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FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70
Posted By: DonnyBrass
FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/27/19 02:36 PM
FAST had our last race of the year at Maryland International Raceway, and Ed Cook had his 63 Savoy Max Wedge flying!
Multiple passes in excess of 130 mph and a personal best of 10.26 @ 131.70
Congrats Ed!
Posted By: fast68plymouth
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/27/19 03:00 PM
Nice job Ed !!
Posted By: nss guy
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/27/19 03:03 PM
Great job, that's one bad a$$ max wedge!
Posted By: 440Jim
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/27/19 03:11 PM
Finally good weather at the MIR Mopar event.
Fun, fun, fun...
Posted By: dvw
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/27/19 03:11 PM
It amazes me that it can run with-in a few tenths of an all out ideal run with full race suspension and slicks. Great job. I cant even imagine the amount of work its taken to get this far. Congratulations.
Doug
Posted By: GY3
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/27/19 03:25 PM
Very cool!
Posted By: Roughbird72
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/27/19 04:26 PM
Awesome!
Posted By: gregsdart
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/27/19 05:52 PM
I am guessing that the max wedge exhaust manifolds help a bunch? Still, very impressive!!!
Posted By: fast68plymouth
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/27/19 06:53 PM
Unless I’m mistaken......... the quickest and fastest 3 Mopar wedges that have run in FAST have all come out of Ed’s place.
Two A12’s(1 stick, 1 auto), and this MW car.
All have run deep into the 10’s on bias ply tires.
Posted By: A727Tflite
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/27/19 06:55 PM
How does that car get away with a hood scoop. I thought factory lightweight cars could not compete in FAST? No steel car ever had a scoop either.
As for running within a few tenths of a legal race car - about 70 + more cubic inches, fully ported heads, high ratio pistons with trick ring lineup, and .750 + lift. And i’m guessing a serious weight reduction program on the engine, trans and whole car.
Not knocking it or any other FAST car, they are a whole lot more than what they appear.
And for the tires. Read the rule book. Not uncommon to see them running bald tires that have been treaded to chemical compounds.
The class is sort of like a good magician. But pretty cool.
Lots of tricks from the old Woodward days.
Posted By: dvw
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/27/19 07:02 PM
How does that car get away with a hood scoop. I thought factory lightweight cars could not compete in FAST? No steel car ever had a scoop either.
As for running within a few tenths of a legal race car - about 70 + more cubic inches, fully ported heads, high ratio pistons with trick ring lineup, and .750 + lift. And i’m guessing a serious weight reduction program on the engine, trans and whole car.
Not knocking it or any other FAST car, they are a whole lot more than what they appear.
And for the tires. Read the rule book. Not uncommon to see them running bald tires that have been treaded to chemical compounds.
The class is sort of like a good magician. But pretty cool.
Lots of tricks from the old Woodward days.
I wasn't noting the mph itself. But how close the ET is for that mph on small tires, treated, bald or not.
Doug
Posted By: fast68plymouth
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/27/19 07:31 PM
As a reference, to Doug’s point...... the Moroso P/S calculator shows 131.7 to be worth a 10.12.
Pretty close!!
Most of the time in FAST the speed is way better than the ET(like Rick Mahoney’s Hemi Cuda that went 10.15@142).
Ed must have gotten blessed by the traction gods on that pass.
Posted By: A727Tflite
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/27/19 11:19 PM
Still curious how he gets to run a scoop.
Posted By: BSB67
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/27/19 11:28 PM
Well done Ed!
Posted By: hemi-itis
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/27/19 11:59 PM
Posted By: dannysbee
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/28/19 01:02 AM
The Hemi’s, A12’s, Corvettes, Cobra jet mustangs, all the heavy hitters run on 15’s. The Max Wedge cars run on 14’s which makes this feat even more impressive.
Posted By: gtx6970
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/28/19 01:18 AM
Unless I’m mistaken......... the quickest and fastest 3 Mopar wedges that have run in FAST have all come out of Ed’s place.
Two A12’s(1 stick, 1 auto), and this MW car.
All have run deep into the 10’s on bias ply tires.
Wasn't / is Mike Bonsanti still building the drivetrains for him ?
Posted By: RMCHRGR
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/28/19 01:34 AM
That's flying!
Posted By: XXHEMI
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/28/19 11:16 PM
Thanks Guys!
I have not run the car a lot in the past two years because of one thing or another and was almost loosing interest.
