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Market for high end race cars

Posted By: Al_Alguire

Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 05:17 AM

Just wondering if anyone has any insight as to whether high end racecars are selling these days? If so are they bringing good money or are they being bought at a reduced rate? Inquiring minds are curious
Posted By: 2QUICK4U

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 05:31 AM

hey al,what are you thinking? are you going to put the cuda up for sale?
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 05:49 AM

Well everything is for sale........For the right price

I found something that interests me and has been for sale for a fair amount of time with no price change. Just curious what is going on with these kind of cars. Are they still bringing premium money these days?
Posted By: topfueldart

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 08:03 AM

In my opinion, high end cars come with high end owners. Most know what the cars cost to build, and even if they aren't quick to sell, the owners can usually afford to hang onto them.

That being said, especially over time, everything is negotiable....
Posted By: MegaDart

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 11:47 AM

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has been for sale for a fair amount of time with no price change



probably why it is still for sale. It is a buyers market for anything, even high end racecars.
I just bought a very high end 6.0 roller for about 1/3 of the build cost including 10clutch T/S trans and 10" nitrous convertor, bottles, racepak, etc.

what I found is the owners of the name brand cars, Bickel, Haas, etc. are less apt to lower the price significantly. Trust me, even the rich have fallen on hard times. The largest home builder in our county just laid off ALL his employees yesterday, was on the cover of todays paper.

here is a sneak peek!

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Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 01:16 PM

I think times are harder in most places in the country
and that being said you might make the owner a offer,
the most he will say is no. I'm sure he thinks if he
waits he MIGHT get his price.... but then again he
might be hurting also
Posted By: QWK_ENUF

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 01:21 PM

i don't think there is a market for any car unless you give it away right now
Posted By: Bigcube

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 01:36 PM

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I just bought a very high end 6.0 roller for about 1/3 of the build cost including 10clutch T/S trans and 10" nitrous convertor, bottles, racepak, etc.

...

here is a sneak peek!


What'cha got there???
Posted By: hemicop

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 01:43 PM

I don't think anything is selling right now. I've had my Altered for sale for awhile now, at a fairly reasonable price , even wanted to trade it, & have only receive ONE inquiry.....
Posted By: 2QUICK4U

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 04:17 PM

here is a sneak peek!


is this the blue avenger from new jersey.if so i have been eye balling this car for some time.nice car.
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 04:21 PM

No not an Avenger...Just not many Mopars out there and the ones that are are overpriced IMO. You dont really want to know what it is.
Posted By: B1Fish540

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 04:24 PM

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No not an Avenger...Just not many Mopars out there and the ones that are are overpriced IMO. You dont really want to know what it is.



Purple Duster?
Posted By: Triple Threat

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 04:29 PM

Well I'm graduating this year with a degree in Economics so here is the basic theory which for the most part holds true.

High end race cars or high end items in general can be classified as luxury goods. Regardless of how the general economy is doing, these higher end items aren't affected nearly as much as your standard everyday good. Although there might be some effect (price goes down), its hard to quantify the amount on an individual basis. The only real thing you can do is talk to the owner and try to determine why they are selling it and how hard up for cash they are.

Super luxury goods such as yachts or other items that millionaires/billionaires purchase aren't effected at all in times like these. And sales of inferior substitute goods, cheap beer, top ramen things of that nature actually see jumps in sales.

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 05:05 PM

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No not an Avenger...Just not many Mopars out there and the ones that are are overpriced IMO. You dont really want to know what it is.



im guessin its a blown 55 chevy...

casey
Posted By: Quicktree

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 05:10 PM

kind of look like a vette to me
Posted By: atoetly

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 05:16 PM

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Well I'm graduating this year with a degree in Economics so here is the basic theory which for the most part holds true.

High end race cars or high end items in general can be classified as luxury goods. Regardless of how the general economy is doing, these higher end items aren't affected nearly as much as your standard everyday good. Although there might be some effect (price goes down), its hard to quantify the amount on an individual basis. The only real thing you can do is talk to the owner and try to determine why they are selling it and how hard up for cash they are.

