumperdart
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 04:07 AM
Quote:Not really.......I`ve picked up .5 and .5 before but agree the RIGHT vert should make a world of difference and I can`t wait to see the real potential that thing has. Good luck and sell what you have to to get one.
I was turing 120 when made that 10.96 pass.
Tires are 31's and gears are 4:56's.
Half a second for 5 mph seems a little off to me?
Posted By: dennismopar73
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 04:08 AM
put youre air back in the tires 8# not enough for youre weight of car(had to feel funny uptrac)
and put your leave rpm @3000-3200
shift @6500
then play with it
good luck
and put your leave rpm @3000-3200
shift @6500
then play with it
good luck
Posted By: mopar65
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 04:09 AM
I went from 105 to 115 in the 1000 foot just by changing the converter in my old 65 Plymouth.I say not bad for your first time out bill. mine is still sitting on the engine stand wating on me to save up some money for the push rods. best of luck to you. Mopar65
Posted By: WILD BILL
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 04:10 AM
What I have isn't mine to sell
Posted By: WILD BILL
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 04:15 AM
Didn't feel any different at all with the lower pressure. Not a bad thought on raising it up if the track will hold it. Not much heat or stick out there today and I'm sure tomorrow wont be any different.
Anyway, I'm beat and have to get some sleep if I'm gonna do this all over again in the morning.
I may not get to post during the day but I will try. Either way I'll try get back on earlier than I did tonight.
Good night folks
Anyway, I'm beat and have to get some sleep if I'm gonna do this all over again in the morning.
I may not get to post during the day but I will try. Either way I'll try get back on earlier than I did tonight.
Good night folks
Posted By: Thumperdart
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 04:26 AM
Quickly Bill, are you heading back to the track tomorrow to keep testing?
Posted By: '72CudaRacer
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 07:22 AM
Bill,
What are the 1/8th mile times & mph on those passes? I'm guessing the converter ain't right for that combo. I run a 727, 4.56 gear with 29.5" tires and I'm nowhere near 7700rpms in the lights on a 1/4 mile. My converter is a Turbo Action "J"
Brian Dunnigan
What are the 1/8th mile times & mph on those passes? I'm guessing the converter ain't right for that combo. I run a 727, 4.56 gear with 29.5" tires and I'm nowhere near 7700rpms in the lights on a 1/4 mile. My converter is a Turbo Action "J"
Brian Dunnigan
Posted By: Challenger 1
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 11:54 AM
Good luck today Bill.
If you have more power then it seems you would need less gear. I would want to try some 4.30s in it and see. Convertor might like that...
If you have more power then it seems you would need less gear. I would want to try some 4.30s in it and see. Convertor might like that...
Posted By: VernMotor
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 11:57 AM
Yes he is going back to the track today
Posted By: tboomer
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 12:04 PM
Vern....I sure hope Bill has a good day...What is the weather like out your way??
Posted By: 3ddart
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 12:06 PM
bill: just as in real estate it's location, location, location, for us it's converter, converter, converter! long story short, had a 318 in my car yrs ago went 8.30 in the 1/8, built my first 340 and with the same converter it went 8.00, really disappointed. i chased my tail all summer trying different carbs, different this and that, nothing changed much. i finally bit the bullet, called 3 good converter companies and got a consensus on what i should have, bought 1 and BINGO i picked up .5 in the 1/8 mile and another .5 after tuning the combo! remember those are 1/8 mile increases! buy the right 1 the first time and go have FUN!!!
Posted By: VernMotor
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 12:09 PM
Bill going to see high of 52-52 deg today..maybe a little sun..
Posted By: moparniac
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 12:12 PM
what did his engine dyno at? thats a big car. how heavy is it!
Posted By: MegaDart
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 12:21 PM
Glad you both got some runs in today!
Hey don't feel bad, I've done the same thing as you. Put an old used convertor in behind a fresh mill. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't!
Now out with the trans and put in another vert!
Kenny took me from 10.50's to 10.30's when I bought one from him for my old duster!
Hey don't feel bad, I've done the same thing as you. Put an old used convertor in behind a fresh mill. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't!
Now out with the trans and put in another vert!
