Posted By: Bubba
Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 01:37 AM
Hmmm.............What do we have here?
Guess this Carnage?
Posted By: Bubba
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 01:38 AM
.......Figure it out yet?
Posted By: juicedcuda
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 01:39 AM
Rod cap?
Posted By: Bubba
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 01:40 AM
...I kinda thought I knew.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 01:41 AM
What else got hurt Bubba....... not good
Posted By: Bubba
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 01:41 AM
......Always next season.
Posted By: Anonymous
Post deleted by Defbob - 07/22/09 01:43 AM
Posted By: Bigcube
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 01:49 AM
Ouch! 
I recall that's a new motor? Not good 
Sorry to see that.
I recall that's a new motor? Not good Sorry to see that.
Posted By: wyoming
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 01:54 AM
Not good at all, hopefully "but doesn't look likely' that block is ok, heads?
Posted By: dartman366
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 01:56 AM
that sure is ugly. 
Posted By: Barnstorm
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 01:57 AM
Looks like a top fuel grenade
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 01:58 AM
Bubba,that SUCKS!!! 
Any idea how and WHY it came apart??? How many runs on the motor? I feel bad for ya! 
I guess Jeff had a bar on one of the roller lifters come unglued,wiping out a cam lobe! Metal everywhere! I was really looking forward to seeing his Dart run! Next year's another season! Best of luck,Todd! 
RandyB 
Any idea how and WHY it came apart??? How many runs on the motor? I feel bad for ya! I guess Jeff had a bar on one of the roller lifters come unglued,wiping out a cam lobe! Metal everywhere! I was really looking forward to seeing his Dart run! Next year's another season! Best of luck,Todd! RandyB
Posted By: BEEQUIK
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 02:01 AM
(1)--I believe that is the Maxwell Smart self destructing top secret connecting rod .After playing its message, it blows up!!
(2)--How bout teenage mutant ninja connecting rod bolts?
(3)--Definitely appears to be an unscheduled disassembly. I bet if I had a car that ran,thats what would happen to it! Dam dude, that really Blow$ !!!
Sounds like you need a trip to Capers and a hug!
(2)--How bout teenage mutant ninja connecting rod bolts?
(3)--Definitely appears to be an unscheduled disassembly. I bet if I had a car that ran,thats what would happen to it! Dam dude, that really Blow$ !!!
Sounds like you need a trip to Capers and a hug!
Posted By: Bob_Coomer
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 02:22 AM
That's your new engine?
Man, I hate to see that. That gotta be a horrible gut feeling.
Man, I hate to see that. That gotta be a horrible gut feeling.
Posted By: STEFF
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 02:33 AM
nice
Posted By: HardcoreB
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 03:09 AM
This is some hard luck. I am sorry.
Posted By: Hemiroid
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 03:15 AM
Ouch, that really sucks man, sorry to see that. 
Is the head and block done too?
Is the head and block done too?
Posted By: ProSport
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 04:05 AM
That really blows, don't even know what to say but I can imagine what you're going through. I hope you get it fixed for Norwalk if the block is ok.
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 04:06 AM
I feel your pain brother 
Posted By: justinp61
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 04:10 AM
Crap , now I'm afraid to take mine out on it's maiden voyage. It seems everybody is losing engines. Sorry about you're troubles, you must be sick 
. I would be.
, now I'm afraid to take mine out on it's maiden voyage. It seems everybody is losing engines. Sorry about you're troubles, you must be sick . I would be.
Posted By: Sledge_57
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 04:10 AM
Quote:
Bubba,that SUCKS!!!
That's ugly, Randy is that Bubba's piston or the guy "Jeff" you mentioned here?
Hope it's not Bubbas..................