The car is running good. But I still have a lot more work to do and I think it will go faster. The car weighs 3352 and I weigh 350? no super lightweight package. Maybe next year I can get my son to drive.
(Trans man) you are correct the hood should not be on the car and believe it or not it has no advantage at all for this car except looks. Flat hood will be back on in the spring.
Dwayne the sixty foot on this pass was 1.54 which is it's best on the small tire. At the Yellow Bullet this year on slicks the car went 10.12@136 with 1.49 sixty
Posted By: topside
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/28/19 11:29 PM
What a nice - and killer - piece that car is. Incredible on so little tire.
I'm surprised the scoop doesn't help, but I'm assuming air cleaners would have lids off & air horns foam-sealed to the hood.
Posted By: A727Tflite
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/29/19 12:36 AM
What a nice - and killer - piece that car is. Incredible on so little tire.
I'm surprised the scoop doesn't help, but I'm assuming air cleaners would have lids off & air horns foam-sealed to the hood.
Good point, I forgot they have to run with air cleaners in place.
But that thing is still getting with the program. Amazing 60 foots.
Posted By: A727Tflite
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/29/19 12:44 AM
Thanks Guys!
I have not run the car a lot in the past two years because of one thing or another and was almost loosing interest.
The car is running good. But I still have a lot more work to do and I think it will go faster. The car weighs 3352 and I weigh 350? no super lightweight package. Maybe next year I can get my son to drive.
(Trans man) you are correct the hood should not be on the car and believe it or not it has no advantage at all for this car except looks. Flat hood will be back on in the spring.
Dwayne the sixty foot on this pass was 1.54 which is it's best on the small tire. At the Yellow Bullet this year on slicks the car went 10.12@136 with 1.49 sixty
Since you are certainly in the know on this class - do the cars go through weigh-in as part of tech? How about weight distribution check ? Just wondering as I have been thinking of running something and when I read the rules I don’t be see any mention of weight.
Thanks. And congrats on that performance.
Posted By: XXHEMI
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/29/19 01:19 AM
No Weight rules.
Make it as light as you can!.
Posted By: GY3
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/29/19 02:29 AM
Can I be nosy and ask how much ballast and where/how it's located?
Posted By: RMCHRGR
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/29/19 02:41 AM
No Weight rules.
Make it as light as you can!.
Where do you think FMJ gets all his weight reduction ideas from?
Posted By: 383man
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/29/19 06:59 AM
Congrats on the new best in that sweet 63 Ed. That's a good 60 ft on them tires. I thought cars that came on 14" tires could upgrade to 15" tires in FAST but it sounds like I was wrong ? A 1.54 60 is amazing on them tires as you seem to really do your homework and its paid off. Congrats again on an awesome job.
Ron
Posted By: 340Cuda
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/29/19 02:34 PM
Still curious how he gets to run a scoop.
I wonder as well but I think NHRA allows them on all the 63 and 64 Max Wedge and Hemi cars, plus T/A and AAR hoods on a lot of engine combos that I don't remember having them. Same thing with single four barrel hemis, I don't remember seeing any on the street or the drag strip back in the day
All I can guess is that Chrysler must have given some pretty vague documentation that is being interpreted in a way favorable to Mopar brands.
This is all fine with me as the other manufactures have done the same thing.
Posted By: 340Cuda
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/29/19 02:35 PM
Good job! 63 Plymouths are one of my favorites!
Posted By: 340Cuda
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/29/19 02:38 PM
I am guessing that the max wedge exhaust manifolds help a bunch? Still, very impressive!!!
KInd of a mixed blessing, I have been told the exhaust systems weigh about two hundred pounds and I know from personal experience they throw off a lot off heat under the hood.
Posted By: powertrip
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/29/19 03:39 PM
Thanks Guys!
I have not run the car a lot in the past two years because of one thing or another and was almost loosing interest.
The car is running good. But I still have a lot more work to do and I think it will go faster. The car weighs 3352 and I weigh 350? no super lightweight package. Maybe next year I can get my son to drive.
(Trans man) you are correct the hood should not be on the car and believe it or not it has no advantage at all for this car except looks. Flat hood will be back on in the spring.
Dwayne the sixty foot on this pass was 1.54 which is it's best on the small tire. At the Yellow Bullet this year on slicks the car went 10.12@136 with 1.49 sixty
Wow that car is flying! And it's doing it at a higher weight than I would have guessed! Ed, is there anything about that combo you would share with us? Specifically, what has been done with that intake manifold and carbs? Everyone says that intake will cost 100hp over a good 4 barrel intake. Also, curious to which rear end you are running?