Kenny took me from 10.50's to 10.30's when I bought one from him for my old duster!
Posted By: 440Jim
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 12:22 PM
Quote:
Went 1.49 60' and 10.53@125mph
Alky:
759 hp @ 7400 rpm
603 ft lbs @ 5800 rpm.
I will have to put that as calibration for that dyno. Whose dyno is it? And as I recall 2800-3000 lbs with driver?
That RPM compared to the peak HP isn't bad. But if the converter is slipping a lot, it will eat up power, especially at the finish line. What is the tire dia, gear, etc. so you can calculate the converter slip?
Posted By: 440Jim
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 12:37 PM
Quote:As someone else posted, that is roughly 19%-23%... Definitely not working correctly in that combo.
7600 rpm, 125 mph
Tires are 31's and gears are 4:56's
Did you double check the trans fluid level, stall check, etc? You should be able to make a tight 8" do the job. But a 9" can be made to do it too.
Posted By: moparniac
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 12:45 PM
Quote:Quote:
Went 1.49 60' and [Email]10.53@125mph[/Email]
Alky:
759 hp @ 7400 rpm
603 ft lbs @ 5800 rpm.
I will have to put that as calibration for that dyno. Whose dyno is it? And as I recall 2800-3000 lbs with driver?
I see why Wild Bill posted he is disappointed! thats coming up a 9.2x on the wallace calc!
Posted By: WILD BILL
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 12:46 PM
Sorry Dom, we stayed at the track last night so yes, I'm still here and looking to make some passes.
Also got to figure out an elevtrical glitch on the 72 or I'm pushing it back int the trailer
here's the 1/8 mile times first pass was 6.60@103.74 second, 6.7@101.90. third 6.66@102.63
Jim, tires are 31's and the gear a 4:56.
I just hope the wind dies down toady. Yesterday it was terrible. Hard cross wind
Also got to figure out an elevtrical glitch on the 72 or I'm pushing it back int the trailer
here's the 1/8 mile times first pass was 6.60@103.74 second, 6.7@101.90. third 6.66@102.63
Jim, tires are 31's and the gear a 4:56.
I just hope the wind dies down toady. Yesterday it was terrible. Hard cross wind
Posted By: WILD BILL
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 12:50 PM
Quote:Quote:Quote:
Went 1.49 60' and [Email]10.53@125mph[/Email]
Alky:
759 hp @ 7400 rpm
603 ft lbs @ 5800 rpm.
I will have to put that as calibration for that dyno. Whose dyno is it? And as I recall 2800-3000 lbs with driver?
I see why Wild Bill posted he is disappointed! thats coming up a 9.2x on the wallace calc!
I never ran it through the calculator. I've never had any faith in them as I've never seen one close to real word.
I was hoping for high 9.80's low 9.90's myself.
Posted By: theclutcher
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 12:58 PM
time for some 4.10's and a dana...
Posted By: 727builder
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 01:07 PM
I agree on more air pressue in the slicks. And needs a tighter converter. You might loose a litte 60 ft with a tighter converter But it should be pulling a lot harder on the top end. Good luck today!
Good luck today!
Posted By: dennismopar73
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 01:17 PM
well i wouldnt touch the 456 cam alky he has
8 3/4 stuff is tough enough
31 tall tire be great
bill, just fix the converter/ tranny
this car should run and run hard
towards 9.90s 10.00s
dont be disapointed,
use this as a challenge,
8 3/4 stuff is tough enough
31 tall tire be great
bill, just fix the converter/ tranny
this car should run and run hard
towards 9.90s 10.00s
dont be disapointed,
use this as a challenge,
Posted By: moparniac
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 02:27 PM
hey bill update your sig
Posted By: emarine01
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 02:43 PM
Hey Bill, you left out the most important part.... Was it fun
Was it fun
Posted By: WILD BILL
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 03:29 PM
Always
On a good note, we went ahead and did the chassis cert anyways, just in case we do get it sorted out I didn't have to pay more later.
Passed 8.50 cert with flying colors
On a good note, we went ahead and did the chassis cert anyways, just in case we do get it sorted out I didn't have to pay more later.
