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Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump-solved!

Posted By: 440Jim

Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump-solved! - 05/17/19 01:52 AM

I found a surprise on the Daytona I bought.
The stock oil pump hits the steering linkage, where the filter mounts to the pump.
The stock unit is too wide at the filter boss. The pump itself clears fine, past the universal joint.

Does anyone make an oil pump cover to use a remote filter mount, but doesn't use the circle of the stock filter/mount?
I would prefer to not change the entire engine over to an external pickup system and pan.
The engine is built, dyno tested, and ready to race. And it doesn't turn over 6000ish RPM.


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Posted By: 440Jim

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump - 05/17/19 01:55 AM

Here is the view from the side. The engine needs to go back about 1" and down about 3/4", but it hits the steering linkage.


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Posted By: Stanton

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump - 05/17/19 02:25 AM

440Source makes an awesome unit AND the price is right !!

Well I just checked their website and it looks like they no longer have them BUT if it were me, I'd give them a call - you never know, they may have a couple left.
Posted By: LA360

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump - 05/17/19 02:41 AM

Milodon make one from memory
Posted By: AndyF

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump - 05/17/19 02:42 AM

I made this cover a few years back. It might work for you. The lines point straight down out of the cover so you'll have to look to see if the fittings would clear your steering. The other option is to use the Milodon 21225 which routes the oil lines out the front of the block. That cover would clear your system but you'll need to invest in a remote filter. I have a CV housing sitting on the shelf if you're interested. I sold off the last of my Milodon stash last year otherwise I would've had everything you needed.


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Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump - 05/17/19 03:09 AM

I use the Milidon pump cover that is set up for using fittings and hoses to the remote HP6 type oil filter up scope
I wish I knew how to post pictures on here so I could show you mine in my tube chassis car with steering like yours whiney
Let us know what you do thumbs
Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump - 05/17/19 03:27 AM

I removed an accusump and a dual remote oil filter set and replaced it with a system one oil filter.Wish I did it years sooner but we all know how that goes.Andy has a cover so it would be a snap.
Posted By: Hessu

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump - 05/17/19 07:52 AM

Milodon web page: https://www.milodon.com/oil-system/components.php
Posted By: 440Jim

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump - 05/17/19 10:48 AM

I am using the internal oil pickup.
I only need to have the fittings on the pump for the remote filter.
These pump covers that include both the remote filter fittings, and the external oil pickup lines, can I just plug the pickup line holes?
Will they then work with the internal oil pickup passages (stock/hemi)?
For example, the Milidon-21225
[img]https://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/mediumlarge/mil-21225_ml.jpg?rep=False[/img]
Posted By: sgcuda

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump - 05/17/19 10:55 AM

There shouldn't be any issues if you wanted to plug off the external pickup line and just use your existing internal setup, as long as you use the same pump. Some of the race pumps don't have holes drilled for internal pickup.
Posted By: rickseeman

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump - 05/17/19 02:41 PM

I've never had a chassis car that didn't have the same interference. All you are going to change is the top cover. There are several on the market. The billet aluminum Milodon as already shown is a nice one.
Posted By: 1974 474 Duster

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump - 05/17/19 03:27 PM

I have the same issue on my Daytona. I use a NAPA Gold 1311 short filter on it. Shouldn't see much debris & let's face it. You can always change the filter & add 1/2qt of oil
See ya, Ken
Posted By: ZIPPY

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump - 05/17/19 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by 440Jim
I am using the internal oil pickup.
I only need to have the fittings on the pump for the remote filter.
These pump covers that include both the remote filter fittings, and the external oil pickup lines, can I just plug the pickup line holes?
Will they then work with the internal oil pickup passages (stock/hemi)?
For example, the Milidon-21225
[img]https://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/mediumlarge/mil-21225_ml.jpg?rep=False[/img]


I have never owned a 21225, but I bought the 21215 and remember it had provisions for both internal and external pickup,
and either port could have been blocked off to run the other.

Since it's kind of the same family of parts, I would be surprised if the 21225 was not the same.
Posted By: John_Kunkel

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump - 05/17/19 04:06 PM

This would probably work but I can't remember who made it.

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Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump - 05/17/19 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by John_Kunkel
This would probably work but I can't remember who made it.




Don’t hold me to it but I think Canton offers some nice stuff.
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump - 05/17/19 05:28 PM

I haven’t finished the oiling system on my head up car but it’s real tight in the oil pump area too

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Posted By: keefe

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump - 05/17/19 05:48 PM

Hi Jim how are ya ,Nice Daytona.
I saved this article a while back , it might have what your looking for.
Its a 505 build that used a external pump / filter system , the articles was done in 2010
so hopefully the pump parts are available.

https://www.americanmusclecarsaustralia.com/forum/index.php?topic=3526.0
Posted By: AndyF

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump - 05/17/19 06:00 PM

That is my old 505
Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump - 05/17/19 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by hemi-itis
I removed an accusump and a dual remote oil filter set up to a system and replaced it with a system one oil filter.Wish I did it years sooner but we all know how that goes.Andy has a cover so it would be a snap.


2 short hoses from the pump to the filter up

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Posted By: TRENDZ

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump - 05/17/19 09:14 PM

As mentioned earlier, the milodon cover would be a direct bolt on. All your clearance issues would be gone with that cover. You don’t need to use that cover as an external feed.

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Posted By: 440Jim

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump - 05/18/19 01:16 PM

I will buy the Milodon 21255 cover.
Since this engine has the internal 1/2 (hemi) pickup, I will plug the suction port.
In the future, if I ever build a higher RPM engine and want a single line external line pickup, it can be used.
Posted By: 440Jim

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump - 05/22/19 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by 440Jim
H The engine needs to go back about 1" and down about 3/4", but it hits the steering linkage.
And the reason it would not go back any further, was the lower frame mounts for the midplate were hitting the JW Mopar bellhousing on the PG transmission. I called the seller, and he cut notches in his JW bellhousing. I decided to just rotate the midplate frame mounts.

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Posted By: 440Jim

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump - 05/22/19 06:08 PM

I finished cutting off the old midplate mounts. Made new ones, and finished welding and painting them this morning.
Drilled new holes in midplate to match.

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Posted By: 440Jim

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump-solved! - 05/24/19 04:12 PM

The Milodon oil pump cover worked great.
Plenty of clearance now!

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Posted By: AndyF

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump-solved! - 05/25/19 05:25 AM

Looks nice and clean. You shouldn't have any issues with clearance for the lines or fittings. I'd use #12 lines but if you prefer #10 lines they should work okay as long as the runs aren't too long. Good luck, looks like you'll be racing pretty soon.
Posted By: DblOJoe

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump-solved! - 05/25/19 11:07 AM

What pan did you use? Mine had the same issue.

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Posted By: 440Jim

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump-solved! - 05/28/19 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by Dbl"00"Joe
What pan did you use? Mine had the same issue.
I didn't build or design this engine. It was new and ready to go at the right price so I bought it. It has a center sump, 8qt steel pan with 1/2 internal oil pump pickup (hemi style).

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Posted By: 440Jim

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump-solved! - 05/28/19 12:52 PM

Joe,
What low mount alternator mount did you use?
I have a super mini Powermaster (93mm?), and your location looks good to me.
Posted By: AndyF

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump-solved! - 05/28/19 03:06 PM

Looks like he might have the DMI alternator bracket on there.
Posted By: DblOJoe

Re: Remote oil filter adapter for BB pump-solved! - 05/30/19 12:46 AM

Yep it's the DMI bracket. I'd get the brace with it if you get one it stiffens it up a bunch.
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