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good video on flat tappets cam issues

Posted By: jwb123

good video on flat tappets cam issues - 04/26/24 12:51 PM

Good video, this shops take on the flat tappet cam issues.



https://youtu.be/k_ExoIuTpks
Posted By: 6PakBee

Re: good video on flat tappets cam issues - 04/26/24 01:23 PM

Interesting. I had a long conversation with a legacy cam grinder about the "flat tappet failure problem" and he was emphatic that the majority of failures were caused by poor workmanship during manufacture. This video seems to support that, at least with lifters.
Posted By: gregcharger72

Re: good video on flat tappets cam issues - 04/26/24 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by 6PakBee
Interesting. I had a long conversation with a legacy cam grinder about the "flat tappet failure problem" and he was emphatic that the majority of failures were caused by poor workmanship during manufacture. This video seems to support that, at least with lifters.


Does this mean that NO ONE no longer makes quality flat tappet products . The roller cams seem to fail as well and require more maintenance. Such as periodic rebuilding. I don't see roller cams as the ultimate solution.
Posted By: Neil

Re: good video on flat tappets cam issues - 04/26/24 05:50 PM

https://youtu.be/e96szd_HbwE?si=YhYyEZYudIUOvG0f

https://youtu.be/pP_GYZWcpok?si=_qfYOe85l1pKVujB

https://youtu.be/AgMYbNX2DMY?si=nfW-QF1MkcgOh-SK

Not lifters, but use the trust but verify method these days to stay out of trouble.

https://youtu.be/OqmCeX88-JQ?si=MMJKr1V3JwsXXQo8

Lots of talk about this on Speed-Talk in the last few years if you Google it. Mike Jones aka Cam King on there appears to have good inside knowledge on who makes what.

https://www.speed-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=64079
https://www.speed-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=36327
https://www.speed-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11681
https://www.speed-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66769

Hylift Johnson lifters do not come with most the of big guys cam and lifter kits best I can tell. Some might, but I'd only trust a direct call to the cam company for that answer, or ask Hylift who they sell products to. The internet is full of rumors on where parts really come from so make some phone calls first. Lots of reboxed parts and poorly made parts in circulation these days and lots of finger pointing going on out there.
You have to buy these direct, or find a smaller vendor like Hughes who sells them exclusively. I have a set from Hughes and on the contact surface you can see the grinding cut marks. If you buy lifters from somewhere else and they are very smooth and polished looking chances are they didn't come from Hylift.

Also towards the bottom of this pdf they discuss lifters with different bleed down rates depending on your cam lift and spring pressures. People often complain about noisy lifters with bigger cams so maybe they have ones that cure that issue?

https://toplineauto.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Lifter-Application-Catalog.pdf
Posted By: A990

Re: good video on flat tappets cam issues - 04/26/24 06:37 PM

That Hy-Lift catalog is fantastic. Includes a buyers guide with all the body styles and dimensions.
Thanks!
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