Passed 8.50 cert with flying colors
Posted By: Thumperdart
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 04:09 PM
Good luck today and if you have the same results no point in beating a dead horse. Get the right vert and get back out there and get those well deserved 9-sec slips......you deserve it...
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 04:56 PM
Quote:
Good luck today and if you have the same results no point in beating a dead horse. Get the right vert and get back out there and get those well deserved 9-sec slips......you deserve it...
what,you dont want to hear how his day went?
i will listen to ya bill. 
Posted By: Thumperdart
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 05:13 PM
What I`m saying is that if he has the same results after a few passes chances are he`s not going to go much quicker and he might as well go home , get the new vert and go get those 9-sec slips.
Posted By: rickstershemi
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 05:25 PM
Quote:
What I`m saying is that if he has the same results after a few passes chances are he`s not going to go much quicker and he might as well go home , get the new vert and go get those 9-sec slips.
While he's there he might as well have fun and run as many laps as possible even if it ain't nines
Rickster
Posted By: Thumperdart
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 06:22 PM
I guess............If my goal was a 9-sec slip(which mine was)and I knew it wasn`t there then I`d head home,make the necessary changes and go get it. But, that`s just me......Carry on.
Posted By: moparniac
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 06:42 PM
Quote:
I guess............If my goal was a 9-sec slip(which mine was)and I knew it wasn`t there then I`d head home,make the necessary changes and go get it.
same here!
Posted By: Thumperdart
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 06:46 PM
There`s no fun for me in chasing something that`s just not there w/out a major change..........what`s the point.
Posted By: Runner
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 06:53 PM
Quote:
There`s no fun for me in chasing something that`s just not there w/out a major change..........what`s the point.
if your chasing a time slip i guess this is the right attitude, but if you went RACING and your not hurting parts id still be racing. youve all ready spent the money for the tow and entry fees.
Posted By: Thumperdart
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 06:56 PM
I hear ya but, he didn`t say he was entering a race but he DID say what he thaught it SHOULD run and is WAY off. Either way, good luck Bill and I wish you the best. Oh, I forgot..........not hooking, inconsistent and spinning a stock block well into the high 7000 rpm`s.....Ya, sure sounds like fun to me.
Oh, I forgot..........not hooking, inconsistent and spinning a stock block well into the high 7000 rpm`s.....Ya, sure sounds like fun to me.
Posted By: Bigbeep
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 08:00 PM
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Posted By: 69dart
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 09:59 PM
I would raise the tires to about 10 lbs. and try turning down the 2-step around 3500. The torqueee BB doesn't need alot of launch RPM (especially on alcohol) and it seems to be easier on equipment. I don't know if you need new tires or if you can sqeeze taller tires on but Hoosier makes 12 x 32 that replaces the 13 x 31 pretty nicely. Dropped my finish line a couple hundred Rrr's. I bet the right converter will pick it up .3-.5. Call ATI and get the MRT Treemaster - I know you bracket race alot - the converter will pay for itself by the end of the year.
Your switch sound very similiar to when I went from 383 to my 451 a few years ago. I tried to save money after putting the engine in by leaving the 8 3/4 and old converter. My car picked up .5 when I got rid of the old TCI converter. And I went thru 3 8 3/4's before installing the Dana.
Good Luck!
Your switch sound very similiar to when I went from 383 to my 451 a few years ago. I tried to save money after putting the engine in by leaving the 8 3/4 and old converter. My car picked up .5 when I got rid of the old TCI converter. And I went thru 3 8 3/4's before installing the Dana.
Good Luck!
Posted By: B1Fish540
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 10:47 PM
Dont be too discouraged by the results so far, Bill. In the final analysis, you gained about 100 HP over what you had before..that you know..so your ET will reflect that actual gain. But with the alky, i bet you will have to adjust your combo for the increased torque and power, like has been mentioned.
Posted By: ProSport
Re: Car went down the track - 04/18/10 11:14 PM
Glad you got it out Bill. Now you have some data to get your converter done and start tuning from there.
Posted By: VernMotor
Re: Car went down the track - 04/19/10 12:18 AM
I would not keep running it at 7700rpms..if I could tone that down I run it..
