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Weighed the car and got a surprise !

Posted By: Tig

Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 05/30/21 03:03 PM

A lot heavier than we thought blush Still, that means we're making a bit more power than we thought smile
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Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 05/30/21 03:05 PM

WHAT do you have in the rear to get 51% of total?
Posted By: Tig

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 05/30/21 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by cudaman1969
WHAT do you have in the rear to get 51% of total?

At the rear, two batteries, half a tank full of gas. Dana 60, CDS cage ,Anti roll bar, beadlocks. Impact bar inside the bumper. 'chute mount.
The front has a real light glass hood, all alloy 580 motor. Lightened bumper mounts, no impact bar on the bumper, Tube K member, Wilwoods. lightwieght Holeshot front wheels (they are lighter than my convo pros anyway).
TBH I was expecting the car to be just under 3900lb with Driver.
Posted By: carnut68

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 05/30/21 03:34 PM

I really like that scoop. I might have to get one. Instead of running my old plastic newspaper box.
Posted By: Dragula

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 05/30/21 04:10 PM

Man, that is one heavy E-body!

Here is mine with an Mega block in CI.....

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Posted By: Tig

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 05/30/21 04:57 PM

Ahhh man.... at 3200lb i think we'd be knockin on the 8's laugh
Posted By: 440Jim

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 05/30/21 05:02 PM

Tig,
Is the motor set back a little from the stock location?

I am surprised it weighs that much, even with a driver.
My street 1973 Cuda no lightening, iron headed, iron block, full interior, Weld wheels is only 3600 lbs. (without driver).
Posted By: Tig

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 05/30/21 05:43 PM

Actually yes it is, We moved it back as far as we could when we mounted the engine with a plate, which was a while ago. It went back almost 3/4" IIRC and we used up all the slot on the trans mount but left enough room for trans bolts.
However at the time we forgot to factor in trans shields, they tend to be a PITA to fit now grin
It's always been heavy, with the 655 we guessed it was around 4000lb since the last time we weighed it was with a single Dom 572, it was around 3920lb then.
We have added stuff, but I really thought it would be lighter. It was 3819 lb without me in. It is what it is. smile
Posted By: dvw

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 05/30/21 06:08 PM

I cant see how the short overhang E body could be that heavy in the rear. I'm assuming with driver. When my 64 B body had 2 batteries it was 1530 lbs in the rear w/me ( 200lbs. ). Dana, full 5 gallon cell, 10lb fire system, rear wheel and tire combo are 58 lbs each, steel bumper and deck lid. Even the front end us 10lbs more than mine. All steel except 5he hood. And it's a Mega Block.
Doug
Posted By: Tig

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 05/30/21 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by dvw
I cant see how the short overhang E body could be that heavy in the rear. I'm assuming with driver. When my 64 B body had 2 batteries it was 1530 lbs in the rear w/me ( 200lbs. ). Dana, full 5 gallon cell, 10lb fire system, rear wheel and tire combo are 58 lbs each, steel bumper and deck lid. Even the front end us 10lbs more than mine. All steel except 5he hood. And it's a Mega Block.
Doug

shruggy Previous to this instance it was weighed was on the scale at the track. They are regularly calibrated, it had a 51/49 rear bias back then. With driver BTW.
Posted By: Tig

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 05/30/21 07:13 PM

OH another thing. This a European spec Challenger. It was shipped and assembled new in Belgium.
It's never been driven on US roads, perhaps a different safety spec ??
Posted By: CMcAllister

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 05/30/21 07:17 PM

You have an extra 500# of something in the trunk.
Posted By: Tig

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 05/30/21 07:51 PM

I wish I knew what it was, I'd take it out grin
Posted By: sasquatch

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 05/30/21 08:25 PM

Don't forget to add for your mirror on my bench.......LOL So it really is two tons of fun! With that weight doing those wheelies? Man
Todd
Posted By: Tig

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 05/30/21 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by sasquatch
Don't forget to add for your mirror on my bench.......LOL So it really is two tons of fun! With that weight doing those wheelies? Man
Todd

