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Tap size?????

Posted By: 70dusterjohn

Tap size????? - 08/11/09 10:39 PM

Help me out here, I need a 1/4 by 24 or 32.. by all I can find is 8 by 32 or 10 by 32.. What do these sizes mean.. What the heck am I doing???? I'm Lost need help PLEASE...
Posted By: S/ST 3040

Re: Tap size????? - 08/11/09 10:42 PM

8-32(.164") amd 10-32(.190") are machine thread screws.
Posted By: codfish

Re: Tap size????? - 08/11/09 10:43 PM

What are you working on?

1/4 by 24, means 1/4" diameter, and 24 threads per inch. And then there are pipe threads.

codfish
Posted By: scratchnfotraction

Re: Tap size????? - 08/11/09 10:43 PM

would you be looking for a 1/4-20 tap?

thats whats most common

plus,I dont know what you doing either..LOL
Posted By: BILLYJAY

Re: Tap size????? - 08/11/09 10:48 PM

john, the tap size they were talking about for the oil restrictors was 1/4 x 32 but those being so hard to find they said thats they used a 1/4 x 24.. and screwed them in tight and that they would stay considering the application..

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Posted By: justinp61

Re: Tap size????? - 08/11/09 11:00 PM

http://www.mcmaster.com/#taps/=35b5hr

Click on the "select inch size" and click on the one you need.
Posted By: 70dusterjohn

Re: Tap size????? - 08/11/09 11:28 PM

Okay, so I found the tap all is good.. But I pull the fitting out of the head and there is no way that I can tap it without first drilling it out.. Is that normal.. and if so what size drill do I need to use... This is for the oil lines in the Indy heads.. To put the holley jet in it.. Thanks guys..
Posted By: 70dusterjohn

Re: Tap size????? - 08/11/09 11:34 PM

Anyone..
Posted By: BILLYJAY

Re: Tap size????? - 08/12/09 12:19 AM

YES,. you have to drill first then tap unless the hole you are retapping is close to size with the hole already there..(not in this case)there is a chart that will tell you what size hole to drill for the size tap you are going to use.. maybe someone here will chim in with that info.. i dont have it unless you google it....
Posted By: Hot 340

Re: Tap size????? - 08/12/09 12:26 AM

ok. What tap size are you tapping? You need to state this to know what drill size to use. 1/4-20 uses a 13/64 drill size to tap, 1/4-28 uses a .213(#3)drill.
Posted By: moparx

Re: Tap size????? - 08/12/09 12:34 AM

1/4 x 24 tap drill is : #4
1/4 x 27 tap drill is : #3
1/4 x 32 tap drill is : 7/32

Posted By: 440Jim

Re: Tap size????? - 08/12/09 12:39 AM

Trust me on this one, I do this all the time.

1/4-32 National extra fine series. (or Unified Thread Standard)
Drill 7/32" (0.2188") then tap.
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1/4-28 National fine series.
Drill #3 (0.2130") then tap.
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1/4-20 National coarse series.
Drill #7 (0.2010") then tap. (13/64 is acceptable, but a slightly looser fit. not class 2).

http://www.physics.ncsu.edu/pearl/Tap_Drill_Chart.html
Posted By: 70dusterjohn

Re: Tap size????? - 08/12/09 02:04 AM

Is there any pros or cons to doing this.. Here is my fear.. My oil pressure is at 85 to 90 pounds cold and 40 to 45 pounds hot, and if this will increase my pressure I'm affraid of the dreaded gasket on my miliodon oil pump.. I'm not having a problem with oil blowing out the breathers so should I do it or not...
Posted By: Ari440

Re: Tap size????? - 08/12/09 02:08 AM

do it : ....... more oil to the mains


#70 jet in mine
Posted By: 70dusterjohn

Re: Tap size????? - 08/12/09 02:14 AM

I'm just on the fence...
Posted By: Dodgem

Re: Tap size????? - 08/12/09 02:39 AM

I just soldered my fittings in and drilled them .055 works fine. seems to be enough oil to the rockers when I pulled the covers off after a few 2 minutes runs?
Never seen much difference in oil pressure but I have the adjustable milidon relief spring regulator kit!
Guess I'll have to check the hot in gear pressure later.
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Tap size????? - 08/12/09 03:43 AM

Quote:

I'm just on the fence...


Which brand and type rocker arms are you using now? If there bushed and non needle bearing roller rockers like T&D or Harland Sharps don't worry about it. If there needle bearing type roller rockers restrict them, .040 to .060
Posted By: 62SAVOY

Re: Tap size????? - 08/12/09 05:15 AM

1/4-32 tap and die can be gotten at some local hobby shops. This is the thread the glow powered models use for the glow plugs.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXL774&P=7
Posted By: 440Jim

Re: Tap size????? - 08/12/09 02:22 PM

Quote:

Okay, so I found the tap all is good.. But I pull the fitting out of the head and there is no way that I can tap it without first drilling it out.. Is that normal.. and if so what size drill do I need to use... This is for the oil lines in the Indy heads.. To put the holley jet in it.. Thanks guys..


Sounds like you have not tapped metal before. Here is a tip, after drilling, chamfer (bevel) the entry. Start the tap straight into the hole (check carefully). When tapping, start by turning the tap 3-5 turns to get it started. Then back out 1 turn to break the chips. Then reverse every 1 turn or if the tap feels hard to turn. This avoids breaking taps, which is really easy with #6, #8. A looser drilled hole is less likely to break a tap, but makes threads with less strength.

3 common types of taps:
1) tapered - long lead (taper) for easier turning, but doesn't reach the bottom of the hole
2) bottoming - very little lead, harder to turn more difficult to start straight, but gets close to the bottom of the hole
3) plug - good compromise of above
Posted By: 70dusterjohn

Re: Tap size????? - 08/12/09 02:50 PM

No I've used a Tap before.. I'm using the Indy Rockers for now But I have the Harlmsharpes from my other motor that I sold. Just haven't put them on yet.. I just feel if I'm not having a problem with oil control up top why should I mess with it.. Like if it ain't broke don't fix it type.. I don't know.. Maybe I'll order more fittings and mess with them..
Posted By: polyspheric

Re: Tap size????? - 08/13/09 11:52 AM

Glad you found it - BTW: 1/4-24 is very common on all 1976 and older Harley motors, so any dealer will have some hardware (but only a few have the tap or die).
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