Posted By: sg66mopar
Re: Car went down the track - 04/19/10 12:48 AM
Had the same thing last year when we put in the 572. First pass @ around 10.50. Went back and set the timing back from 52 
(distributor slipped). Went some kind of high nine. 
Remembered the throttle stop was set at half throttle. Next pass went 8.99.
Maybe you got some little gremlin like that.
(distributor slipped). Went some kind of high nine. Remembered the throttle stop was set at half throttle.
Next pass went 8.99. Maybe you got some little gremlin like that.
Posted By: WILD BILL
Re: Car went down the track - 04/19/10 02:45 AM
Dom, Always somrthing to practice so long as your not hurting parts. Got to get my reaction times back for one.
We put a 3200 pill in the luanch and the 60's improved a little.
We also put the shift rpm tp 6200 and noticed the shift light not going out after the 1-2 shift.
All 3 good passes were consistant but then I tried to squeez out just one more and the car lost power as the battery went away. After verifying I wasn't laying a traill I coasted it off the track and waited for a tow
The three "good" passes I had it went a 10.666, a 10.662, and a 10.704.
Might have figured out why the shift light is staying on as I tested the stall by pulling the chip and matting it on the T brake and it went to 6000 rpm
Also got Taylor to stay in the throttle today and WOW what a day she had
First pass I was really jumping for joy when I saw a 7.55 on the board.
Then when I started looking a the time slip it dawns on me "no way she went a .984 60 foot" Yes you read that right
Back up to the lanes and made 2 more. Went a [Email]8.479@75.79[/Email] mph and then a [Email]8.34@77.61mph.[/Email] 60 foot times were 1.890 and 1.847.
Now I get to figure out how to slow it down to run the 8.90 index
Would have liked to get more hits but getting all 3 cars teched, the chassis cert on mine, and chassung a no start on the 72 it just ate up to much of my time. The down side of running multiple cars but so be it.
Tracked the no start to a bad relay and ripped one I don't use out of my car and got it right.
Dad had a good daay to but I'm hoping he'll chime in and post his results.
All in all, I'ld call it a good productive weekend all around.
We put a 3200 pill in the luanch and the 60's improved a little.
We also put the shift rpm tp 6200 and noticed the shift light not going out after the 1-2 shift.
All 3 good passes were consistant but then I tried to squeez out just one more and the car lost power as the battery went away. After verifying I wasn't laying a traill I coasted it off the track and waited for a tow
The three "good" passes I had it went a 10.666, a 10.662, and a 10.704.
Might have figured out why the shift light is staying on as I tested the stall by pulling the chip and matting it on the T brake and it went to 6000 rpm
Also got Taylor to stay in the throttle today and WOW what a day she had
First pass I was really jumping for joy when I saw a 7.55 on the board.
Then when I started looking a the time slip it dawns on me "no way she went a .984 60 foot"
Yes you read that right Back up to the lanes and made 2 more. Went a [Email]8.479@75.79[/Email] mph and then a [Email]8.34@77.61mph.[/Email] 60 foot times were 1.890 and 1.847.
Now I get to figure out how to slow it down to run the 8.90 index
Would have liked to get more hits but getting all 3 cars teched, the chassis cert on mine, and chassung a no start on the 72 it just ate up to much of my time. The down side of running multiple cars but so be it.
Tracked the no start to a bad relay and ripped one I don't use out of my car and got it right.
Dad had a good daay to but I'm hoping he'll chime in and post his results.
All in all, I'ld call it a good productive weekend all around.
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: Car went down the track - 04/19/10 02:54 AM
good going Bill.i will bring your jet kit tomorrow.
Posted By: WILD BILL
Re: Car went down the track - 04/19/10 03:32 AM
No hurry Mike
I did learn that I need to learn how to prime it with gas before trying to start it in the cold weather.
Had to have a buddy come over and get it going this morning
I did learn that I need to learn how to prime it with gas before trying to start it in the cold weather.
Had to have a buddy come over and get it going this morning
Posted By: Moparnut426
Re: Car went down the track - 04/19/10 03:32 AM
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Any one care to hear or are you guys sick of me yet?
Not sick of ya, Im sure they are sick of seeing all my Boring PINK pictures though.
Glad to see ya got it running, Im sure you guys will dial it in big time..