I'd still like to see that big ole "Fairmont" run
Posted By: J_BODY
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 04:48 AM
Dang Bubba.....does that mean I have the faster Mirada again? Hope that's not your stuff! BTW when I read your post on the new engine a friend of mine made three passes on his new World Block engine and it exploded big time (block ruined). Guess that's why I have a hard time steering away from the Moparbilly old way of thinking. Build it cheap, have fun, build another. That's the only way I can afford to play this game.
Posted By: The Shadow
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 10:57 AM
Wow
That really sucks
Hope it didn't cause too much other damage.
That really sucks
Hope it didn't cause too much other damage.
Posted By: mcat4321
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 11:32 AM
did we figure out if this was bubba or someone else.. i saw that the mirader was on RJ as a roller for sale. i just lost my new 500 incher. a feel your pain. im on my 3rd motor this year. the first looks to have froze or the sleeve moved? the second was a prebuilt shortblock 500 incher, now i put the 1st back together with a new block.. this whole going fast thing really loses its luster when parts break. or catch fire 
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 12:10 PM
Quote:
did we figure out if this was bubba or someone else.. i saw that the mirader was on RJ as a roller for sale. i just lost my new 500 incher. a feel your pain. im on my 3rd motor this year. the first looks to have froze or the sleeve moved? the second was a prebuilt shortblock 500 incher, now i put the 1st back together with a new block.. this whole going fast thing really loses its luster when parts break. or catch fire
This is Bubba's... it happened on Saturday morning
when he was doing a TnT pass next to Rick Ross, I
was watching the pass and heard a pop but Bubba said
it was doing alot more than that.... now I see why
Posted By: Anonymous
Post deleted by Defbob - 07/22/09 12:40 PM
Posted By: BB70DUSTER
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 01:42 PM
ouch!
Posted By: ZIPPY
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 01:54 PM
Ouch!! What the heck happened?
I think I see one spirolock in there that might
still be good
That's gotta hurt. Noticed the for sale ad for the car and trailer, hope it doesn't come to that. Stick with it Todd, you've come so far it'd be a shame to stop now!
I think I see one spirolock in there that might
still be good
That's gotta hurt. Noticed the for sale ad for the car and trailer, hope it doesn't come to that. Stick with it Todd, you've come so far it'd be a shame to stop now!
Posted By: BBR
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 02:47 PM
That's weird. I was just looking at Bubba's car in an old Mopar Muscle last night, then I see this.
Posted By: sunroofgtx
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 04:28 PM
Bubba, that just hurts all over, in so many ways. Now what ? Rebuild or sell as a roller ? Wish I could give you a big hug....... then start drinking heavily and down 3 dozen Atomic wings with ya..
Posted By: Mike Swann
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 06:41 PM
Great, Someone left one side of the spiral locks out of the piston. (I know guy that did this once, it came apart at 7800rpm with a big load of juice).
Posted By: Leon441
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/22/09 11:57 PM
You don't have to leave one side out to do this.
If your pistons are setup for double locks all you have to do is leave one out. The pin will beat back and forth until it kicks the other one out.
I sent a piston and rod to the machine shop for bob weight measuring. They left one lock out. If it had not been for the ring rail the pin would have hit the cylinder wall. I had the engine apart for something else and caught the problem before really tearing a lot of parts up.
Leon
If your pistons are setup for double locks all you have to do is leave one out. The pin will beat back and forth until it kicks the other one out.
I sent a piston and rod to the machine shop for bob weight measuring. They left one lock out. If it had not been for the ring rail the pin would have hit the cylinder wall. I had the engine apart for something else and caught the problem before really tearing a lot of parts up.
Leon
Posted By: wheelsup68dart
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/23/09 12:00 AM
Dang, I guess "Bubba shot the jukebox last night" sorry I could not resist. This stinks
Posted By: 69B3GT
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/23/09 12:03 AM
Quote:
lack of oil to muffler bearings ??
WRONG!!!! obviously the piston return springs were not stiff enough
Looks pretty bad though.
Posted By: Quicksilver440
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/23/09 12:37 AM
hydrolock?
