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What's your take on this engine?

Posted By: 500ciBee

What's your take on this engine? - 06/12/09 11:45 AM

Price is $14500. What do you guys think? I haven't started my build yet and started looking around for a complete engine.
Thanks




YOU ARE BIDDING on a MOPAR 400 to 500 cid STROKER COMPLETE DYNO-TESTED ENG 746HP @ 6000 RPM and 697 ft/lbs TQ @ 4800 RPM ON PUMP GAS!


OEM 400 BLOCK, EDELBROCK MAX-WEDGE HEADS


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CNC MACHINED ON ROTTLER F65A
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CLEARANCE LIFTER BORES
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INDY BILLET REAR MAIN SEAL ASSEMBLY
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400 MAIN GIRDLE ASSEMBLY
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MILODON ADJ OIL PRESSURE REG.
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EDELBROCK 77929 MODIFIED TO MAX-WEDGE
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CYLINDER HEADS MAX-WEDGE PORTED
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COATED COMBUSTION CHAMBERS
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COATED VALVE FACES & STEMS
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2.250 INTAKE VALVES & SPECIAL VALVE TRAIN
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4.150" STROKER CRANKSHAFT 4340
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4340 FORGED H-BEAM RODS
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FULL FLOATING PISTON PINS
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PUMP-GAS DIAMOND FORGED COATED PISTONS
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TOTAL SEAL GAPLESS TOP FILE TO FIT RINGS
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CUSTOM SOLID ROLLER CAMSHAFT
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HUGHES SHAFT ROCKER SYSTEM
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MOPAR PERFORMANCE VALVE COVERS
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HIGH VOLUMN OILING SYSTEM
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SMITH BROS PUSHRODS
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1.540 VALVE SPRINGS
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SOLID ROLLER LIFTERS
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MANLEY VITON SEALS
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INDY PORT MATCHED MAX-WEDGE INTAKE
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CUSTOM PC POWDER-COATED CARB
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INDY VALLEY TRAY, ARP FASTENERS
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MSD 8546 BILLET DISTRIBUTOR
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3 BOLT BILLET TIMING SET
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MILODON 30890 PAN WITH PICK-UP
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COATED GROOVED BEARINGS
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FELPRO GASKETS, ARP FASTENERS
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ATI SFI SUPER HARMONIC DAMPER
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MILODON BRONZE GEAR
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BALANCED ROTATING ASSEMBY
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SPEEDOMOTIVE EXPERT ASSEMBLY
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DYNO-TESTED ON 91 OCTANE
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746HP @ 6000 RPM
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697 ft/lbs TQ @ 4800 RPM
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Posted By: 47hudson

Re: What's your take on this engine? - 06/12/09 12:48 PM

I wouldn't be as afraid of the engine being as its from an known engine builder as I would if it was "joe racer", but I would rather put that money into building an engine myself. Thats just me, but engines that I don't see going together or have my hands on worry me. You just hear too many horror stories. I understand that is not an option for some, but even if I ordered an engine I think I would want to at least be involved in the setup.

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Posted By: Bill MeLater

Re: What's your take on this engine? - 06/12/09 12:54 PM

what exactly is a "special" valvetrain?
Posted By: 70blackfish

Re: What's your take on this engine? - 06/12/09 01:27 PM

I have seen a couple of horror stories on here about Speed o motive
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: What's your take on this engine? - 06/12/09 01:39 PM

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I have seen a couple of horror stories on here about Speed o motive




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Posted By: boatracer572

Re: What's your take on this engine? - 06/12/09 01:39 PM

to much money for a build around a"stock" 40 year old block

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Posted By: hemiiroc

Re: What's your take on this engine? - 06/12/09 02:13 PM

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to much money for a build around a"stock" 40 year old block




x10---way too high!
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: What's your take on this engine? - 06/12/09 03:04 PM

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to much money for a build around a"stock" 40 year old block




x10---way too high!




I agree with that also , old tech build , should be a 4.25 stroke crank with BBC spec rods plus coatings that aren't really required and I'd be curious if they were really in there , plus I would want to WITNESS the actual dyno session on the actual motor ...
Posted By: Bob_Coomer

Re: What's your take on this engine? - 06/12/09 03:35 PM

I agree, I could build that engine for around that price with a aftermarket block. And going with a cheaper stroker kit, end up with 572 cubes
Posted By: 500ciBee

Re: What's your take on this engine? - 06/13/09 12:58 PM

Thanks guys!!
Our plan was to build a 500-512 stroker using a 400 block. Logistically it's been tough getting the time set aside to work on the build. Living in Ontario, Canada parts are more expensive to buy and ship. Also, I know of a few machine shops around but most seem to cater to the Mustang(ford) crowd.

We have a fairly strong running 383 with some good reusable parts to build our extra 400 into a 512. I'd much rather be apart of the build and not spend $14500 or $16500cdn if I don't have to.

