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Accumulator blocker rod/727

Posted By: '72CudaRacer

Accumulator blocker rod/727 - 06/18/22 01:04 AM

Anyone know the correct length for the accumulator blocker rod in a 727? My memory seems to think that it's 2.850", not sure I can trust it though. I ordered a bunch of parts and this one got left off the order. Don't want to wait until next week to finish this up.

Thanks, Brian
Posted By: moparx

Re: Accumulator blocker rod/727 - 06/18/22 08:03 PM

the one in my B&M manual kit is 2.952 long.
it's a solid rod, and if i ever use this kit, i will make a new rod out of tubing.
i can't tell you what the TransGo rod length is, as it's in my car at present.
beer
Posted By: John_Kunkel

Re: Accumulator blocker rod/727 - 06/18/22 08:16 PM

Either of those lengths will work as long as it's not too long to keep the VB from seating.
Posted By: moparx

Re: Accumulator blocker rod/727 - 06/18/22 08:25 PM

thanks John. up
beer
Posted By: '72CudaRacer

Re: Accumulator blocker rod/727 - 06/19/22 02:46 AM

Thanks guys. With the return spring out, it might not even need a rod. It's got one anyway.

Brian
Posted By: John_Kunkel

Re: Accumulator blocker rod/727 - 06/19/22 06:57 PM

With the spring removed, the accumulator still fully functions on the 1-2 upshift. Only way to stop its function is a blocker rod.
Posted By: 440lebaron

Re: Accumulator blocker rod/727 - 06/20/22 12:31 PM

mopar performance shift improver servo kit, .709 tubing 2.75 long
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: Accumulator blocker rod/727 - 06/20/22 03:08 PM

Does the rod hold it in or out of hole?
Posted By: DusterW2

Re: Accumulator blocker rod/727 - 06/20/22 03:44 PM

With the trans mounted in the car the rod goes in first then the
piston. So the rod spaces the piston toward the valve body
mounting surface.
Posted By: LA360

Re: Accumulator blocker rod/727 - 06/20/22 10:27 PM

My apologies for hijacking the post, but lets say you were building a case from scratch, am I right in thinking that you could scrap the accumulator circuit/system entirely if you were running a manual valve body??
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Posted By: John_Kunkel

Re: Accumulator blocker rod/727 - 06/21/22 04:21 PM

Many race valve bodies eliminate the accumulator with the goal of the firmest 1-2 upshift but doing so can lead to rear clutch failure. Ya pays your dime and ya takes your chances.
Posted By: 440Jim

Re: Accumulator blocker rod/727 - 06/21/22 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by John_Kunkel
Either of those lengths will work as long as it's not too long to keep the VB from seating.

Good point.
As I recall, the Griner valve body needed a shorter blocker rod than the standard factory VB.
But I don't think it uses that circuit anyway.

Attached picture Griner_RMVB7-post.jpg
Posted By: Brad_Haak

Re: Accumulator blocker rod/727 - 06/21/22 08:10 PM

After asking a number of questions here on this topic years(?) ago, I decided to use these parts when I had the valve body off before my trans went in w/ the engine:
https://www.sonnax.com/parts/1851-accumulator-piston-kit
https://www.ctpowertrain.com/sonnax-new-hd-enhanced-performance-valve-body-accumulator-spring/
Posted By: 727specialist

Re: Accumulator blocker rod/727 - 06/22/22 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by 440Jim
Originally Posted by John_Kunkel
Either of those lengths will work as long as it's not too long to keep the VB from seating.

Good point.
As I recall, the Griner valve body needed a shorter blocker rod than the standard factory VB.
But I don't think it uses that circuit anyway.




With the Griner you leave the accumulator out. Keith
Posted By: cagebob1

Re: Accumulator blocker rod/727 - 06/22/22 01:49 AM

First time I've heard that ! will leaving the accumulator piston in cause any problems?
Posted By: 727specialist

Re: Accumulator blocker rod/727 - 06/22/22 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by cagebob1
First time I've heard that ! will leaving the accumulator piston in cause any problems?


Not a problem unless it has a blocker that is to long and it holds the valve body up causing a leak.
All Griner valve bodies are this way. The accumulator does nothing.
The only exception is if it has the modification to get a line pressure from the accumulator port. Like the Pro Flite. Keith
Posted By: 451Mopar

Re: Accumulator blocker rod/727 - 06/22/22 12:40 PM

https://www.coperacingtrans.com/?product=727-904-518-618-billet-aluminum-accumulator-w-rod
Posted By: powertrip

Re: Accumulator blocker rod/727 - 06/22/22 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Brad_Haak
After asking a number of questions here on this topic years(?) ago, I decided to use these parts when I had the valve body off before my trans went in w/ the engine:
https://www.sonnax.com/parts/1851-accumulator-piston-kit
https://www.ctpowertrain.com/sonnax-new-hd-enhanced-performance-valve-body-accumulator-spring/


Thanks for those links, ordered the spring for my loooong term project. I have also thought that a heavier spring would be best for a street/strip car.
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