Super luxury goods such as yachts or other items that millionaires/billionaires purchase aren't effected at all in times like these. And sales of inferior substitute goods, cheap beer, top ramen things of that nature actually see jumps in sales.





I hope that top ramen does not go up in price I live on that stuff
Posted By: 2QUICK4U

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 05:25 PM

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No not an Avenger...Just not many Mopars out there and the ones that are are overpriced IMO. You dont really want to know what it is.



hey al,i was talking about the car in megadarts post pic.
Posted By: biff426

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 05:31 PM

I don't know how high end my car is/was but I had to offer sexual acts and finally traded for another car cash is hard to come by in most parts of the country now
Posted By: Jeepmon

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 05:46 PM

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I found something that interests me and has been for sale for a fair amount of time




Oh I know.. I know.. Its the Harley Davidson Daytona Anniversary Limited Edition Motorcycle my friend has for sale because of the bad economy.. She is desperate for cash and did lower the price to $10K...

Is that what has peaked your interest Al??


(Sorry.. couldnt resist the opportunity for the cheap plug.. continue on)
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 06:30 PM

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No not an Avenger...Just not many Mopars out there and the ones that are are overpriced IMO. You dont really want to know what it is.



hey al,i was talking about the car in megadarts post pic.



looks like a late model camaro to me...

Casey
Posted By: BDS871Cuda

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 07:05 PM

My buddy just bought a mint 68 RR 383/4 speed car
90,000 miles, numbers matching. around $14k
Lot's of stuff out there for 1/3 to 1/4 cost.
Just like houses, now is the time to buy.

I was hearing Dan Dye might have another
Cuda forsale at a good deal.
Posted By: mopartony

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 07:05 PM

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has been for sale for a fair amount of time with no price change



probably why it is still for sale. It is a buyers market for anything, even high end racecars.
I just bought a very high end 6.0 roller for about 1/3 of the build cost including 10clutch T/S trans and 10" nitrous convertor, bottles, racepak, etc.

what I found is the owners of the name brand cars, Bickel, Haas, etc. are less apt to lower the price significantly. Trust me, even the rich have fallen on hard times. The largest home builder in our county just laid off ALL his employees yesterday, was on the cover of todays paper.

here is a sneak peek!



Looks like a '96ish Bickel built Camaro with Koni electric shocks. Looks like the twin to the one I crew on, same blue and "deck surface" in the back.
Posted By: 2QUICK4U

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 07:36 PM

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has been for sale for a fair amount of time with no price change



probably why it is still for sale. It is a buyers market for anything, even high end racecars.
I just bought a very high end 6.0 roller for about 1/3 of the build cost including 10clutch T/S trans and 10" nitrous convertor, bottles, racepak, etc.

what I found is the owners of the name brand cars, Bickel, Haas, etc. are less apt to lower the price significantly. Trust me, even the rich have fallen on hard times. The largest home builder in our county just laid off ALL his employees yesterday, was on the cover of todays paper.

here is a sneak peek!



Looks like a '96ish Bickel built Camaro with Koni electric shocks. Looks like the twin to the one I crew on, same blue and "deck surface" in the back.





Posted By: cudabunch

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 07:42 PM

Wayne, lets see some more
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 07:52 PM

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No not an Avenger...Just not many Mopars out there and the ones that are are overpriced IMO. You dont really want to know what it is.



it's not just high end race cars , look at what some of these fruit loops want for 4dr, /6 darts ... it's a MOPAR thing
Posted By: 40ford

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/05/09 09:41 PM

The "high end" is affected---but not much. When the market dropped so much, a lot of high end people paused for a while---then resumed their spending habits. And they are still spending serious $$$ for serious cars. Most of the high end people get more off their investments than they can spend anyway----so why slow down?

Case in Point:
1. A friend has a large street rod building business(employees 13 people). Their business slowed last November(election shock), but now they are booked out 15 months. Their street rods generally start at $100K+.
2. National record holder drag cars are selling for the same amount as two years ago. Sales may take more time---but the price isn't dropping.
3. New stock car chassis are booked out as long as ever---but used chassis are getting cheap. Front running oval track guys want new chassis, used chassis go to "back markers".