Can you guys recommend a good shop in the Toronto, SW Ontario, area that have experience building Mopars?
Thanks!!
Posted By: B5 Bee

Re: What's your take on this engine? - 06/13/09 02:19 PM

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I have seen a couple of horror stories on here about Speed o motive




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The member on here that bashing Speed-O-Motive had some serious credibility problems. He apparently was a scammer and constantly changed his Moparts screen name to cover up some of the shoddy deals he had in the classifieds. Most of what he claimed about the S-O-M motor were lies.
'68fastback' can fill in some of the details.
Posted By: Glen440

Re: What's your take on this engine? - 06/13/09 02:38 PM

I have been using a shop in Aurora. They do build some Mopars but they mainly do stock car stuff and cylinder heads. I just have them do machine work and cylinder head freshen ups and I assemble the engine.

I'll be dropping a block off there next week.
Posted By: emarine01

Re: What's your take on this engine? - 06/13/09 02:58 PM

A few years ago a buddy hydro locked a 360 stroker he got from them , He had a bad carb , flooded it and bent a rod cranking , He got it as a short block for around 3k , I fixed it for him and cant say that anything was out of spec or poorly done, not my choise of parts but thats what they said was it for 3k,I am not defending the builder but IMO there are two sides to every story and its not really fair if the builder cant represent himself , as far as the big stroker goes, I dont think its worth the big bucks outa a stock block
Posted By: rickstershemi

Re: What's your take on this engine? - 06/13/09 10:04 PM

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I agree, I could build that engine for around that price with a aftermarket block. And going with a cheaper stroker kit, end up with 572 cubes




I agree

Rickster
Posted By: HotRodDave

Re: What's your take on this engine? - 06/13/09 11:22 PM

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I agree, I could build that engine for around that price with a aftermarket block. And going with a cheaper stroker kit, end up with 572 cubes




I agree

Rickster




Me 3 !

I am a little suspicious of those dyno numbers my self, that is a lot of power for a 500 turning 6000, I would expect just a tad less power and a much higher rpm. Not many motors can make 1.5 hp per cube at 6000
Posted By: Joshs68

Re: What's your take on this engine? - 06/14/09 01:41 AM

Muscle motors advertises some "Killer krate" engines that sound pretty reasonable.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: What's your take on this engine? - 06/14/09 01:49 AM

PM arc on the board, he has a new 572 with a megablock that dynoed 931 hp with 572-13 indy heads for that price.all top of the line parts too.
Posted By: Bob_Coomer

Re: What's your take on this engine? - 06/14/09 04:15 AM






Me 3 !

I am a little suspicious of those dyno numbers my self, that is a lot of power for a 500 turning 6000, I would expect just a tad less power and a much higher rpm. Not many motors can make 1.5 hp per cube at 6000




Yes
I didnt want to say anything, but I agree 100%
Posted By: 68Fastback

Re: What's your take on this engine? - 06/14/09 07:34 AM

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I have seen a couple of horror stories on here about Speed o motive




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The member on here that bashing Speed-O-Motive had some serious credibility problems. He apparently was a scammer and constantly changed his Moparts screen name to cover up some of the shoddy deals he had in the classifieds. Most of what he claimed about the S-O-M motor were lies.
'68fastback' can fill in some of the details.




That wingnut is still on here after burning one member on a car and trying to do the same with another car. He always attacks the truth.

But for that amount of money check around especially on here you should be able to maximize your money in these times. Good luck.
Posted By: Kam*Kuda

Re: What's your take on this engine? - 06/14/09 12:00 PM

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Can you guys recommend a good shop in the Toronto, SW Ontario, area that have experience building Mopars?
Thanks!!




In Toronto... Competition Automotive.
Further East... FHO For Hemis Only. He will build a wedge too.
Posted By: coronetville

Re: What's your take on this engine? - 06/14/09 12:46 PM

over 700 hp on a stock block, is a 200 pass, time bomb [which pass]
Posted By: 52savoy

Re: What's your take on this engine? - 06/15/09 02:00 AM

It's a lot of money no matter how you figure it. There are a few companies that offer crate motors and also short blocks if you choose that direction. Ohio Crankshaft has a pretty good deal on short blocks IMO.

just ranting.....
What I don't understand is all the bashing. There was a post by a mod just the other day on this very subject.
Speed-o-motive has been around about 50 years from what I recall... and weren't they recently in the engine challenge and a couple past? To be honest, every builder I know has at least one horror story. How many different builders can you name(in your head)?
The talk about stock blocks is a bit troubling too. AndyF uses stock blocks and his 800+hp motor doesn't even use a girdle according to him.
Just my opinion.
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Posted By: 408strokerdart

Re: What's your take on this engine? - 06/15/09 02:17 AM

14.5K is alot of cash for an oem block engine. I think you could have a repuitable builder build you exactly what you want for less and not have to settle for anything else.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: What's your take on this engine? - 06/15/09 02:18 AM

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Can you guys recommend a good shop in the Toronto, SW Ontario, area that have experience building Mopars?
Thanks!!




What about FHO ??? I'm sure he could build you a killer wedge ?
Posted By: LA360

Re: What's your take on this engine? - 06/15/09 04:07 AM

People make mistakes, it's how they fix them in business that is important. Unfortunately, you can't keep everyone happy.
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