The rear bias is good Todd up maybe I should leave the old mirror in ??? I may well ruin a good working set up grin wink
Posted By: jughed

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 05/30/21 10:51 PM

Not surprised with it since you have the "al-you-minium" (as you limeys call it grin) block & heads and the motor offset.
My 68 Dart is 3200 w. me in it, but front heavy
Posted By: Tig

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 05/30/21 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by jughed
Not surprised with it since you have the "al-you-minium" (as you limeys call it grin) block & heads and the motor offset.
My 68 Dart is 3200 w. me in it, but front heavy


grin grin
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 05/31/21 05:31 AM

Is this weight with you in the car ready to race?
If not something is amiss I fear work Did you stand on one of those scales to verify how accurate that one is? If not maybe you should scope thumbs
Posted By: Tig

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 05/31/21 09:12 AM

We did with and without driver. It was 3819 with out me in it.. Which works out correct.
Posted By: second 70

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 05/31/21 04:04 PM

Tig my 70 Mega Block Hemi Cuda with alum. heads, 4 speed, S60 dana full interior weighs #3800 without me in it. No cage but a heavy shaker. The Stage V manifold is super light and the billet wheels save a lot of weight too.

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Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 05/31/21 04:35 PM

Could you get by with one battery? And maybe even change the remaining batt to a lighter one?
Posted By: Tig

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 05/31/21 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by second 70
Tig my 70 Mega Block Hemi Cuda with alum. heads, 4 speed, S60 dana full interior weighs #3800 without me in it. No cage but a heavy shaker. The Stage V manifold is super light and the billet wheels save a lot of weight too.


Glad to see it's not just me.... smile

Originally Posted by Pacnorthcuda
Could you get by with one battery? And maybe even change the remaining batt to a lighter one?


I just keep thinking I should really buy a rolling chassis that will end up light rather than mess with the Challenger. Having said that, next time its gets paint it might get a lot of glass parts grin
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 06/01/21 02:09 PM

My old blown 72 weighed in at 3990, all steel and factory glass. Moly 10 point cage and Dana and back then I was probably 220ish.
Posted By: jbc426

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 06/01/21 03:35 PM

1970 E-Body weighed in a few weeks ago at 4150 lbs ready to drive. I was surprised too.

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Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 06/01/21 04:25 PM

You aught to see what a new Challenger weights, thought my 2ton jack was broken, had to put my weight on the handle to push down
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 06/01/21 04:37 PM

My 1970 Grand Coupe Cuda S/P car, not street legal tsk weighs 2850 with my lard butt in the seat grin
It is currently certed to 7.50, runs high 8s at 150 MPH in the 1/4 mile, 5.50 in the 1/8 at 125 MPH E 85 bracket 400 stroker motor shruggy
It is for sale whistling
Posted By: FurryStump

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 06/01/21 05:01 PM

Not surprising, most are heavier than people think.
Posted By: Blues_Cuda

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 06/08/21 06:07 PM

Just for reference, my wife's street/strip/cruise night '70 Barracuda weighs 3603lbs without driver. NOTE: I had scaled it at the local truck stop years before and came up with an even 3600lbs. (Never thought the truck scale would have been that accurate.)

All steel, no fiberglass
Iron head 440
727
B-body Dana
Full stock interior
Steel wheels
Full exhaust
Manual steering and brakes
No AC
Battery up front
Approximately 5 gals of fuel

Never intended to be a race car, but runs low 11's @ 119mph in street trim.


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Posted By: HardcoreB

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 06/10/21 01:26 PM

Nice car but, much heavier than I would have expected. There's gotta be some 'low-hanging fruit' there?
Posted By: lancer493

Re: Weighed the car and got a surprise ! - 06/10/21 02:50 PM

Not wanting to hi-jack this thread. Cab you should post some pictures and detailed info on your SP Cuda that's for sale.Maybe I missed some, but sounds like a very interesting ride and I would like to know more as I am sure there are others that would too.Pretty light for that year Cuda, and quick too. Thanks, Bill
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