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Race fuel prices??

Posted By: Since1822

Race fuel prices?? - 03/30/20 04:01 PM

Anyone buy any race fuel or drums lately? Wondering what the current prices are? Thinking this may be a time to have a drum or two delivered and save some cash.....
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Race fuel prices?? - 03/30/20 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Since1822
Anyone buy any race fuel or drums lately? Wondering what the current prices are? Thinking this may be a time to have a drum or two delivered and save some cash.....



Lol. I hope you find some lower priced fuel but I’m betting it won’t happen. Most of it was probably made last year and we all know race fuel prices usually only go up.
Posted By: Sammy

Re: Race fuel prices?? - 03/30/20 04:16 PM

Race gas will never go down.
It's not refined the same way.
Different chemicals are involved too.
I dont even want to start my little small block up with Q16 anymore.
Cost me $21.00 for each startup.
Posted By: W.I.N. Racing

Re: Race fuel prices?? - 03/30/20 04:26 PM

Yea, Race fuel prices don't reflect crude oil prices... and if demand goes down the price will go up.
Posted By: 440Jim

Re: Race fuel prices?? - 03/30/20 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by Sammy
Race gas will never go down.
It's not refined the same way.
Different chemicals are involved too.
I dont even want to start my little small block up with Q16 anymore.
Cost me $21.00 for each startup.
I agree.
On another note, regular (87 octane) unleaded pump gas is now $1.49 near me (NC), and going down fast.
Posted By: topside

Re: Race fuel prices?? - 03/30/20 06:47 PM

It's the hard-and-fast rule of racing:

High demand, prices go up.
Low demand, prices go up.
Posted By: one bad fish

Re: Race fuel prices?? - 03/30/20 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Sammy
Race gas will never go down.
It's not refined the same way.
Different chemicals are involved too.
I dont even want to start my little small block up with Q16 anymore.
Cost me $21.00 for each startup.
trust me i know
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Race fuel prices?? - 03/30/20 07:39 PM

160.00 a drum for alcohol. Cheaper than that in some places
Posted By: tubtar

Re: Race fuel prices?? - 03/30/20 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by topside
It's the hard-and-fast rule of racing:

High demand, prices go up.
Low demand, prices go up.


One of life's absolutes.
Posted By: superwrench

Re: Race fuel prices?? - 03/31/20 03:28 PM

Up here in the Great White North, I just paid $1025 Canadian dollars for 205 liter drum of C12. So about $700 US dollars the US equivalent of 55 gallons....so about $12.75 a gallon in your terms. Pretty damn pricey when you start going thru 8 gallons a weekend. Hopefully next years gas may be a tad cheaper with all the downturn in fuel prices...we can only wish...
Posted By: gregsdart

Re: Race fuel prices?? - 03/31/20 04:16 PM

E85 for up to about 13/1 compression and e98 race ethanol above that should make decent alternatives. I got a pm from a guy running e98 with 15/1 compression. Don't recall how but he was involved with promoting ethanol as race fuel.
I just found e98 Sunoco 54 gal drum for 375.25 a guy could use cheap e85 for warmup and e98 to run.
Posted By: Sammy

Re: Race fuel prices?? - 03/31/20 05:35 PM

$1100.+ for a 54 gallon drum of VP Q16.
Ridiculous
$110.00 for a 5 gallon pail.
Posted By: Since1822

Re: Race fuel prices?? - 03/31/20 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by Sammy
$1100.+ for a 54 gallon drum of VP Q16.
Ridiculous
$110.00 for a 5 gallon pail.


Wow....that is...ridiculous
Posted By: jcc

Re: Race fuel prices?? - 03/31/20 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by W.I.N. racing
Yea, Race fuel prices don't reflect crude oil prices... and if demand goes down the price will go up.


But crude prices are often stated as the reason why prices go up eyes
Posted By: A/MP

Re: Race fuel prices?? - 03/31/20 11:06 PM

I'm about 15 miles from where Sunoco makes their race fuel, and I can't get a deal. I can buy cheaper at Maple Grove which is 45 miles further out. Go figure.
Posted By: dvw

Re: Race fuel prices?? - 03/31/20 11:27 PM

No reason to run Q16 if your're not running heads up. I buy Renegade 114 plus. Runs 15-1 compression without issue. $585 a drum. I almost swaped to E 85 but the cost of the carbs pretty much out weighs the fuel cost savings. I spend more in Diesel getting to the track than race fuel costs. About $5 a run.
Doug
Posted By: Deepockets

Re: Race fuel prices?? - 04/01/20 02:28 AM

Hey Greg, I switched to E-85 (out of the pump)in the dragster at the end of last year. I'm at 14-.3 comp an it's working well. First of the year I ran a best of 7.37 @ 180. It's a pretty big camshaft that brings down some cylinder pressure. $2.99 per gallon.
Posted By: dOrk !

Re: Race fuel prices?? - 04/01/20 03:50 AM

Is there any EASY AND SIMPLE WAY to measure and MAKE this E85 mix dead on or made even a tad richer ?
Posted By: Deepockets

Re: Race fuel prices?? - 04/01/20 10:57 AM

I'm sure there is. I've got one of the basic $20.00 testers and it hasn't been off enough to have had to adjust the ratio. Lots of info out there on google search. If it's 85% ethanol and 15% gas, It sounds simple. I did read that it makes a difference when using unleaded V/S leaded gas to make adjustments.
Posted By: hp383

Re: Race fuel prices?? - 04/01/20 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Doc Fiberglass
Is there any EASY AND SIMPLE WAY to measure and MAKE this E85 mix dead on or made even a tad richer ?


The problem I have is I keep drinking the ethanol I make and never have any to blend.
Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Re: Race fuel prices?? - 04/01/20 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by hp383
Originally Posted by Doc Fiberglass
Is there any EASY AND SIMPLE WAY to measure and MAKE this E85 mix dead on or made even a tad richer ?


The problem I have is I keep drinking the ethanol I make and never have any to blend.

That should keep the virus away whistling

Gus beer
Posted By: gregsdart

Re: Race fuel prices?? - 04/01/20 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Deepockets
Hey Greg, I switched to E-85 (out of the pump)in the dragster at the end of last year. I'm at 14-.3 comp an it's working well. First of the year I ran a best of 7.37 @ 180. It's a pretty big camshaft that brings down some cylinder pressure. $2.99 per gallon.

Great info Don! Glad it's working for you. For lower compression motors ( say less than about 12.5/1)
I posted in another forum about mixing to a lower ethanol content for two reasons. By going lower , like to 50 or 60 pct ethanol you can always adjust the pump e85 down to what percent you want. The other reason is at some reduced percent (e50?) You should be able to run the mix in a box stock race holley. A e50 mix should be able to go richer to the 20 percent higher fuel flow required by the E50 versus reg gas. So if the fuel system can handle the extra flow and the carb a guy has can flow the right mixture, for some guys it could be a real win win.
Posted By: DusterKid

Re: Race fuel prices?? - 04/01/20 04:00 PM

I think 110 was $8.80 in early March when I checked. As other have stated it doesn't follow the trend of regular pump gas prices. I've never seen race fuel go down in cost...
Posted By: D-50

Re: Race fuel prices?? - 04/01/20 07:21 PM

This is the very reason I went with a pump gas motor. I got tired of the high price of race gas and hard to find it. I run 93 octane .
Posted By: 66coronet

Re: Race fuel prices?? - 04/02/20 12:45 PM

We pay $410 a drum for VP Blue which is C12.
We pay $580 a drum for 113.
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