My comments may not be scientific---just my observations.
Posted By: BobR

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/06/09 01:32 AM

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No not an Avenger...Just not many Mopars out there and the ones that are are overpriced IMO. You dont really want to know what it is.



I think you know by now that I don't care if it's not a Mopar. What is it, Al?
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/06/09 03:29 AM

Well while this is not the exact car it would be one of these. Let the bashing begin. I have been having so much fun trying to make the Cuda faster I just want more, and frankly my porky pig Barracuda is not gonna do it. I want a TS Grudge TYPE car...This car with my engine would run 7.50's easily IMO.

Dont get me wrong. There are some very nice 6.0 Mopars for sale I just think they are not priced accordingly. The above Vette is a McAmis car for $45 roller. What appeals to me is the weight The above car weighs 2055lb race ready. Most of these I have inquired about are there or less for the most part.

I am still actively looking for a 6.0 Mopar and frankly that Cuda last year would have been the car but IMO the price was top high. I can find a similarly set up Vette for $20+K less. While there are a few Mopars out there that are more reasonably priced those just dont appeal to me.
Posted By: Triple Threat

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/06/09 03:36 AM

Personally, I'm a racer first and a Mopar guy second. I will race anything and respect anything regardless of who designed it way back when.

At just over 2000lbs, (Plus a couple for Al's girlish figure) it won't take much power to put one into the 7's to run T/S competitively. Best of luck with it Al if you choose to go that direction. I'm sure it would be a lot of fun. And if you need a pilot for the cuda, I'd be more than happy to help
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/06/09 03:42 AM

Well part two of this equation is my son will be needing a car to race as well..Not sure I can talk the wife into this deal, but hey she is in Iraq what can she do
Posted By: ChrisJohnston669

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/06/09 03:46 AM

Hey Al..that vette is from up here in the northwest. would you believe that it smacked the wall first run out...then sent back to mccamis to be fixed lol. then my buddy daryl got it and kicked butt in it. It's a good car but wow...gotta be 5'5 to drive it.
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Posted By: Triple Threat

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/06/09 03:53 AM

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http://www.racingjunk.com/category/25/Pro_Modified/post/1463248/2006-DODGE-STRATUS-.html



55K rolling ouch.
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/06/09 03:55 AM

Like I said that is not the car I am after, just the same type car. The one I am actually talking to the owner about is a Bickle car. Just put up that pic for comparison sake.

We are also looking for a project for my son. I should have never sold the Valiant but it seemed like a good idea at the time. It would have been perfect for him. Now I need to find something similar. But if possible and I can swing it I am not against buying a car for me and letting him try out the Barracuda, slowed down a bit. Not sure he can make the jump right from a 16 second Honda to an 8 second car.

Eric, That is fugly for one but IMO overpriced. You can buy a similarly equipped brand Xer for less. Heck my buddy in Texas has a 6.00 TT Mustang for $66K T/K that will run 7.0's on a soft tune. Dont think I have not considered something like that either. Like always my issue is finding something I fit in.

Was just curious what you guys thought heard about some of the higher end stuff.
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Posted By: ChrisJohnston669

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/06/09 04:14 AM

Al, my dads duster is the perfect starter car. It's a sharp car. Could be put back on the street to.
Posted By: 2QUICK4U

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/06/09 04:43 AM

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Well while this is not the exact car it would be one of these. Let the bashing begin. I have been having so much fun trying to make the Cuda faster I just want more, and frankly my porky pig Barracuda is not gonna do it. I want a TS Grudge TYPE car...This car with my engine would run 7.50's easily IMO.

Dont get me wrong. There are some very nice 6.0 Mopars for sale I just think they are not priced accordingly. The above Vette is a McAmis car for $45 roller. What appeals to me is the weight The above car weighs 2055lb race ready. Most of these I have inquired about are there or less for the most part.

