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Who to call for solid roller cam
Posted By: dragram440
Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/10/20 04:50 PM
I am putting a new set of Trick Flow power port 270 heads on my 500 CI RB and need to have someone spec a cam for me. I bought a used one and it doesn't seem to fit. The bearings seem to be to tight. Weird thing is I have had 3 different cams in these exact bearings. I would assume the used one I bought is bent or not the right tolerance to start with. I was going to call Hughes engines. Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance.
Posted By: tboomer
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/10/20 04:52 PM
Dwayne Porter..He will fix ya up right!
Posted By: markz528
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/10/20 05:07 PM
Dwayne Porter..He will fix ya up right!
What block are you using?
Posted By: dragram440
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/10/20 05:10 PM
Stock 1969 440 block. Same block i have been running the last 8 years with this 500" setup.
Posted By: Cab_Burge
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/10/20 05:11 PM
I'm sure Dwayne is good but you might want to call Bullet Cams,662-893-5670 or Ultradyne cams at 662-893-8022. They are in the same shop so either one should be able to help you on getting a good cam, they are Mopar specialists also
Posted By: n20mstr
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/10/20 05:13 PM
I use Scott Brown for any camshaft …..
IF you have cams that spin and one that doesn't? sounds like that cam may be a lil bent???. Usually if the bearings are new, they may be a little tight and need a scraping here and there, BUT that should be with any cam, not just one.
Good luck
Posted By: JERICOGTX
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/10/20 06:52 PM
With no disrespect to Dwayne, I like my Scott Brown cam. Now all my head work will go to Dwayne...
Posted By: dragram440
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/10/20 06:59 PM
How do I get a hold of Scott Brown? Not finding anything googling it.
Posted By: n20mstr
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/10/20 07:50 PM
How do I get a hold of Scott Brown? Not finding anything googling it.
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Posted By: Chargerfan68
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/10/20 09:41 PM
No question....Dwayne Porter for all and any camshafts!!
Posted By: Hemi Allstate
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/10/20 11:25 PM
I would call Dwayne Porter .
Mark
Posted By: mr_340
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/11/20 02:11 AM
I would call Billy Godbold at Comp Cams. I would bet he has the latest designs.
Posted By: mopar dave
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/11/20 02:54 AM
Whats the compression ratio?
Posted By: dragram440
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/11/20 03:22 AM
12.25-1 i might have the heads decked to get the chambers down a little. Trick flow 270 heads
Posted By: mopar dave
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/11/20 01:32 PM
street/strip I assume. I would take a look at the solid comp roller cam dragula is using in his race car. 270/278 110 23-000-9. Not sure how agressive it is. That really looks like a nice cam if ya want to make max power. Bullet has the old UD Harold cam grinds that were designed by the best in the business with aggressive ramps too or Lunati voodoo line, they were Harolds designs as well. Isky makes nice grinds too, but I couldn't get then to spend much time with me. Here's another Bullet/Harold Brookshire grind i'm looking at 269/275 688/645 108. If your looking for a cam that makes your valve train happy and long lasting call Dwayne. My current cam 270/275 is a SLF mild lobe, easy on valve train and in my 511 street/strip car going 10 O's. It all depends on what your doing.
Posted By: hemi-itis
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/11/20 01:40 PM
Funny thing about calling cam companies,,,,,called Comp for instance 5 times and got 6 different cams.
My next cam would be spec'd by Dwayne! It's all about the combination!!!
Posted By: MR_P_BODY
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/11/20 01:54 PM
How do I get a hold of Scott Brown? Not finding anything googling it.
I ran a Scott Brown cam for a few years.. that cam was just down right WRONG for my set up
and he speced it out and I didnt like the 112 center line which he really likes.. if this is a race
set up you would be better off with Ultridyne
Posted By: mopar dave
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/11/20 02:12 PM
Been there done that. Every cam guy has his own personal idea of what he thinks is needed and that's why we get those results and comp is not the best place to call for a cam spec. I agree, a matching combo is everything. If Harold was still around you would get the cam that made the most power and was as easy on valve train as possible. Some cam guys are very conservative and some are not. Harold was not conservative and still has some great old grinds.
