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2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger
Posted By: Jeffaary
2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/05/09 06:57 PM
Just read on NHRA.com that Allen Johnson will be driving an Avenger next year, not a Challenger. I have mixed feelings:
1) I'm disappointed because the Challenger is a MUCH better looking car, but.......
2) The Avenger will probably be more competitive because it is closer in size to the Cobalts and GXP's it will be racing, and the Challenger's grille isn't nearly as aerodynamic as those cars.
3) Nice to know Mopar is still behind the drag effort, but it looks like AJ may be the only Mopar out there next year.
Posted By: Moparnut426
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/05/09 07:08 PM
Im pretty sure there will be more than just AJ next year running a mopar. They have too much of a good thing going to just run 1 mopar on the field.
Just my opinion...
Probably only 1 or 2 mopar "sponsored" cars, but there will be more than 1 mopar in the field.
Kasey
Posted By: Jeffaary
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/05/09 07:37 PM
Most of the current Mopar drivers have already announced brand changes for next year; Larry Morgan, Rickie Jones, and Johnny Gray. The other Mopar drivers, most notably Vieri Gaines, were almost nonexistent this year. Taking into account the fact that there will probably be only one Mopar-backed Nascar team (Penske)next year, I'm guessing AJ and maybe one associate car (Vinnie DeCeglie) will be the only Mopars next year. Not a lot for us to root for next year....
Posted By: 70AARcuda
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/05/09 07:48 PM
V. Gaines decided to go in house with his own engine program and stopped renting from Larry Morgan.. his performance has fallen off while doing his own development..
Posted By: Bob_Coomer
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/05/09 08:54 PM
I love them too, but fact is they have the aero dynamics of a school bus. This has been proven even in factory trim. The 300C has about 10 mph on top end speed.
But on a side note, looks like the Mustang gets the nod in the Ford camps..They have about the same aero and drag in the front as the challenger.
IMO
I still wished they would go with the Challenger.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/05/09 08:57 PM
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Im pretty sure there will be more than just AJ next year running a mopar. They have too much of a good thing going to just run 1 mopar on the fieldQuote:
HUH.. 
Posted By: Moparnut426
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/05/09 09:18 PM
They still are pretty competitive even though there is only 3 or 4 of them in the field. AJ has 2 wins this year and is up there in points. What about them is so terrible that they should only have 1 car running?
Kasey
Posted By: Jeffaary
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/05/09 10:01 PM
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But on a side note, looks like the Mustang gets the nod in the Ford camps..They have about the same aero and drag in the front as the challenger.
IMO
The front end on the pro-stock Mustangs has been seriously reworked. It looks more like a pro-mod or funnycar nose. Could be done on the Challenger, but it would look fake. BTW, the Mustangs still aren't competitive.
Posted By: bigdad
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/05/09 10:22 PM
Posted By: Jeffaary
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/05/09 11:48 PM
If this is the legit artwork for next year, shouldn't there be a nitrous explosion coming from the hoodscoop?
Posted By: kruger
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/05/09 11:50 PM
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If this is the legit artwork for next year, shouldn't there be a nitrous explosion coming from the hoodscoop?
Rutt Rhooo 
Posted By: bigdad
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/05/09 11:56 PM
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If this is the legit artwork for next year, shouldn't there be a nitrous explosion coming from the hoodscoop?
No, then the car would be yellow a GM and say Jegs on the door like they have on video this weekend
Posted By: Dos Snails
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/06/09 12:24 AM
You got served!
Posted By: Streetwize
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/06/09 12:26 AM
Since the Challenger the mustang and the Camaro are all about equally Aerodynamically challenged, why not limit Pro stock to running them exclusively and give them another 20 or so cubes as Aero-compensation????
At least it would be more interesting than watching the "scubbing bubble" looking clone cars they've been running foer the past 10 years!!
Guess that might make too much sense, huh??
Posted By: Leon441
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/06/09 12:36 AM
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Since the Challenger the mustang and the Camaro are all about equally Aerodynamically challenged, why not limit Pro stock to running them exclusively and give them another 20 or so cubes as Aero-compensation????
At least it would be more interesting than watching the "scubbing bubble" looking clone cars they've been running foer the past 10 years!!
Guess that might make too much sense, huh??
