4 speeds and 1/4 times....

I know auto is faster but I like gears,,,,,so what kind of times are you guys with manual trans running?

My best is in my sig. Usually I'm in the low 11.7's @ 119 +/-.

I get 11.56 @ 119 shifting easier into 3rd gear due to prior carnage. 1.53 60 ft.

Waiting to put a Jerico in this season.

Greg.

Here in the Netherlands a guy with a roadrunner runs 10.8 with a 4-speed...and the 4-speed is powered by a CAST crank 440...... and he does that for at least 7 years as far as i know

They sure are fun. I really really miss my 5-speed mustang. It ran 12.30s and was an absolute blast to drive. I also really liked the challenge of making it work on street radials. I could only muster 13.20s or so when I got it. Before I got rid of it I was going 12.70s on a regular radial tire with a 1.84 60ft just by doing better foot work .

There is a downside. I had the car for two years and broke everything behind the clutch disc other than the ring and pinion. Even twisted the splines inside the driveshaft yoke!

My best is a 10.30 @131.11.

I was using 1-2 Pro shifted and 3-4 face plated Hemi 4 speed.

It's an absolute blast to drive.

Sticks is fun, don't know that an auto is faster, but I suspect easier to dial in. Running a jerico & thinks its great

Running a liberty 5 speed we ran a best of 9.90 @133 with the old W2 motor. Hope to go 9.40's on motor and in the 8's on the juice with the W8 motor.

Donald

12.52@111 in my wifes Challenger. 9-1 360,224@.050 hyd roller,LD340,650 holley,full TTI exhaust,bowl ported stock 360 heads. Has O.E. 4 speed w/.244 1st gear. Needed more 1st gear ratio even w/4.30. Only parts wounded after 100 passes were the stock axles. They didn't break but were twisted 1 full spline.
Doug

I've gone 9.85 at 137mph with a stick. SS/AH cars are running 8.40's with Jerico transmissions.

Jeff

My best time so far is in my signiture below in my gtx with original 4sp box. I am not the best guy behind the wheel rowing a stick and would probably be faster with a automatic. But I like shifting the car manually and would not trade it for a 2 pedal system.

Thanks all I am impressed with those times ,,,, aany suggestions an the drive line of my Challenger? I have a 440 balance and 509 DC cam, stock clutch , Hemi 4 speed , Six Pack drive shaft, 4:10 Dana Track Pack and slicks,,, plans are to build the motor to go faster yet not do any changes from the flywheel back,,,, ya think the gears and rear are up for the hard launches with out breaking?

I would upgrade in some good u joints, driveshaft, and axels. I would also upgrade to a Mcleod street twin clutch.

Mid 9's with a jerico and advanced clutch...Alot of fun for sure!!

i made a few 10.80 passes spining with mine before it broke the rear bearing then took out 4th gear. in defense of the trans it was used, then spent about 15 years in a shed before i got it. im gonna take the parts back to Liberty for faceplating then probably give it another shot sometime this year. its a blast on the street!!




A little 4 speed video action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEMag8OJs_E

My son has gone 9.75 @ 136 with the Duster.
368 W2 Shady Dell motor
Jerico 4 speed
5:57 Dana

Technically a stick car is usually faster (mph) than an auto. Now as far as which is quicker,.....we can all debate that one, so who knows.

I plan on being in the neighborhood of my auto trans times, when I'm all said and done with my stick conversion. Ran 11.07 at 120 mph as a best with the auto. So far I only ran 3 times down the track with the stick, and ran a 11.9 at 120mph blowing the tires off at the line, missing 3rd gear, and then missing 4th gear, and then running out of fuel through the traps,.....So it should run pretty good when I get things sorted out.

Happy with my 11.48@119 in a fully body 70 Challenger 906 iron head 10.1 dual plane NO ROLL CAGE street car.....Oh ya 18 spline hemi box...I have had to upgrade to a Dana afer 3 8-3/4's

10.86 @ 126.8 with a stock clutch......

9.20@144mph 3400Lbs, on 10.5w's

hey big squeeze, when you say stock clutch what exaclty do you mean? i assume your using a stock replacement clutch? whos clutch are you using? preasure plate? what rearend gears? and how are you launching the car?

Ed Cook's kid James' FAST A12 RR.

