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Grease exiting green bearings

Posted By: Mr340

Grease exiting green bearings - 05/02/18 08:17 PM

End of the season last year the rear end (8 3/4 3.91 cone suregrip) started making some noise, a constant growl. the noise does not change turning right or left which makes me think it's in the center section but when I pulled the wheels & drums this is what i saw on the left axle.

what do you guys think? time to change the wheel bearing? since they are sealed I would think this is not a good thing, or is it just the bearing in the center section? any Ideas on further diagnosis?
Oh yea 489 case.
now that it's finally warming up I need to get the car ready for some action.

thanks,
Gary

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Posted By: hemi-itis

Re: Grease exiting green bearings - 05/02/18 08:44 PM

You need to diag the rear anyway,they don't last forever.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Grease exiting green bearings - 05/02/18 08:51 PM

Needs to be replaced.. how long has it been in
there
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Posted By: Mr340

Re: Grease exiting green bearings - 05/02/18 09:50 PM

Checked my notes and the axles with the greens have been in since nov. of '13 so thats 4 seasons, and the gear and sure grip longer, probobly another 3 years. lotss long than I thought,seemed like just yesterday LOL. whistling
Posted By: Cuda340

Re: Grease exiting green bearings - 05/03/18 05:33 PM

Are you running inner axle seals? If no, that could be your problem. I have been told (take it with a grain of salt) but is has some validity. That the bearings aren't totally sealed. The oil will eventually seep in and wash the grease out. It is possible that this is happening. If you have the seals. Out goes my theory... lol
Posted By: Mr340

Re: Grease exiting green bearings - 05/04/18 02:51 AM

Originally Posted By Cuda340
Are you running inner axle seals? If no, that could be your problem. I have been told (take it with a grain of salt) but is has some validity. That the bearings aren't totally sealed. The oil will eventually seep in and wash the grease out. It is possible that this is happening. If you have the seals. Out goes my theory... lol


I am runnning inner seals..but thanks for the thought.
Posted By: Clanton

Re: Grease exiting green bearings - 05/04/18 03:00 AM

I find it hard to believe it cooked so much to expel that much grease.I would think there is bearing damage/heet.Pull the axle and check/spin the bearing
Posted By: NTOLERANCE

Re: Grease exiting green bearings - 05/04/18 03:31 AM

I’m guessing the leaking bearing is bad and overheating blowing the Grease out

Pull that axle and feel the bearing is what I would do.
Posted By: Mr340

Re: Grease exiting green bearings - 05/04/18 09:42 PM

pulled both axles today and they both feel nice and smooth, no grease coming out the right hand axle bearing. I have my old axles with the tapered bearing, maybe I'll throw those in and take it for a ride just to see if the noise is still there.
I'm thinking it's the center section but the bearing leaking still will need to be replaced.
Posted By: Mr340

Re: Grease exiting green bearings - 05/05/18 01:48 AM

Found the noise now I just need to figure out why the grease was leaking

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Posted By: Clanton

Re: Grease exiting green bearings - 05/05/18 02:03 AM

Originally Posted By Mr340
Found the noise now I just need to figure out why the grease was leaking
How easy was it to pull the leaking axle?Maybe the housing is bent on that side.or if you had new ends put on the housing it could be crooked by .010
Posted By: Bad340fish

Re: Grease exiting green bearings - 05/05/18 03:30 AM

I did the same thing to my 8.75. It got noisey and when i pulled the center I found the same thing as you, a few broken teeth. It had been together for a long long time as the car had progressively gotten faster. We were both lucky we caught it before it let all the way go!
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Grease exiting green bearings - 05/05/18 06:06 AM

Is the pinion yoke loose? scope
The teeth marks on the posi are from the pinion gear backing up into it shock shruggy
One of the hazards of using the crush sleeves on a hard leaving car work
If you still have the crush sleeve in your rear end now is the time to swap it out for a pinion spacer and switch to pinion shims to set the bearing preload up properly up twocents
Posted By: Mr340

Re: Grease exiting green bearings - 05/05/18 01:23 PM

Good eye Cab, up I knew someone would spot that. Pinion is good, those marks are from a previous install. wrench
Posted By: Mr340

Re: Grease exiting green bearings - 05/05/18 01:35 PM

Clanton, the housing and the ends are the ones the car was born with and the axles seemed to go together and come apart ok, no extra binding. shruggy
Posted By: Clanton

Re: Grease exiting green bearings - 05/05/18 02:49 PM

Originally Posted By Mr340
Clanton, the housing and the ends are the ones the car was born with and the axles seemed to go together and come apart ok, no extra binding. shruggy
Ok thanks,If it was bent the side load would cause more heat in the bearing.
Posted By: Mr340

Re: Grease exiting green bearings - 05/05/18 03:01 PM

Originally Posted By Bad340fish
I did the same thing to my 8.75. It got noisey and when i pulled the center I found the same thing as you, a few broken teeth. It had been together for a long long time as the car had progressively gotten faster. We were both lucky we caught it before it let all the way go!


only had one chipped tooth so yea good thing I caught it be fore any more damage happened. Last time at the track I felt what I thought was tire slip half way out, drive must of been the gear, just glad it didn't let go altogether. hammer
Posted By: moparjoe360.4

Re: Grease exiting green bearings - 05/05/18 08:04 PM

Good eye Gary, definitely better to catch that because of a noise instead of compete failure! I let dad burrow The center and axles out of the truck last year for Nostalgia Drags and it has now developed a noise, hopefully it’s something simple. Good luck getting yours fixed hope to see you at Milan next month.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Grease exiting green bearings - 05/05/18 09:51 PM

Those bearings werent designed for street driving
but great for straight line stuff.. all the cornering
might have taken their toll on them
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Posted By: Mr340

Re: Grease exiting green bearings - 05/06/18 02:08 PM

I don't street drive it that much, a few local cruises and up to woodward once or twice that week, thought they would hold up to that. shruggy

Joe, hope yours is something minor. wrench
Posted By: Bad340fish

Re: Grease exiting green bearings - 05/06/18 02:12 PM

My green bearings lasted through 12 or 15 years of street driving and drag racing before I had one start to make a little noise. I wouldn't sweat driving them on the street.

I always ran inner axle seals on my 8.75 but on the Dana I just built the moser housing ends don't set the seal deep enough to fit, i guess I will find out how much impact the seal has on bearing life.
Posted By: rumblefish72

Re: Grease exiting green bearings - 05/06/18 07:34 PM

Is your axle tube vent clogged? A clogged vent plus heat is the only thing I could think of that could create pressure buildup inside the housing to push the axle bearing grease out like that.
Posted By: Mr340

Re: Grease exiting green bearings - 05/07/18 01:45 PM

Originally Posted By rumblefish72
Is your axle tube vent clogged? A clogged vent plus heat is the only thing I could think of that could create pressure buildup inside the housing to push the axle bearing grease out like that.


Good thought, I'll check it out.
I installed another center section i had(4.30 w/ clutch sure-grip), cleaned everything up,put the axles back in and took it for a ride. Everything sounded good, noise gone. I will drive it a bit and check the axles again, but rite now they seem fine. up
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