Good Job Ed !
Posted By: Jeremiah
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/30/19 02:38 AM
Amazing car! Do they typically run factory carbs (i.e. AVS, AFB, Holley 4160 etc) or can you cheat and use an Edelbrock or holley hp place of the OEM carb?
Posted By: racerx
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/30/19 10:13 AM
Nothing to add here but "Very impressive " on a 14" tire
Posted By: BradH
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/30/19 01:23 PM
Nothing to add here but "Very impressive " on a 14" tire
x2
Posted By: an8sec70cuda
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/30/19 02:14 PM
Very impressive considering everything they have to work with! I can't imagine the R&D that goes into making one of these FAST cars work like this.
Posted By: dannysbee
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/30/19 02:40 PM
Not to take anything from Ed as his car is one of my favorites. Tom Hoover and his son built a 1964 Plymouth to run in pure stock. It also is a max wedge and runs on the same tires. With unported heads no stoker and a flat tapper 520 lift cam runs mid 11’s at 120 mph Got to love a max wedge.
Posted By: FurryStump
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/30/19 03:23 PM
Congrats Ed! In the past some people tried to treat the tires with chemicals, but at this point I don’t think that it is done and certainly not wide spread. The tires are very worn if not bald.
Posted By: John Brown
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/30/19 05:03 PM
Congrats Ed! In the past some people tried to treat the tires with chemicals, but at this point I don’t think that it is done and certainly not wide spread. The tires are very worn if not bald.
I can verify that. Soaking these tires is a waste of time. And money. The rubber on reproduction bias plys is already soft, and treating them makes the rubber so soft that it will almost fall off when doing a burn out. Totally worthless.
Posted By: XXHEMI
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/30/19 06:03 PM
Amazing car! Do they typically run factory carbs (i.e. AVS, AFB, Holley 4160 etc) or can you cheat and use an Edelbrock or holley hp place of the OEM carb?
Everything but the block is supposed to be factory OEM parts with correct part numbers. You can do what ever possible to make your parts better as long as they keep there stock appearance.
I do not treat the tires. I shave them down to the wear bars and start burning em up from there. A good set of tires are priceless!
Posted By: pittsburghracer
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/30/19 06:45 PM
Amazing car! Do they typically run factory carbs (i.e. AVS, AFB, Holley 4160 etc) or can you cheat and use an Edelbrock or holley hp place of the OEM carb?
Everything but the block is supposed to be factory OEM parts with correct part numbers. You can do what ever possible to make your parts better as long as they keep there stock appearance.
I do not treat the tires. I shave them down to the wear bars and start burning em up from there. A good set of tires are priceless!
So you are saying it’s an aftermarket block with stock pistons, cranks, rods, cams, intake manifolds, carbs, etc etc, but they can use a tire and compound that is modified. If so that’s super fast for that combo. Even for Fall type weather at an east coast track. Congratulations
Posted By: n20mstr
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/30/19 06:51 PM
congrats ED on getting the car running well.
Impressive for sure on that tiny tire !
Posted By: krautrock
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/30/19 09:24 PM
Amazing car! Do they typically run factory carbs (i.e. AVS, AFB, Holley 4160 etc) or can you cheat and use an Edelbrock or holley hp place of the OEM carb?
Everything but the block is supposed to be factory OEM parts with correct part numbers. You can do what ever possible to make your parts better as long as they keep there stock appearance.
I do not treat the tires. I shave them down to the wear bars and start burning em up from there. A good set of tires are priceless!
So you are saying it’s an aftermarket block with stock pistons, cranks, rods, cams, intake manifolds, carbs, etc etc, but they can use a tire and compound that is modified. If so that’s super fast for that combo. Even for Fall type weather at an east coast track. Congratulations
i think they can use stroker cranks, different rods and pistons, but the heads have to appears stock, the intake has to be stock, same with carbs and exh manifolds...
cam is whatever they want to run, but not sure if it has to sound stock???
Posted By: fast68plymouth
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/30/19 09:30 PM
It’s really pretty easy.......
“Correct” castings for heads, intake, exhaust, carbs.
You can do anything to them that doesn’t appear incorrect when the motor is fully assembled.
If you’re not a front runner type car, then using the exactly correct heads, intake, carb, etc isn’t quite as important.
For example, if you have a 70 GTX 440 4bbl combo running 12.70’s, no one is going to be upset that you have 452 heads on the motor instead of 906’s.