Posted By: WILD CARD
Re: Car went down the track - 04/19/10 03:39 AM
Four passes in the 72;
60 1.953
1/8 8.266
1/4 12.814 @107.95
60 1.954
1/8 8.272
1/4 12.889 @106.92
60 1.939
1/8 8.283
1/4 12.881 @ 106.86
60 1.930
1/8 8.219
1/4 12.764 @108.08
Last pass was a new personal best. Also made that last pass against Bill so I could be there to tow the dead car back to the pits. We've now raced each other twice. Both times I got a great view of the back of that blue Charger!
OK, before you start talking about the killer consistent car you should know that the lights are still so bad that I'm in no danger of going rounds for a while. We'll be back at Norwalk on Friday for the test and tune. Larry needs some practice on the tree!!!
60 1.953
1/8 8.266
1/4 12.814 @107.95
60 1.954
1/8 8.272
1/4 12.889 @106.92
60 1.939
1/8 8.283
1/4 12.881 @ 106.86
60 1.930
1/8 8.219
1/4 12.764 @108.08
Last pass was a new personal best. Also made that last pass against Bill so I could be there to tow the dead car back to the pits. We've now raced each other twice. Both times I got a great view of the back of that blue Charger!
OK, before you start talking about the killer consistent car you should know that the lights are still so bad that I'm in no danger of going rounds for a while. We'll be back at Norwalk on Friday for the test and tune. Larry needs some practice on the tree!!!
Posted By: WILD BILL
Re: Car went down the track - 04/19/10 03:45 AM
Just average you R/T into the amount you keep in the bag for the other end
Posted By: roadhazard
Re: Car went down the track - 04/19/10 07:52 PM
Bill good to see everything stayed together for the first outing and hope you had fun!
Definately need a vert set up for your combo. I'm real happy with my Coan 8". Puts me @ a 5,000 flash on the foot brake with 1.38's - 1.40's 60'.
Don't be to pick up .5 in ET with a vert all by itself. I picked up .3 over my Dynamic 8" that was set up for my combo
You didn't mention if the motor "felt" stronger than before, sans your vert issues.
Congrats on the junior also
Definately need a vert set up for your combo. I'm real happy with my Coan 8". Puts me @ a 5,000 flash on the foot brake with 1.38's - 1.40's 60'.
Don't be
to pick up .5 in ET with a vert all by itself. I picked up .3 over my Dynamic 8" that was set up for my combo You didn't mention if the motor "felt" stronger than before, sans your vert issues.
Congrats on the junior also
Posted By: WILD BILL
Re: Car went down the track - 04/19/10 09:53 PM
Greg, you forgot about Dad.
Or maybe just missed the fact that all 3 of us came out of the weekend with a NEW BEST ET
Hell yeah it felt stronger.
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Or maybe just missed the fact that all 3 of us came out of the weekend with a NEW BEST ET
Hell yeah it felt stronger.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: Car went down the track - 04/19/10 10:10 PM
Quote:
Greg, you forgot about Dad.
Or maybe just missed the fact that all 3 of us came out of the weekend with a NEW BEST ET
Hell yeah it felt stronger.
Bill I dont recall you lifting a tire before... did it
but it looks good.... now get that conv slippage down
Posted By: WILD BILL
Re: Car went down the track - 04/19/10 10:47 PM
I think if they got the timing of the shot just right and all the cards fell into place and you look real hard you might have been able to see a hint of light under the tire before
It was never anything like this though
On the first pass I felt the tire come down as I landed it back on the track
It was never anything like this though
On the first pass I felt the tire come down as I landed it back on the track
Posted By: roadhazard
Re: Car went down the track - 04/19/10 11:34 PM
I did forget about WILD CARD Gongrats on his new best also
Nice pic
When you get a good vert that makes your sidewalls scream then you'll be doin some suspension tuning
Carry On
Posted By: rickstershemi
Re: Car went down the track - 04/20/10 01:58 AM
Quote:
I think if they got the timing of the shot just right and all the cards fell into place and you look real hard you might have been able to see a hint of light under the tire before
It was never anything like this though
On the first pass I felt the tire come down as I landed it back on the track
Awesome, know you can work on getting the other one up there
Rickster