I am still actively looking for a 6.0 Mopar and frankly that Cuda last year would have been the car but IMO the price was top high. I can find a similarly set up Vette for $20+K less. While there are a few Mopars out there that are more reasonably priced those just dont appeal to me.



i hear ya al.i love the split window,corvettes.you are correct,the other guys prices are much more reasonable and you can buy a turn key for the price of a mopar roller.
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/06/09 04:45 AM

Eric,The Daytona is nice. Especially the big block Chevy Looks like a very nice car though.

Chris If we decinde to get a car for the boy it will be something we can build ourselves.
Posted By: BobR

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/06/09 06:08 AM

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Well while this is not the exact car it would be one of these. Let the bashing begin. I have been having so much fun trying to make the Cuda faster I just want more, and frankly my porky pig Barracuda is not gonna do it. I want a TS Grudge TYPE car...This car with my engine would run 7.50's easily IMO.

Dont get me wrong. There are some very nice 6.0 Mopars for sale I just think they are not priced accordingly. The above Vette is a McAmis car for $45 roller. What appeals to me is the weight The above car weighs 2055lb race ready. Most of these I have inquired about are there or less for the most part.

I am still actively looking for a 6.0 Mopar and frankly that Cuda last year would have been the car but IMO the price was top high. I can find a similarly set up Vette for $20+K less. While there are a few Mopars out there that are more reasonably priced those just dont appeal to me.



I just love this style Vette as a race car. One just like it (but green) won the A gas portion of last weekend's WCHRA race at Speed World.
Posted By: Jeepmon

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/06/09 07:18 AM

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Well part two of this equation is my son



Whats wrong with the Camaro for your son? Its a 10 second car on motor and who knows how much faster it can be with the spray.. Also, its a good looking car outside of the color and his friends would envy him.. Shoot, I envy him and I'm not even a friend..

Regardless of what you do or how you go about doing it.. Your car is gonna be fast.. dang fast.
Posted By: B1Fish540

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/06/09 07:30 AM

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Eric,The Daytona is nice. Especially the big block Chevy Looks like a very nice car though.

Chris If we decinde to get a car for the boy it will be something we can build ourselves.



A blown cuda would be sweet.
Posted By: Stroker Scamp

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/06/09 08:34 AM

here http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/1055547298.html
Posted By: ChrisJohnston669

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/06/09 08:42 AM

That is wayyy to much for that car...imo...
Posted By: MegaDart

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/06/09 09:51 AM

that daytona is nice but not currently certified and the 100" wheelbase could make for an exciting T/S ride

more pics of mine later guys, flying to louisville this morning!
Posted By: Quicktree

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/06/09 11:33 AM

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Well while this is not the exact car it would be one of these. Let the bashing begin. I have been having so much fun trying to make the Cuda faster I just want more, and frankly my porky pig Barracuda is not gonna do it. I want a TS Grudge TYPE car...This car with my engine would run 7.50's easily IMO.

Dont get me wrong. There are some very nice 6.0 Mopars for sale I just think they are not priced accordingly. The above Vette is a McAmis car for $45 roller. What appeals to me is the weight The above car weighs 2055lb race ready. Most of these I have inquired about are there or less for the most part.

I am still actively looking for a 6.0 Mopar and frankly that Cuda last year would have been the car but IMO the price was top high. I can find a similarly set up Vette for $20+K less. While there are a few Mopars out there that are more reasonably priced those just dont appeal to me.




I say go for it Al if you can't find what you want. life is to short to worried about a fiberglass body style.
Posted By: Billet426

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/06/09 01:07 PM

The way I read this is not looking for leads necessarily..but a feel for the "Market"
Quality always sells no matter what the stockmarket says.That said there is always exceptions.
Its always good for entertainment value to browse thought the adds here..the ones where you get a 5 gal bucket of rust, vin tag, "bill of sale only" for $8,000
These guys are the ones that are hurting the most, and rightfully so.
But Mopars always seem overpriced in comparison. Might be worth a call to some of the chassis builders to see if they have any ongoing projects that have hit a money wall
Posted By: STEFF

Re: Market for high end race cars - 03/06/09 05:26 PM

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That's BAD A$$, Al!!!!
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