Posted By: 440Jim
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/23/09 12:46 AM
Say it isn't so.
I hate to hear that. You spent good money on that thing. That hurts, big time.
I hate to hear that. You spent good money on that thing. That hurts, big time.
Posted By: VernMotor
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/23/09 12:52 AM
Makes my little hurt on my motor..look easy ! I realy feel bad for you..then some big bucks parts !
Posted By: RemCharger
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/23/09 01:16 AM
Quote:Must have been a well used set of rods.
Aluminum rod snapped on engine decel.
Posted By: gearjammerdart
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/23/09 02:40 AM
Bubba, Sorry to hear about this
Donald
Donald
Posted By: Sledge_57
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/23/09 02:46 AM
Man that sucks , sorry Bubba, really was looking forward to seeing it run at Milan.
, sorry Bubba, really was looking forward to seeing it run at Milan.
Posted By: demon440
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/23/09 05:09 AM
Ouch !
Look's painful.
Just curious,who built the motor?
Look's painful.
Just curious,who built the motor?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/24/09 01:21 AM
Quote:
Ouch !
Look's painful.
Just curious,who built the motor?
Posted By: 69CHARGERMD
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/24/09 01:28 AM
Talk about a kick to the Panuus.........
sorry to hear about the car Bubba,,,,,,,
sorry to hear about the car Bubba,,,,,,,
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/24/09 01:32 AM
Dougie,what is a panuus??? 
Posted By: Jared_Jordan
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/24/09 01:36 AM
Broken rod. Looks pretty similar to what I pulled out of the Belvedere oil pan a couple years ago.
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/24/09 01:50 AM
Quote:
Dougie,what is a panuus???
A Male FUPA
Posted By: Bubba
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/24/09 02:05 AM
I assembled the engine in my garage. Nobody to blame but me I guess. For What? I don't know. Not gonna sweat it.. Probably just start over. I've had some real cool offers to help me out, and some very good people sent PMs with advice. I appreciate it.
I think I'll step away from the racing thing and go back to the street stuff. 540" Pump Gas Engine. I'm not going anywhere yet...
But I am updating my " Lessons Learned " Book. I'm on Chapter 17..
I think I'll step away from the racing thing and go back to the street stuff. 540" Pump Gas Engine. I'm not going anywhere yet...
But I am updating my " Lessons Learned " Book. I'm on Chapter 17..
Posted By: TonyS451
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/24/09 02:16 AM
Sorry to hear about this, Bubba. Everyone has made mistakes along the way(I know I have), so no need to beat yourself up about it. You have the right attitude for sure 
Keep your head up and kick some butt on the streets when you're good and ready.
Keep your head up and kick some butt on the streets when you're good and ready.
Posted By: Leon441
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/24/09 02:18 AM
Look close at the carnage...
Don't think this was a rod failure. This problem started in the wrist pin area of the piston. The pin may have just broke. This happens from weak pin or hydrolocking or severe detonation. The pin boss in the piston may have failed. But, I kinda tend to agree with Mike as I was thinking along the same idea. The pin boss is simply broken out of the piston. Looks like the pin may have dug into the cylinder wall and ripped the piston apart.
Post some pics of the cylinder wall. What kind of damage happened to the cylinder head on that cylinder?
Leon
Don't think this was a rod failure. This problem started in the wrist pin area of the piston. The pin may have just broke. This happens from weak pin or hydrolocking or severe detonation. The pin boss in the piston may have failed. But, I kinda tend to agree with Mike as I was thinking along the same idea. The pin boss is simply broken out of the piston. Looks like the pin may have dug into the cylinder wall and ripped the piston apart.
Post some pics of the cylinder wall. What kind of damage happened to the cylinder head on that cylinder?
Leon
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/24/09 02:20 AM
Bubba,maybe keeping things simple would be the smartest and most economical idea! A "540" pump-gas motor sounds like the ticket! If you need any help with anything,and I'm available,I'll be glad to lend a hand! 
