Edelbrock Victor heads

Has anybody ran the Edelbrock Victor small block Chrysler heads and how do they compare to the W5 heads I'm running W5 on my 416 in 3: 40 the car weighs 3400 lb with me in it and it runs 6: 39 at 107 miles per hour in the eighth how do you think the Edelbrock Victor's will do on this engine

the only reason I'm thinking about changing is my W5 leak a little bit of water in one cylinder every once in awhile if I could seal them up I would stay with them any suggestions

I know Brett Miller was working on a couple deals with Victors, maybe he'll chime in.

. I think the Victor would be worth quite a bit of horsepower over the W 5s in the right hands.. like all heads they have some things you would change but they definitely can move a ton of air... I have seen Flow numbers in the 390 range.. on a set of Victors that Brett Miller did and we're flowed at QMP in California

I’ve been watching with interest since the intro of these heads into the catalog back in 12. Our W5 mill expired from water injection into the #3 cyl (2nd time). We were going to center our build around our second set of W5’s, but after the “didn’t you learn anything the first time” conversation with our builder, we sold everything W5 and patiently waited for a head that never appeared. I was actually surprised that we completed our W8 build and still no Victors back in 14.
Brett is nearing the end of a build (Victor on Ritter block) that had been completed and ran, but don’t know the details on what happened, but it ended up in his hands. That was the only engine that I’ve heard of that ran with these heads.
I understand that many of these heads go to Aussi... maybe some of those members can chime in.
Like everything Mopar related.... bad timing. If we have blocks, we don’t have heads. If we have heads, we don’t have blocks.

The Victor had supposedly flow 3: 35 at 700 right out of the box that's what my W5 flow with a lot of work

There are couple guys who have posted on here running Victors. One guy i think goes by Lawndart, the other guy has like a 68 cuda he runs on a stop with them if i remember right.

does anyone have any ideas what I can put in my radiator to seal up the horse W5 heads I used to run just some regular sealer in it and it worked fine for a couple of years now it has started leaking in the number 5 cylinder after it sets a couple days

I used to run W5’s myself.
About the stoutest i have seen them run( and i am sure there are better) is right at 140 mph at 3320 ish. That on super stock springs. I know it made 708 when dyno’ed at Best Machine. The ET agrees with that. Thats my old car and motor, but the motor was upgraded, cam/squeeze/ gas porting, etc. from when i had it. I think J went 138 with his
I would think the Victors have the potential to make 150 more horse than that, perhaps more. Just a guess.

Call Ryan at Shady Dell speed shop

Call titan sealer Best sealer out there

Waterglass (sodium silicate) works on cracked cast iron heads and blocks. Can't see why it wouldn't work on aluminum. You have to be careful with how much you use as it will plug a rad up solid. It has that glass nickname for a reason.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_silicate

Kevin

GM seal tabs. Work very well.

https://www.ebay.com/p/Genuine-GM-123782...4970&chn=ps

Unless his plan of attack has changed, he would epoxy it. In our case it came out, and locked the motor up on the return road 150 passes later. Took only 50 passes to figure out the original port work found a thin spot so we tore it down and sent the head back. I could write a novel on this painful experience, but here’s what I’d do. I’d try any sort of sealer. I’d probably try the GM tablets, or the CRC block sealer. Next would be to remove the head and look into any sealer/epoxy that could be flowed into the cooling passages.

Btw back then the car wasn’t 9 legal so my dad shifted at 5500 and was running low 10s. On one pass they shifted at 7200 and ran a 9.84 iirc. I think at 136....

Jay

What else besides the heads, rockers, head studs, and likely pushrods.......are required to do the swap?

Pistons still okay?
Headers I think are supposed to fit.
Valve covers?
Intake manifold?

The thing I find odd about the Victors is that while they require special everything they use a standard LA intake.

I kept my Super Victor EFI manifold just in case the money fairy(lottery) allows me to replace my Ported W2s with Victors one day.

New pistons are needed

It’s not a cheap
Upgrade

We ran a set of the CNC heads and a Super Victor intake with nothing more than clean up CNC marks on the heads and match the intake on a 440 inch Ritter block.We used the Hughes rockers at first.They work fine under .700 lift and are affordable and the assembled heads come with valves and springs good to .650. The bore on ours was 4.185 so a piston had to be made but dome was no different than W5.Valves are at a different angle so check piston to valve clearance.You will also need to replace push rods.Valve covers are standard LA and we drilled our W2 headers to fit and they worked.It is worth the effort to swap to the Victor heads IMO because they are available, they don't leak water and they make good power.Brett Miller has a program and has worked on our heads. We had an intake made along with other changes to see how far we can take this combo,which BTW should be on the pump this week.

Ray

Requires different header. TTI now makes them.... pricy.... 1200 ish
Different valve angle..... custom piston?
Pricy rocker gear

Most of the guys appear to be using these on bigger bore aftermarket blocks too so the larger valves and a .030 over 360 block may not play well together.

You say “at first”, but aren’t they on the motor in that pic?

The first build used a .650 lift cam and Hughes rockers. It ran 9.20s at 2800lb. We wanted more so changed cam and put T and D rockers on, went 9.00s. Still wanting more it now has Jesel rockers another cam, fabricated intake,among other things.

Ray

Thanks for chiming in Ray.... I have to think yours is one of higher end Victor builds out there. Hope it makes you happy on pump day!

Jay

Ray,

Thanks for sharing, please keep us posted.

Bill

All the parts are in, need to finish a few things.Still planning to make some noise this week.

Ray

Looks like that should be able to give the block a workout.