I can defineately see your point. The real screwy part of this is these Pro-stock cars don't even resemble their stock counterparts. So why not let all makes run a reduced size Challenger, Mustang, and Camaro. Might as well the Mustang like said earlier has a completely reworked nose.
Leon
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/08/09 12:54 AM
heres the new avenger , i believe a moparts member just got a sponsor to race it, heres a sneak preview.
Posted By: justinp61
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/08/09 04:27 AM
Posted By: b1dartsport
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/08/09 06:35 AM
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Since the Challenger the mustang and the Camaro are all about equally Aerodynamically challenged, why not limit Pro stock to running them exclusively and give them another 20 or so cubes as Aero-compensation????
At least it would be more interesting than watching the "scubbing bubble" looking clone cars they've been running foer the past 10 years!!
Guess that might make too much sense, huh??
I can defineately see your point. The real screwy part of this is these Pro-stock cars don't even resemble their stock counterparts. So why not let all makes run a reduced size Challenger, Mustang, and Camaro. Might as well the Mustang like said earlier has a completely reworked nose.
Leon
What these cars have become has nothing to do with the original idea of Pro-Stock. They are nothing but funny cars with more gears & no nito or blower and an Engine that nobody has ever seen any production car. What should be done is the challenger,Mustang and camaro should run with a stock body,a chassis to handle the et, the block that came in the car and let them have at it. To me that would be Pro-Stock. Just my 
Posted By: slantzilla
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/08/09 10:16 AM
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Leon
What these cars have become has nothing to do with the original idea of Pro-Stock. They are nothing but funny cars with more gears & no nito or blower and an Engine that nobody has ever seen any production car. What should be done is the challenger,Mustang and camaro should run with a stock body,a chassis to handle the et, the block that came in the car and let them have at it. To me that would be Pro-Stock. Just my
They already have that class. It's called Super Stock.
Posted By: cheapstreetdustr
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/08/09 02:40 PM
on the bright side...
atleast we wont see mopars line up together and taking one another out..
cheapst.
Posted By: Boosted
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/08/09 03:44 PM
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Since the Challenger the mustang and the Camaro are all about equally Aerodynamically challenged, why not limit Pro stock to running them exclusively and give them another 20 or so cubes as Aero-compensation????
At least it would be more interesting than watching the "scubbing bubble" looking clone cars they've been running foer the past 10 years!!
Guess that might make too much sense, huh??
I can defineately see your point. The real screwy part of this is these Pro-stock cars don't even resemble their stock counterparts. So why not let all makes run a reduced size Challenger, Mustang, and Camaro. Might as well the Mustang like said earlier has a completely reworked nose.
Leon
What these cars have become has nothing to do with the original idea of Pro-Stock. They are nothing but funny cars with more gears & no nito or blower and an Engine that nobody has ever seen any production car. What should be done is the challenger,Mustang and camaro should run with a stock body,a chassis to handle the et, the block that came in the car and let them have at it. To me that would be Pro-Stock. Just my
And get rid of those carburators... Atleast get into the 1980's technology...
Posted By: b1dartsport
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/08/09 04:29 PM
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Leon
What these cars have become has nothing to do with the original idea of Pro-Stock. They are nothing but funny cars with more gears & no nito or blower and an Engine that nobody has ever seen any production car. What should be done is the challenger,Mustang and camaro should run with a stock body,a chassis to handle the et, the block that came in the car and let them have at it. To me that would be Pro-Stock. Just my
They already have that class. It's called Super Stock.
I know these cars are already running in super stock. But the original Pro-Stock was supposed to be an ultimate super stocker at the same weight & ci & running heads up, not some bullsh!t weight break bracket race that super stock is right now.
Posted By: BBR
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/08/09 05:40 PM
In spite of it's looks, the new prostock Mustang is supposed to be one slick mutha, aero-wise. Supposedly better than anything currently out there.
Their current lack of performance has more to do with the fact they are running very outdated motors. They have not begun running the new Ford motors just yet.