Best of luck on whatever you decide to do! 
Randy
If you need any help with anything,and I'm available,I'll be glad to lend a hand! Best of luck on whatever you decide to do! Randy
Posted By: rowin4
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/24/09 02:36 AM
A friend had similar carnage to his motor, It was determined that the spiro lock came out, [ it was found to be in good condition ] the pin slid out causing the rod to break off the bottom of one side of the piston,then the rod proceeded to poke around for a while with nothing but a rist pin on the ending up with a similar picture like yours. Sorry, i hope mine don't come out.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/24/09 02:48 AM
FUPA???!!! Good one Al! 
Posted By: BigFish69
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/24/09 02:54 AM
Hey Bubba
man that looks bad they have counseling for this kind of thing.
man that looks bad they have counseling for this kind of thing.
Posted By: moparlulu
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/24/09 02:57 AM
Quote:Always sad to see this kind of damage. Its taken me a year to get parts rounded up after the wifes swallowed a valve. good luck with the next one.
I assembled the engine in my garage. Nobody to blame but me I guess. For What? I don't know. Not gonna sweat it.. Probably just start over. I've had some real cool offers to help me out, and some very good people sent PMs with advice. I appreciate it
I think I'll step away from the racing thing and go back to the street stuff. 540" Pump Gas Engine. I'm not going anywhere yet...
But I am updating my " Lessons Learned " Book. I'm on Chapter 17..
Posted By: 10secGTX
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/24/09 03:47 AM
My heart goes out to ya Bubba.... I like the idea of the pump gas.. maybe a small shot of spray and you might be suprised!!!
Posted By: demon440
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/24/09 03:55 AM
When I asked who built the motor,
I wasn't looking to blame anyone.
These aren't stock parts and stuff happens.
I thought you had Best build a motor for
you before and was just wandering if you
were still using them.
That Mirada is awesome.
I wasn't looking to blame anyone.
These aren't stock parts and stuff happens.
I thought you had Best build a motor for
you before and was just wandering if you
were still using them.
That Mirada is awesome.
Posted By: Bob_Coomer
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/24/09 04:06 AM
Is the block salvageable Bubba?
Posted By: Leigh
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/24/09 10:04 AM
Man, tough hop. Only thing worse, is being a Twins fan. At least you are being pretty realistic. Unfortunately, not much a guy can do about it. Good luck on the next one.
Posted By: Bubba
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/24/09 11:33 AM
I sure hope the block is usable... Looks like the Wrist pin beat the snot out of the cylinder wall. I'm sure it will clean up with 4.50 Bore. Found all the Spiral locks, and the Wrist pin itself looks good. Not really GOOD, but better than the other parts.
No problem David.. I didn't take offense. Stuff Happens to used race parts. I'm done with the Mirada. Time to move on to something else. Soon as I find it.
Counseling would'nt work at this point.. I'm too deep already.
No problem David.. I didn't take offense. Stuff Happens to used race parts. I'm done with the Mirada. Time to move on to something else. Soon as I find it.
Counseling would'nt work at this point.. I'm too deep already.
Posted By: cudadon
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/24/09 02:28 PM
Quote:
Hey Bubba
man that looks bad they have counseling for this kind of thing.
My condolences Bubba.
NICE pic of a COOL looking Barracuda!!
Don
Posted By: MIKES_DUSTER
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/24/09 03:33 PM
I was wondering why you were selling your ride complete and then roller??? NOW I know why!!!
Sorry!!!!
Sorry!!!!
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Guess this Carnage? - 07/25/09 03:09 AM
Quote:Don,is that a hint to Bubba,that it's for sale?Quote:
Hey Bubba
man that looks bad they have counseling for this kind of thing.
My condolences Bubba.
NICE pic of a COOL looking Barracuda!!
Don
RandyB