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4.375 bore 440 piston ring choice

Posted By: 8urvette

4.375 bore 440 piston ring choice - 09/12/22 03:37 AM

I am going to re ring my 540- I gapped for a bunch of nitrous and now it has blow by- too much blow by.

My trans wont hold the nitrous power anyways and the motor is out- re ring it is. What is a good set of rings? I have been running total seal- should i stay and get something else? NA motor, no power adders.... okay maybe 200 HP of nitrous down the road. LOL.

Thanks in advance
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: 4.375 bore 440 piston ring choice - 09/12/22 04:30 AM

Call total Seal, Hastings, Icon and Perfect Circle and ask them what they want you to use on your deal and go from their scope twocents
I'm in the middle of assembling a 572 wedge(1000+HP on engine only luck) with around 400 HP+ of NOS with 14.2 to 1 compression) I'm planning on using E85, I bought the piston and rings from Icon after discussing this build with Glen (775-882-7790 ext. 159) at their tech center up scope
Posted By: CSK

Re: 4.375 bore 440 piston ring choice - 09/12/22 05:27 PM

I would get the new Total seal rings that have gas port cuts in them , unless your pistons already have gas ports LOL smile
Posted By: AndyF

Re: 4.375 bore 440 piston ring choice - 09/12/22 06:13 PM

4.375 is a common Chevy size so there should be plenty of choices.
Posted By: 8urvette

Re: 4.375 bore 440 piston ring choice - 09/13/22 02:40 AM

ok, new twist...





what now?

5 thousandths wont clean this up... i doubt 10 would fix it. what do i do now?



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Posted By: moparacer

Re: 4.375 bore 440 piston ring choice - 09/13/22 03:34 AM

Originally Posted by 8urvette
ok, new twist...





what now?

5 thousandths wont clean this up... i doubt 10 would fix it. what do i do now?



Sleeve time?

As far as rings I have been running Total Seals gapped AP rings....

I have seen them live through things that would eat other rings alive. For instance, I ran most of last year with a cracked #8 cylinder. Had to drain the water out after each race. Before I pulled it I decided to do a leakdown, and it was only 5 percent lol. Ran alky on it all year too boot.

A couple of times we reused the rings after a season of racing too. I do run a vacuum pump, but I have never had any blowby issue since my engine guy started using them.
Posted By: Jeremiah

Re: 4.375 bore 440 piston ring choice - 09/13/22 10:04 AM

For a 200 shot I'd run hellfire in 1/16-1/6-3/16 grooves and Mahle GNS if using 1.5-1.5-3.0mm

Burr on the ring? Lock coming out? Can you catch the horizontal scratches with a finger nail?
Posted By: 8urvette

Re: 4.375 bore 440 piston ring choice - 09/13/22 01:36 PM

Yea, I can catch a nail... very easily. It's deep. Probably 10 thous deep. It has to be a ring, not a lock as it is on wrong side for it to be a rod lock ring coming out.

What about just re ringing it and running it? It'll burn some oil maybe, but what else?
Posted By: Jeremiah

Re: 4.375 bore 440 piston ring choice - 09/13/22 02:03 PM

I have committed worse sins
Posted By: fast68plymouth

Re: 4.375 bore 440 piston ring choice - 09/13/22 03:19 PM

I’ve re-ringed way worse.
Posted By: Gabby63

Re: 4.375 bore 440 piston ring choice - 09/13/22 03:34 PM

I second the idea of a sleeve . Would not just re-ring it . Gary
Posted By: AndyF

Re: 4.375 bore 440 piston ring choice - 09/13/22 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by fast68plymouth
I’ve re-ringed way worse.


Yeah, for a race motor just re-ring it and go. It will puff a little blue smoke in the lights but big deal. You can freshen it over the winter.
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: 4.375 bore 440 piston ring choice - 09/14/22 07:31 AM

what caused that damage? F.O.D., Foreign object damage or what?
Sorry to see that whiney
Posted By: 8urvette

Re: 4.375 bore 440 piston ring choice - 09/14/22 01:33 PM

Not sure just yet.... it'll be a few days to possibly 2 weeks before I can get to it. Busy schedule.
Posted By: GomangoCuda

Re: 4.375 bore 440 piston ring choice - 09/14/22 06:03 PM

Is that damage in one cylinder or all of them? How far from the top of the cylinders do the scratches go? That will tell you if they are from a ring or piston skirt.

For now pick any junk from the skirts, give the cyllinders a few swipes with a glaze breaker, new rings.and run it till you want to fix it.

:Edited after looking at your pic again. Those scratches are pretty high up, close to where the top ring rides.
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