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seat belts for race / street car

Posted By: 8urvette

seat belts for race / street car - 11/14/21 01:09 AM

What are you guys doing for seat belts on cars the see street use. I currently have nothing. I need something, even lap belts would be a step above what i have right now.
I have a roll bar installed, so I can do a harness, but not sure what i should get.

Cam lock style?
Not cam lock...

4 pt, 5pt? Thanks
Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/14/21 01:17 AM

If you are not going to race it buy a used harness or even a new one with expired certification for about half price twocents

Gus beer
Posted By: BloFish

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/14/21 01:53 AM

iagree
Posted By: INTMD8

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/14/21 02:01 AM

I have 2013 Chrysler 300 seats with integrated belts.
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/14/21 02:02 AM

Originally Posted by 8urvette
What are you guys doing for seat belts on cars the see street use. I currently have nothing. I need something, even lap belts would be a step above what i have right now.
I have a roll bar installed, so I can do a harness, but not sure what i should get.

Cam lock style?
Not cam lock...

4 pt, 5pt? Thanks





I have a set (5 point black latch style) that I just took out of my duster because the two year cert ran out. Pay the shipping and they are yours but honestly they only cost 60.00-70.00 new from summit. I usually sell them local for 20.00.
Posted By: GY3

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/14/21 02:11 AM

I love the RJS cam lock belts.

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Posted By: 8urvette

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/14/21 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
Originally Posted by 8urvette
What are you guys doing for seat belts on cars the see street use. I currently have nothing. I need something, even lap belts would be a step above what i have right now.
I have a roll bar installed, so I can do a harness, but not sure what i should get.

Cam lock style?
Not cam lock...

4 pt, 5pt? Thanks





I have a set (5 point black latch style) that I just took out of my duster because the two year cert ran out. Pay the shipping and they are yours but honestly they only cost 60.00-70.00 new from summit. I usually sell them local for 20.00.



I think I will need at least 1 new one. However, for the passenger I dont think an expired SFI will matter... Ill send you a message.
Posted By: procharged 484

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/14/21 03:19 AM

Most race belts are NOT DOT approved . Don't ask how I know .
Posted By: 8urvette

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/14/21 03:20 AM

Originally Posted by procharged 484
Most race belts are NOT DOT approved . Don't ask how I know .


I read that. I guess its still going to better than no belt at all!
Posted By: racerx

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/14/21 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by procharged 484
Most race belts are NOT DOT approved . Don't ask how I know .


But they NHRA approved....... shruggy
Posted By: jwb123

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/14/21 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by procharged 484
Most race belts are NOT DOT approved . Don't ask how I know .


probably the same way I know, a Missouri Highway patrol mentioned the fact that only DOT approved seat belts are to be used in vehicles driven on the highway. He did not give me a ticket just a warning.
Posted By: GY3

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/14/21 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by procharged 484
Most race belts are NOT DOT approved . Don't ask how I know .


My car didn't COME with seatbelts originally, so...
Posted By: theraif

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/14/21 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by GY3
Originally Posted by procharged 484
Most race belts are NOT DOT approved . Don't ask how I know .


My car didn't COME with seatbelts originally, so...

but you can still run down the track with 50 yr old lap belt
Posted By: moparx

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/14/21 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by theraif
Originally Posted by GY3
Originally Posted by procharged 484
Most race belts are NOT DOT approved . Don't ask how I know .


My car didn't COME with seatbelts originally, so...





but you can still run down the track with 50 yr old lap belt
!!!!!!!!!!!!! mad flame panic

and still, you MUST replace two year old, ALL SANCTION APPROVED, aftermarket belts THAT LOOK NEW !!!!!! down
i just don't get it. GREED seems to be the ONLY reason for this "rule"...........
beer
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/14/21 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by moparx
Originally Posted by theraif
Originally Posted by GY3
Originally Posted by procharged 484
Most race belts are NOT DOT approved . Don't ask how I know .


My car didn't COME with seatbelts originally, so...





but you can still run down the track with 50 yr old lap belt
!!!!!!!!!!!!! mad flame panic

and still, you MUST replace two year old, ALL SANCTION APPROVED, aftermarket belts THAT LOOK NEW !!!!!! down
i just don't get it. GREED seems to be the ONLY reason for this "rule"...........
beer



It’s not the money as much as it is the job itself. My black duster is semi easy but working upside down around the roll cage when you are old and fat is getting rougher each time. My blue car is a real pain in the butt. The seat has to come out and on a 6.50 cert car you have twice the number of bars to work around.
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/14/21 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by moparx
[i just don't get it. GREED seems to be the ONLY reason for this "rule"...........
beer
iagree
When NHRA made that rule NASCAR allowed the same belts to be used in their cars either(CRS whiney) 3 or 5 years before replacing them.
Those belts were in use in the sunshine and being used lots more hours that drag cars do work
Damn NHRA and its political decisions down
Posted By: racerx

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/14/21 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Originally Posted by moparx
[i just don't get it. GREED seems to be the ONLY reason for this "rule"...........
beer
iagree
When NHRA made that rule NASCAR allowed the same belts to be used in their cars either(CRS whiney) 3 or 5 years before replacing them.
Those belts were in use in the sunshine and being used lots more hours that drag cars do work
Damn NHRA and its political decisions down

iagree
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/15/21 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by 8urvette
Originally Posted by procharged 484
Most race belts are NOT DOT approved . Don't ask how I know .


