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Trans lines

Posted By: fowl play

Trans lines - 04/08/20 02:01 AM

What do you use for trans cooler lines? Thinking of changing mine. What size?
Posted By: calrobb2000

Re: Trans lines - 04/08/20 02:09 AM


hi
5/16 line
mancinni has nice pre formed ones !
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Trans lines - 04/08/20 03:09 AM

That would depend on the trans... the 904 and 727 uses 5/16" and the 500 type use 3/8"
wave
Posted By: CMcAllister

Re: Trans lines - 04/08/20 03:37 AM

Race car? Street car? OEM? What cooler? Where is it mounted? What trans?
Posted By: fowl play

Re: Trans lines - 04/08/20 11:37 AM

727 trans race car only
Posted By: tabletop390

Re: Trans lines - 04/08/20 03:51 PM

I used the stainless braided line kit from CRT. Worked really well.

https://www.coperacingtrans.com/?product=cooler-install-kit
Posted By: W.I.N. Racing

Re: Trans lines - 04/08/20 04:11 PM

Stainless braided, usually make my own
Posted By: CMcAllister

Re: Trans lines - 04/08/20 05:18 PM

-6 teflon lined hose - like Aeroquip's TFE, .320"ID - with appropriate fittings and adapters. Use a cooler with threaded connections. The old rubber hose and hose clamps on barbed fittings are no good and create a huge mess when they blow apart.

I've mounted this stuff under the car, sometimes with a cooler with a small dedicated fan for the really abusive combinations, with good results. Saves all the plumbing and crap at the front of the car.

I've used -5 stuff when using it as connections for 5/16 tubing, but that stuff is oddball. -6 is much easier.
Posted By: polyspheric

Re: Trans lines - 04/08/20 05:59 PM

3/8" Bundyweld brake line with compression fittings and very short pieces of braided line where needed for small bends.
Using 3,000 psi stainle$$ braid for a cooler line is a bit overkill....
Posted By: CMcAllister

Re: Trans lines - 04/08/20 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by polyspheric
3/8" Bundyweld brake line with compression fittings and very short pieces of braided line where needed for small bends.
Using 3,000 psi stainle$$ braid for a cooler line is a bit overkill....


That will work IF the steel line is properly flared and/or adapted to AN or SAE and the hose installed using the correct threaded fittings. Hose clamps on braided hose is a mess looking for a place to happen.

I'm OK with overkill if it means I don't have to worry about it failing.
Posted By: krautrock

Re: Trans lines - 04/08/20 08:36 PM

i guess looking at the Cope site, the fittings for the lines at the trans should be 1/4" npt to whatever AN size you use.
I just ordered a derale stacked plate cooler from Mancini to hook up on my car since the rubber hose and clamps on the radiator trans cooler won't stop leaking...plus the existing steel lines rub on the everything...

probably just going to use some kind of flexible line or steel braided since moving steel tubing lines out of the way to pull the motor/trans seems annoying.
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Trans lines - 04/08/20 11:56 PM

You can order 1/4 NPT to #6 AN male adapter fittings and use #6 AN hose ends on #6 AN PTFE lined (Teflon) hose to make your own flexible tranny cooler lines up scope
I do on my race cars wrench
Posted By: moparx

Re: Trans lines - 04/09/20 04:11 PM

the fittings on a 727 are 1/8NTP, not 1/4, correct ?
beer
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Trans lines - 04/09/20 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by moparx
the fittings on a 727 are 1/8NTP, not 1/4, correct ?
beer
Your probably correct up I'm not sure confused workMaybe shruggy
When it gets down to using them I take them off the shelf and use them without looking at the numbers on the carton realcrazy
Posted By: moparx

Re: Trans lines - 04/10/20 05:07 PM

well, just to be sure my feeble old mind wasn't spouting BS information, i went out into the shop and checked a 727 that was on the cart.
it is indeed 1/8" NPT thread for the cooler lines.
hopefully, there was no confusion caused.
beer
Posted By: hemienvy

Re: Trans lines - 04/10/20 05:20 PM

How high is the pressure in the cooler lines ?
Posted By: CMcAllister

Re: Trans lines - 04/10/20 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by hemienvy
How high is the pressure in the cooler lines ?


Maybe 5-100PSI depending on the trans and how it's set up. Not much, but the chemicals in the oil and the heat need to be taken into consideration when choosing hose material and construction. Even the rubber lined AQP style hose is questionable.

There are -6 x 1/8" NPSM fittings available which rely on a gasket to seal vs. pipe thread. Helps eliminate the possibility of cracking a case from over tightening NPT fittings.
Posted By: moparx

Re: Trans lines - 04/10/20 05:47 PM

somewhere around 15-30 i think. shruggy
hopefully, someone can confirm this. i looked in the FSM and the ATSG books i have, and couldn't find it.
i just did a quick look, so i may have missed it.
beer
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Trans lines - 04/10/20 07:58 PM

I'm sure the pressure and volume are different at idle RPM than at 5500 RPM work grin
Posted By: B1MAXX

Re: Trans lines - 04/10/20 08:38 PM

I know some will think I'm realcrazy, and it is a racecar, but my bracket car has rubber-lined -4 ss braid and its been on there for at least 20 years.
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