Posted By: mopar dave
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/11/20 02:13 PM
I agree, my Scott Brown cam was way off with the 112LDA. My car couldn't get out of its own smoke with that cam.
Posted By: Thumperdart
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/11/20 03:06 PM
And why Isky is the best overall in MY world and all I use plus my roller has the most aggressive street-ish lobes while being easy on parts. 14+ years and changed springs twice and rebuilt the roller lifters once so far. Easy mid 9's and 6-teens so far and driven a good amount.......680-.660 276-281 on a 108 lsa w/97 degrees of overlap.....
Posted By: n20mstr
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/11/20 05:13 PM
I agree, my Scott Brown cam was way off with the 112LDA. My car couldn't get out of its own smoke with that cam.
Don't take it wrong, but sometimes the cam has to be matched to the converter etc. IM sure you and MR P know what you doing, just saying.
My buddy has a Nova, 3600lbs street car. Scott handled the cyl head porting, and the cam. Its a 565 BBC and it runs 9.30's . We haven't lit the plate yet....LOL
There are a few good suggestions in this thread, call a few and see what they say. My car runs pretty well, and I don't question Scott, whatever he says...I listen LOL
A lot of fast cars out there have Scott Brown cams in them and they don't even know it, only because a lot of tuners go through Scott and don't tell their customers where the cam came from or who spec'd it.
Hey I understand, not everyone will get great results and that's why there are a few great guys out there to work with.
Honestly I would talk to Dwayne ( I have never worked with him, but many here have) and or Scott. I think that's all you need to get a great cam for a Mopar
Posted By: AndyF
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/11/20 06:05 PM
I usually call Dwayne if I'm trying to figure out the best set of lobes for an engine but I've made good power with Scott Brown cams in the past. My all time favorite cam was a Harold grind back in the Ultradyne days. I had Bullet spec a cam for me on the last race engine and it ended up being a dog. I've gotten a bunch of poor performing cams from the Comp tech line over the years. Over the long run Dwayne has the best track record of any lobe picker that I've worked with. He just has a ton of experience with the lobe catalog and these types of engines.
Posted By: mopar dave
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/11/20 06:11 PM
I'm no expert on cam grinds, but what I see is large cubic inch(540+) and or high compression and or nitrous combos handle the wide lobe sep much better than low compression and smaller cubic inch motors. Mine was a 408 10.5:1 and the vert was a 3500 at the time. It hated that 112lda cam. I'm sure some may have had good results, but me, MR.P, and Don didn't and I used to see a lot of those for resale 10yrs or so ago. I'm glad yours is working good thou, that's cool.
Posted By: polyspheric
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/11/20 07:08 PM
calling cam companies
You're not going to get an engineer on the phone. That's Buffy-the-phone-girl, reading a prepared response from her screen. Not her fault, she's limited to recommending at least one product whether it's best for you is not her problem.
Another problem: understanding cams has 2 distinct subjects which overlap by accident:
1. how do the whirley bits function (this has naught to do with engines and combustion, just metal, springs and geometry - especially rocker arms)
2. what does the engine want the valves to do (and doesn't care if it's by pneumatic, solenoids, or pixie dust).
Just my 2¢? I don't know anyone of Harold's quality that you can get on the phone. Some of his comments are still on Speedtalk.
After 50 years, your radar gets really sharp at picking up "he sounded good, until he said that really stupid thing" (name on request).
Why you see big LSA numbers with big engines: they need HUGE duration, and that LSA is how they hide the overlap.