I read that. I guess its still going to better than no belt at all!
iagree
I would bet money that any SFI certified 5 point race harness will protect you a lot better than any factory 3 point shoulder and seat belt combination in a bad crash work
Posted By: Blucuda413

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/15/21 02:03 PM

Years ago I gave a couple sets of my expired belts to my neighbor for an airplane he was building. He said they met FAA requirements!! ??
Posted By: jcc

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/15/21 11:11 PM

I seem to be one of few that really dislikes the safety aspect of 4 pt.

2, 3, 5 or 6 are all better IMO, although the 2 may not be much better if you have a roll bar .
Safety crews like belts a contrasting color from your race suit.
Black is always best for UV resistance.
Consider shoulder belts width size if a Hans is in use or in the future.
Posted By: 05dakota

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/16/21 03:30 PM

car wont pass nys safety inspection without dot approved belts
Posted By: GY3

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/16/21 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by 05dakota
car wont pass nys safety inspection without dot approved belts


We don't have safety inspections here.
Posted By: 05dakota

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/16/21 10:28 PM

if have a seat belt law that still arent legal
Posted By: GY3

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/16/21 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by 05dakota
if have a seat belt law that still arent legal


Been pulled over a few times. The seatbelts weren't even on their radar!

I'd rather be safe at the track than worry about whether or not a local cop is going to look at my seatbelts! Hell, they don't even care about drag radials with no tread around here. I've pulled up next to them with open headers on a bigblock and they just waved. Not everyone lives where the cops are a$$holes.
Posted By: jcc

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/17/21 01:45 AM

Originally Posted by GY3
Originally Posted by 05dakota
if have a seat belt law that still arent legal


Been pulled over a few times. The seatbelts weren't even on their radar!

I'd rather be safe at the track than worry about whether or not a local cop is going to look at my seatbelts! Hell, they don't even care about drag radials with no tread around here. I've pulled up next to them with open headers on a bigblock and they just waved. Not everyone lives where the cops are a$$holes.

Yet? stirthepot biggrin
Posted By: geo.

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/17/21 03:36 AM

Originally Posted by moparx
Originally Posted by theraif
Originally Posted by GY3
Originally Posted by procharged 484
Most race belts are NOT DOT approved . Don't ask how I know .


My car didn't COME with seatbelts originally, so...





but you can still run down the track with 50 yr old lap belt
!!!!!!!!!!!!! mad flame panic

and still, you MUST replace two year old, ALL SANCTION APPROVED, aftermarket belts THAT LOOK NEW !!!!!! down
i just don't get it. GREED seems to be the ONLY reason for this "rule"...........
beer


Totally agree with this! OK, I guess if your belts sit outside in a top down convertible or Jeep maybe two years is too long.
But these cars mostly sit in garages, and unless you're racing every week don't get that much sun.

I think I've seen a 4 pt set that had the shoulder harness stitched to the lap belt, (each side) may have been DOT approved.
You kind of slip your arms in and buckle the lap belt, pretty cool!
Posted By: racerx

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/17/21 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by moparx
Originally Posted by theraif
Originally Posted by GY3
Originally Posted by procharged 484
Most race belts are NOT DOT approved . Don't ask how I know .


My car didn't COME with seatbelts originally, so...





but you can still run down the track with 50 yr old lap belt
!!!!!!!!!!!!! mad flame panic

and still, you MUST replace two year old, ALL SANCTION APPROVED, aftermarket belts THAT LOOK NEW !!!!!! down
i just don't get it. GREED seems to be the ONLY reason for this "rule"...........
beer

Or there's the option to send in your old belts and have them recertified (thats been on the shelve pass the 2 year dating)and have a new certification tag sewed on .
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/17/21 05:48 PM

I have several different brands of harness that are out of date, Simpson won't recertify any of theirs now whiney New sales only down
Crow use to do mine with no problems, now they say they will redo their brand only twice, regardless of the conditions of the steel components.
They use to redo any brand work
I'm not sure about any of the other brands, I would ask them about redoing their brand before ordering from any manufacturer twocents scope
Posted By: an8sec70cuda

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/17/21 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by GY3
Originally Posted by 05dakota
if have a seat belt law that still arent legal


Been pulled over a few times. The seatbelts weren't even on their radar!

I'd rather be safe at the track than worry about whether or not a local cop is going to look at my seatbelts! Hell, they don't even care about drag radials with no tread around here. I've pulled up next to them with open headers on a bigblock and they just waved. Not everyone lives where the cops are a$$holes.

Same around here. I drove around for a few years on slicks and ET Fronts w/ race bullet mufflers on a 14:1 big block burning C12, lol. Don't drive like an idiot and you have no problems.

I have G Force 5 point harnesses in my car. Bought them in 2006.
Posted By: moparx

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/18/21 04:38 PM

have your belts been re-certified that many times, or does your local track not look at them ?
beer
Posted By: an8sec70cuda

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/18/21 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by moparx
have your belts been re-certified that many times, or does your local track not look at them ?
beer

Never been checked locally. up

The only time they got checked was 2008 in Memphis for the pump gas drags.
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/18/21 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by an8sec70cuda
Originally Posted by moparx
have your belts been re-certified that many times, or does your local track not look at them ?
beer

Never been checked locally. up

The only time they got checked was 2008 in Memphis for the pump gas drags.





Southern tracks are outlaw tracks with very few safety checks.
Posted By: an8sec70cuda

Re: seat belts for race / street car - 11/18/21 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
Originally Posted by an8sec70cuda
Originally Posted by moparx
have your belts been re-certified that many times, or does your local track not look at them ?
beer

Never been checked locally. up

The only time they got checked was 2008 in Memphis for the pump gas drags.





Southern tracks are outlaw tracks with very few safety checks.

Not all are outlaw. Even the sanctioned ones don't check. There are a ton of tracks down here compared to anywhere else though.
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