The Avenger does not look as slick as a Stratus, but there's more to good aero than 'looking' slick and I doubt they would put out a body with more drag than it predecessor.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/08/09 05:44 PM
GO 1-800 FLOWERS
Posted By: lowbudget
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/09/09 12:32 AM
I was ATI in Baltimore today and saw Roy Johnson and Jim Cunningham together today...I hope thats not sign of things to come
Posted By: Locomotion
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/16/09 11:15 PM
Latest Allen Johnson news:
Allen Johnson - Avenger
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/16/09 11:25 PM
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GO 1-800 FLOWERS
yo Nick, i heard a NJ driver was going to be in the 1-800 FLOWERS AVENGER next year.
Posted By: Kudakidd
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/17/09 12:37 AM
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Since the Challenger the mustang and the Camaro are all about equally Aerodynamically challenged, why not limit Pro stock to running them exclusively and give them another 20 or so cubes as Aero-compensation????
At least it would be more interesting than watching the "scubbing bubble" looking clone cars they've been running foer the past 10 years!!
Guess that might make too much sense, huh??
One of the best observations/ suggestions I've read in a long time.. Take the paint off of today's Pro Stockers and they all look the same (ala NASCAR) 
Posted By: Dodgeman67
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/17/09 01:06 AM
In my opinion if they ran the new camaro, the new mustang, and the Challenger the races would be better.
Posted By: Quicktree
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/17/09 01:09 AM
if it were up to me they would run factory bodies and factory motor parts. that would be a pro stocker.
Posted By: HEMIDARTS
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/17/09 01:11 AM
so i heard a while back from a little birdy that the car is going to be a real 4-door.
The birdy told me that there will be 4-doors not 2.
Has anyone else heard any birdy's singing?
Posted By: mr_340
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/17/09 01:29 AM
I was thinking they should make them run small boxy cars so Tyoder can enter with the XBox. Or spin it off as a separate class called PRO BOX. Dodge could enter the NITRO and Paul Page would go crazy and actually mention the class, unlike PS.
The Challenger/Camaro/Mustang would be a good marketing tool and might bring some excitement to the class. Jeggie can only have so many nitrous explosions for excitement. It would be a flashback to the original format, but they would modify the bodies so much you couldn't tell them apart anyway. They should let them run Harold Martin's Pro Mod body (how can the driver see out of that thing?).
http://www.competitionplus.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9132&Itemid=24
Posted By: Kudakidd
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/17/09 03:00 AM
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They should let them run Harold Martin's Pro Mod body (how can the driver see out of that thing?).
That thing looks like a hybrid on steroids.
Posted By: Irun5snd8th
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/17/09 03:55 PM
Play the Camaro, Challenger, Mustang game and we are right back in the same spot with the most aero challenged body of the bunch!
Posted By: MoparforLife
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/17/09 04:23 PM
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heres the new avenger , i believe a moparts member just got a sponsor to race it, heres a sneak preview.
Just for the record for those that don't realize the fact - Allen Johnson is a member of Moparts.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/17/09 04:38 PM
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heres the new avenger , i believe a moparts member just got a sponsor to race it, heres a sneak preview.
Just for the record for those that don't realize the fact - Allen Johnson is a member of Moparts.
but......he's not a NJ resident!
Posted By: Quicktree
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/17/09 05:02 PM
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heres the new avenger , i believe a moparts member just got a sponsor to race it, heres a sneak preview.
Just for the record for those that don't realize the fact - Allen Johnson is a member of Moparts.
he is but he makes them 1 liners then gone again
Posted By: Prostock
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/17/09 07:08 PM
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if it were up to me they would run factory bodies and factory motor parts. that would be a pro stocker.
You want to see a 4 door, 4 cylinder Avenger?
Posted By: Chris2581
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/17/09 09:50 PM
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so i heard a while back from a little birdy that the car is going to be a real 4-door.
The birdy told me that there will be 4-doors not 2.
Has anyone else heard any birdy's singing?
I heard the same thing a while back.
Posted By: HEMIDARTS
Re: 2010 Allen Johnson Avenger - Not Challenger - 10/18/09 01:14 AM
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so i heard a while back from a little birdy that the car is going to be a real 4-door.
The birdy told me that there will be 4-doors not 2.
Has anyone else heard any birdy's singing?
I heard the same thing a while back.
When i heard it i did not believe it.
I asked the same question 5 different ways to make sure i understood.
I hope its not true,but it sounds like it will be the 4-door avenger.
I will be at SEMA in 2 weeks, and he is supposed to unveil it.
I will let everyone know.