Posted By: scatpacktom
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/11/20 11:26 PM
These "who do I call" questions come up all the time... I can remember 15 plus years ago calling a few cam companies for a solid roller for a car with exhaust manifolds. I got so frustrated because I could hear the juice bag on the other end of the phone turning the pages. I didn't take any of their reccomendations, I basicly had a idea how much duration I wanted and knew how much lift would fit in the motor. I told them to spread the lobe center out as wide as the cam core would support.
Then through Ryan Johnson I heard of this guy Dwayne Porter that works with comp and had a very wide scope of dyno testing all kinds of racing engines...From 2 bbls with exhaust manifolds to stock eliminator to boat stuff. I gave Dwayne a call and tapped into his expierence...Naturally he was able to refine what some stupid kid came up with on his own.
Over the years, I have have bought more than a few cams...All sourced through Dwayne. I have directed many of my friends and family to use Dwayne's services with not one misfire...Not a problem ever!
Sometimes business comes down to... who you "want to get the money." All the names mentioned in this thread I'm sure are capable of getting you a cam that will work in your motor. Of all those names listed which ones post here on Moparts on a regular basis? Passing on their wealth of knowledge for free. Which ones can you call up on the telephone and have a conversation about YOUR car/combo and not feel rushed to get it all out in less than a minute? Then get advice you may not have known you needed with your cam purchace?
I just call Dwayne when I need a cam
Posted By: CSK
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/12/20 12:41 AM
These "who do I call" questions come up all the time... I can remember 15 plus years ago calling a few cam companies for a solid roller for a car with exhaust manifolds. I got so frustrated because I could hear the juice bag on the other end of the phone turning the pages. I didn't take any of their reccomendations, I basicly had a idea how much duration I wanted and knew how much lift would fit in the motor. I told them to spread the lobe center out as wide as the cam core would support.
Then through Ryan Johnson I heard of this guy Dwayne Porter that works with comp and had a very wide scope of dyno testing all kinds of racing engines...From 2 bbls with exhaust manifolds to stock eliminator to boat stuff. I gave Dwayne a call and tapped into his expierence...Naturally he was able to refine what some stupid kid came up with on his own.
Over the years, I have have bought more than a few cams...All sourced through Dwayne. I have directed many of my friends and family to use Dwayne's services with not one misfire...Not a problem ever!
Sometimes business comes down to... who you "want to get the money." All the names mentioned in this thread I'm sure are capable of getting you a cam that will work in your motor. Of all those names listed which ones post here on Moparts on a regular basis? Passing on their wealth of knowledge for free. Which ones can you call up on the telephone and have a conversation about YOUR car/combo and not feel rushed to get it all out in less than a minute? Then get advice you may not have known you needed with your cam purchace?
I just call Dwayne when I need a cam
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Posted By: polyspheric
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/12/20 01:14 AM
I would not presume to recommend a cam (except for those small number I've used personally,).
I would feel comfortable preferring 1 of 2 or 3 as a choice.
I would definitely recco not using some mentioned ("is 270° @ .050" a good choice for my 318 904 3.23?").
If Dwayne did your heads, he's the first person to ask.
Posted By: gregsdart
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/12/20 02:01 AM
And why Isky is the best overall in MY world and all I use plus my roller has the most aggressive street-ish lobes while being easy on parts. 14+ years and changed springs twice and rebuilt the roller lifters once so far. Easy mid 9's and 6-teens so far and driven a good amount.......680-.660 276-281 on a 108 lsa w/97 degrees of overlap.....
I too started with an Isky. A. RR735 grind with 1.55 rockers on a 528 alky motor with 440-1 heads. Went 8.77 with that cam at 153 mph at 1600 da and 3055 lbs. I had another more agressive cam cut and didn't see much if any improvement other than beating the snot out of my valvetrain. That rr735 was run with 340lbs on the seat.
Ole Ed Iskenderian understood cam design way back in the day. Those shelf grinds are VERY good designs.