Posted By: 1969gtx
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/31/19 01:46 AM
grate job Ed can't wait to see how fast it goes with a little more sorting I can see it going 9.80s or faster
Posted By: stickman60
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/31/19 07:46 AM
So you are saying it’s an aftermarket block with stock pistons, cranks, rods, cams, intake manifolds, carbs,
Those are usually big displacement engines (Hemis @498cu. ?, others up to 600cu) with 'stock' internals, custom cams with long duration, extrude honed exhaust manifolds
and probably intakes as well. Absolutely amazing.
Posted By: Cab_Burge
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 10/31/19 05:02 PM
I love 63 Plymouths, 2 door hard top and sedans
I've own and race several of them, the Aluise family owns my 415 HP Belevdere 2 door sedan old NHRA stocker and they have set the NHRA record in A/SA several times with it years ago.
My old M.W. Belevedere 2 door hardtop is in Finland now, not sure if it is being raced still or not anymore
I have a 1963 2 door Fury now that I'm planning on making it into a nice street car
Posted By: Beeware
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 11/01/19 02:16 PM
Congrats Eddie !!!
Good to see the Maxie back on track and haulin !!!
Hookin and Leavin hard!!!!
Posted By: Hemi_Joel
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 11/04/19 05:06 AM
Atta boy, Ed! That thing is really hauling the mail.
Ron, all cars have to use the stock rim diameter:
14.00 TIRES AND WHEELS AND BRAKES
14.01 Wheels must be correct*, including correct* diameter, width and material.
Note: Width may be upgraded to a maximum of 6”, if the correct* wheel is narrower than that. Reproduction wheels OK.
14.02 All 4 wheels and tires must be same size.
Exception: Mopar TA Challenger came from factory with G-60’s on rear and F-60’s on front.
14.03 Original equipment reproduction bias-ply tires only. No soft compound tires of any kind are allowed. Retread tires are not allowed. Any car is allowed to upgrade to a maximum size tire of G-70 of the correct* wheel diameter. All cars that were originally available with a 60 series tire can upgrade to a maximum size of G-60 tire of the correct* wheel diameter.
Posted By: FurryStump
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 11/04/19 07:47 PM
Amazing car! Do they typically run factory carbs (i.e. AVS, AFB, Holley 4160 etc) or can you cheat and use an Edelbrock or holley hp place of the OEM carb?
Everything but the block is supposed to be factory OEM parts with correct part numbers. You can do what ever possible to make your parts better as long as they keep there stock appearance.
I do not treat the tires. I shave them down to the wear bars and start burning em up from there. A good set of tires are priceless!
I didn’t know “shaving them down” stands for doing burnouts, late at night, under the cover of darkness way out in the back of the pits? Hehehehehe
Posted By: dstryr
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 11/04/19 09:10 PM
Nice job, cool to see those times coming down!
Posted By: Tommy D
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 11/05/19 01:21 AM
Way to go Ed! Been a fan of your's for years. Black, fast, RB-motored B-bodies....what's not to like? As for those '60 foot times...OUTSTANDING! Just reach to the side and slide that bench back as far as possible...and drive with your toes and finger tips. Awesome job!
Posted By: 383man
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 11/10/19 05:53 AM
Atta boy, Ed! That thing is really hauling the mail.
Ron, all cars have to use the stock rim diameter:
14.00 TIRES AND WHEELS AND BRAKES
14.01 Wheels must be correct*, including correct* diameter, width and material.
Note: Width may be upgraded to a maximum of 6”, if the correct* wheel is narrower than that. Reproduction wheels OK.
14.02 All 4 wheels and tires must be same size.
Exception: Mopar TA Challenger came from factory with G-60’s on rear and F-60’s on front.
14.03 Original equipment reproduction bias-ply tires only. No soft compound tires of any kind are allowed. Retread tires are not allowed. Any car is allowed to upgrade to a maximum size tire of G-70 of the correct* wheel diameter. All cars that were originally available with a 60 series tire can upgrade to a maximum size of G-60 tire of the correct* wheel diameter.
Thanks Joel. Congrats again Ed as I love that 63 of yours.
Ron
Posted By: XXHEMI
Re: FAST - Ed Cook goes 10.26 @ 131.70 - 11/10/19 12:13 PM
Thanks again everyone.
Joel when are you coming back? We need some Hemi help!.
As good as the car is runnung it will never catch the Corvette or Dave's Hemi