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New Small block

Posted By: fbs63

New Small block - 01/02/22 06:55 PM

I don't know if anyone noticed this at PRI but it looked interesting for the Small Block guys.

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Posted By: Hot 340

Re: New Small block - 01/02/22 07:02 PM

Ut oh, small block post...Somebody notify the "better to build a gen 3" crowd quick!
Posted By: RAY1969CARS

Re: New Small block - 01/02/22 08:04 PM

It’s the multi block

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Posted By: Neil

Re: New Small block - 01/02/22 09:24 PM

I'd guess a 'universal' type block would require you to figure out your own intake setup?

I think I'd rather have a Ritter block, assuming its correctly built and all that, before diving into a universal engine block if they are both equally durable and function the same in a street/strip car.
Posted By: RAY1969CARS

Re: New Small block - 01/02/22 09:58 PM

The bock that goes Both ways. !!! 😂😂😂 Not that there’s anything wrong with that 🤣🤣 Brought to you by the people that make the 10 in one screwdriver
Posted By: topside

Re: New Small block - 01/02/22 11:15 PM

Hmmm...china walls look like SBC, and the head bolt arrangement is interesting, some 4- & some 5-bolt.
Looks like a ton of water jacket too.
I too wonder about an intake, and for that matter the front cover and engine-mounting locations.
Interesting idea, though.
Posted By: HardcoreB

Re: New Small block - 01/04/22 01:39 PM

Nice find Bob. Any more details? When available? Cost? Has anyone built any platforms with it yet? When are you going to buy one?
Posted By: justinp61

Re: New Small block - 01/04/22 02:55 PM

A small block with Mopar heads and the distributor standing straight up in the front, that would blow some minds! shock
Posted By: Leigh

Re: New Small block - 01/04/22 05:01 PM

Web page?
Posted By: CMcAllister

Re: New Small block - 01/04/22 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by justinp61
A small block with Mopar heads and the distributor standing straight up in the front, that would blow some minds! shock


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Posted By: scottb

Re: New Small block - 01/04/22 11:26 PM

Small block ford with mopar valve covers is pretty much what a R6 motor is
Posted By: Plumb Wired

Re: New Small block - 01/05/22 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Leigh
Web page?


There is a website listed in the small print in the lower left corner on the first page in Bob's post, www.1spec.net which is not found. A google search for 1spec comes up with nothing but what is interesting is the street address for 1spec listed is the same as M&M Competition Engines in Franklin, IN. but there is no mention of 1spec on M&M's website. https://mmcompetitionengines.com/
M&M Competition Engines
1421 Amy Ln. Suite A
Franklin, IN 46131
Phone: 317-739-3187
Fax: 317-739-3189
Posted By: Leigh

Re: New Small block - 01/05/22 07:54 PM

Yes, I didn’t find anything either.
Posted By: A/MP

Re: New Small block - 01/05/22 10:18 PM

I tried to work with Dart, several years ago, on a generic block that would work with Mopar top end. A standardized short block that could be machined to fit the aftermarket LA heads, use some cheaper GM bottom end parts and make 2000+HP. Didn't have any traction. This looks promising.
Posted By: LA360

Re: New Small block - 01/05/22 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by scottb
Small block ford with mopar valve covers is pretty much what a R6 motor is


Other than having the distibutor in the front, I am not sure why you're think that. They have a 4.5" bore spacing and a mirror type port lay out, like the SB2.2, P7 and TRD heads.

Best I can tell, all the current Nascar stuff has the distributor in the front now.
Posted By: CMcAllister

Re: New Small block - 01/06/22 12:55 AM

These days, whatever name is cast or engraved in the valve cover, that's what it is.


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Posted By: scottb

Re: New Small block - 01/06/22 01:46 AM

P7 heads will not fit on a R6 block and the R6 block and heads were based off the Ford motor right from the head engine builder at Penske
Posted By: LA360

Re: New Small block - 01/06/22 03:50 AM

Originally Posted by scottb
P7 heads will not fit on a R6 block and the R6 block and heads were based off the Ford motor right from the head engine builder at Penske


I am well aware the P7 heads won't fit, I used it and other as examples of heads with the mirror port layout.
Posted By: fbs63

Re: New Small block - 01/06/22 12:03 PM

Being developed by M&M Competition Engines. They also make cast tunnel ram style intakes that fit various platforms. 1spec is the foundry that casts the parts. They are also casting a Gen III Hemi head for MMX. I figured guys would be interested since R blocks are scarce. I almost walked right by at PRI till I noticed the Gen III head. Started looking at the stuff and noticed the block. Would be an interesting combo with a 9.800 deck, stroke and P7 heads. I'm sure they can make a cast manifold.