Posted By: viperblue72
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/12/20 03:09 AM
I have limited experience with Duane Porter all goood. The one thing I can say worth mentioning is that he’s helped many many people on here. I’ve heard story after story on here and I’ve never heard a single negative experience. To me that speaks volumes.
Posted By: rb446
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/12/20 10:53 AM
Recently I put up a post about our newly acquired Big wedge motor my mate bought ready for this seasons racing at SPR
....I was asking for cam advice and intake/carb help. Its somewhat of a weird combo and my experience with something like that was minimal, having Race heads, street CR and a small solid roller not the best. Duane took the trouble in answering my posts and also spent time with me on pm's giving a cam recommendation with which lobes he thought would work with which springs, rockers etc. as I wanted to get some more out of what we had with the limit on CR which was a big restriction. Got to give it to him he was very helpful, where else can you get a good response like that on a forum from an expert in the field
Posted By: mopar dave
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/12/20 01:47 PM
Dwayne is a nice guy and very helpful here. With your 500 12.25:1 Dwayne will probable spec you something in the low to mid 260@50 max effort street/strip. My Dwayne spec'd 270@50 for my 11.25:1 511 was too much for the combo and it showed when I raised the compression to 12.5:1 as it really woke up. Another plus going thru Dwayne is you would always have him here for questions later.
Posted By: dragram440
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/18/20 09:19 PM
I ended up ordering a cam from Dwayne Porter. Definately glad I did. He took the time to go through all my info and I feel very confident after spending 45 mn on the phone with him. Called Bullet cams 5 times in the last week after filling out the form and left many messages to call me back and still haven't talked with them. Thanks again Dwayne.
Posted By: 440Jim
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/18/20 11:08 PM
I ended up ordering a cam from Dwayne Porter.
IMO your combo may be common in the last few years since the TF270 heads came out. Dwayne is familiar with it. So, I feel you made a good choice. Converter, gear, weight are variables other than engine. And user tolerance for valve springs is another.
Tell us your combo and the cam lobes and/or specs.
Posted By: 68 HEMI GTS
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/18/20 11:21 PM
Dwayne spec’d cam in my pump gas 511. Couldn’t be happier with it!
Posted By: dart9ss
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/19/20 06:25 AM
Dwayne or no cam !! When it comes to mopar he is the right person and a great guy. Its a 1 on 1 experience.
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Posted By: mopar dave
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/19/20 03:28 PM
What was your compression on that 511 and what did Dwayne give you for specs if you don’t mind sayin?
Posted By: 68 HEMI GTS
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/19/20 07:22 PM
What was your compression on that 511 and what did Dwayne give you for specs if you don’t mind sayin?
10.5:1. SFT 260/266@.050. nets a touch over .600 lift with 1.6 rockers. It’s drug my 69 roadrunner into the high 10’s with a six pack @ 4000#’s (with me).
I’m building another one right now for a 69 dart. 512 10.5:1 440-1’s with the solid roller from Andy F’s 470. I’ll be curious how it performs.
Cam for the one I’m building.
Posted By: dragram440
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/19/20 08:31 PM
1967 Charger, Leaf spring Drag radial. 499 CI RB, 1969 440 block .055 over bore, 4.150 Eagle crank, 6.768 Eagle H beam rods, 12.25-1 comp.Trick Flow 270 with the 1.56 Springs, Titanium locks. Super Victor intake, Holley 1050 Dom. Dougs 2" x 3 1/2" headers. as of now but might have the heads decked to get it around 13-1. 8" 5000 converter hopefully a little higher stall with new combo. Foot brake car. Dana 60 with 3.91 gears. 3700 lbs with me in it. Cam he picked is if I remember correctly. 275/278 @ .050 .709 lift be for deflection and lash. Suppose to have some aggressive lobes. Says it withh open and close the valves fast. If he is on here he might be able to say more about the cam. I didnt write anything down on it and can't remember exactly.
Posted By: mopar dave
Re: Who to call for solid roller cam - 06/19/20 09:29 PM
Ok, sounds real good.