Car weighs about 3,850 w/driver. 100% FAST legal 493" w/stock sixpack. Worn out CF dual friction clutch with stock shifter. No suspension tricks. Liberty geared 833. On the G60-15 bias ply redline tires. The kid can drive the car well.

11.12 @126.

My best ever with the 383 was a 12.56 at somewhere around 107. This is in a 70 RR, at the time it was with the 3.73 741 case rear and a 23 spline A833. I was running slicks and collector extensions on the headers, otherwise just as driven on the street. The clutch was an old Hays Pro Stock that kept your left leg in shape. Guessing with me in it the car is about 4000 lbf. Eventually blew up the rear but what went was the left (stock) axle shaft, broke clean off, twisted the right shaft, broke teeth off the spider gears inside the Sure-Grip, and you could see where the ring gear had been hitting the housing. The ring and pinion were fine, sold them to someone here on Moparts and as far as I know they are dong fine.

Now the car has a 452 built by DRAM. The rear is a 4.3 Strange 60 with a Tru Trac. Still the original rear springs, with clamps on the forward sections. Same tranny. Clutch has a Mcleod 800 disc, which has organic facings on the pressure plate side and kevlar puck like thingies on the flywheel side. Pressure plate is a Mcleod that was reworked by 4speedsavoy's clutch guy. At the time the car had the 383 (blew it up not long after installing the new clutch and scattershield) so hopefully it will still work with slicks. Have not had a chance to take it to the track yet. Have heard that the track is open the 5th February so hopefully will get to test it that night.

My combo is fairly close to the OP's.

Very close to stock 40k original mile 1966 440(untouched stock bore, pistons, bearings, etc.) Orig. 516 heads with larger exhaust valves, .509 MP cam, Hooker 1 7/8" headers, 3" exhaust to Flowmasters.
Torker II single plane intake with Holley 750 DP carb.
Stock MP HP clutch setup, stock Hemi 4 speed, Super Stock springs, snubber, 4.10 rear gear with 28x12.50 ET Street tires.
Heavy all steel street car except glass T/A hood.
I've only had it to the track a few times (notice no cage and window half down in pic ) but I've owned, driven, and street raced this car for 30 years.

Best ET was 11.83 with a soft launch to keep from breaking the 8 3/4 rear(again)

Now that would be fun to drive.

A 4-speed can be just as quick as an auto if you can drive it. I see alot of stick cars with not so good drivers. The auto is much easier to drive and not as hard on the drivetrain. I used to bracket race a 340 four speed Dart and I loved driving it. Ran 11.94 @ 112 best. It was fun banging gears and to me you need to make your stick car sound like an auto shifting if you know how to drive it. But my auto in my 63 is much easier on the drivetrain. I cant imagine how good the drivetrain needs to be on 10 second and faster stick cars. Ron

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hey big squeeze, when you say stock clutch what exaclty do you mean? i assume your using a stock replacement clutch? whos clutch are you using? preasure plate? what rearend gears? and how are you launching the car?

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When I say stock clutch, I mean rag disc.......It's got a Mcleod pressure plate.......I recently bought a #98503 Ram Power Grip Performance disc and plate that I'll be installing next week......I'll use that to find the next weakest link......

Car's got 4.10's with a 27X10.5 Hoosier QT/Pro (I figure using that tire on the typical Friday night TNT at Tulsa is like racing on bias ply poly's at a track that's prepped as good as most of the FAST races.... ).....If I leave very hard, it just runs through the clutch, so I rev to about 3K, get the peddle all the way out and then put the hammer down and start rowing gears......Best 60' is a 1.66, so it's got a lot of room for improvement........

It's also got a Passon Performance aluminum crash box with synchro'd 1st for easy street driving The trans shifts like butter...... I don't know what I'm shifting at.......Car doesn't have a tach in it .......It's got a 7K chip in the 6AL and I've never hit it.......so I'm guessing that I'm shifting around 6,400-6,600........

I'm dying for the track to open so I can hopefully get it into the 10.40 to 10.50 range.....and hopefully get a little more trap speed out of it with some tuning.....

The 10.86 run was at 3,200 DA.......I'd really like to run it at E-town when the FAST guys are there in mine shaft air......

Wayne