HardcoreB
I'm to invested in a Gen III Hemi to start over. Everything for my 63 is fabbed for that so no changing direction now. Does peak my interest though. Be a GREAT motor for NA 10.5!
Posted By: 1Fast340

Re: New Small block - 01/06/22 12:30 PM

awesome!
Posted By: LA360

Re: New Small block - 01/06/22 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by fbs63
Being developed by M&M Competition Engines. They also make cast tunnel ram style intakes that fit various platforms. 1spec is the foundry that casts the parts. They are also casting a Gen III Hemi head for MMX. I figured guys would be interested since R blocks are scarce. I almost walked right by at PRI till I noticed the Gen III head. Started looking at the stuff and noticed the block. Would be an interesting combo with a 9.800 deck, stroke and P7 heads. I'm sure they can make a cast manifold.

HardcoreB
I'm to invested in a Gen III Hemi to start over. Everything for my 63 is fabbed for that so no changing direction now. Does peak my interest though. Be a GREAT motor for NA 10.5!


It's cool to see new stuff come out, however the Ritter XR2 is available in 9.6" and 9.2" deck heights and I think I've seen about 2 or 3 builds with one.
Posted By: CMcAllister

Re: New Small block - 01/07/22 03:00 AM

Ritters can be built for P7 heads. I believe the guys local to me have that one figured out.
Posted By: usp4u

Re: New Small block - 01/07/22 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by LA360
Originally Posted by fbs63
Being developed by M&M Competition Engines. They also make cast tunnel ram style intakes that fit various platforms. 1spec is the foundry that casts the parts. They are also casting a Gen III Hemi head for MMX. I figured guys would be interested since R blocks are scarce. I almost walked right by at PRI till I noticed the Gen III head. Started looking at the stuff and noticed the block. Would be an interesting combo with a 9.800 deck, stroke and P7 heads. I'm sure they can make a cast manifold.

HardcoreB
I'm to invested in a Gen III Hemi to start over. Everything for my 63 is fabbed for that so no changing direction now. Does peak my interest though. Be a GREAT motor for NA 10.5!


It's cool to see new stuff come out, however the Ritter XR2 is available in 9.6" and 9.2" deck heights and I think I've seen about 2 or 3 builds with one.


There has been a dozen or more Ritter builds with the v2.0 block and they are figured out pretty well. Back in May I was at Harshman's shop and there were about 5-6 sitting there awaiting machining.

Posted By: HardcoreB

Re: New Small block - 01/07/22 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by fbs63
Being developed by M&M Competition Engines. ... Does peak my interest though. Be a GREAT motor for NA 10.5!

Yes definitely has some potential! From what i see, based on the parity of rules structuring, the B1 BBM would be an equal player. Both wind up about the same weight. For 2022, I'm staying in my wheelhouse and just using what i have. Unlikely I'll do any NMCA. But the chatter is local tracks are adopting NMCA rules so, that's the direction I'm headed. pun intended
Posted By: LA360

Re: New Small block - 01/10/22 03:32 AM

Originally Posted by usp4u
Originally Posted by LA360
Originally Posted by fbs63
Being developed by M&M Competition Engines. They also make cast tunnel ram style intakes that fit various platforms. 1spec is the foundry that casts the parts. They are also casting a Gen III Hemi head for MMX. I figured guys would be interested since R blocks are scarce. I almost walked right by at PRI till I noticed the Gen III head. Started looking at the stuff and noticed the block. Would be an interesting combo with a 9.800 deck, stroke and P7 heads. I'm sure they can make a cast manifold.

HardcoreB
I'm to invested in a Gen III Hemi to start over. Everything for my 63 is fabbed for that so no changing direction now. Does peak my interest though. Be a GREAT motor for NA 10.5!


It's cool to see new stuff come out, however the Ritter XR2 is available in 9.6" and 9.2" deck heights and I think I've seen about 2 or 3 builds with one.


There has been a dozen or more Ritter builds with the v2.0 block and they are figured out pretty well. Back in May I was at Harshman's shop and there were about 5-6 sitting there awaiting machining.



Are you talking about the XR1 block for wedge heads? Or the XR2 for P7 heads?
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