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Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!???

Posted By: TheOtherDodge

Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/02/17 11:01 PM

I am thinking about doing that and putting up the truck for sale. So going from a high nine (prob mid 9 with the boost controller) to a high 10 car... Am I crazy?
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/02/17 11:32 PM

A lot of guys quit racing as they get older. Nothing crazy about that
Posted By: TheOtherDodge

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/02/17 11:40 PM

HEEEEEYYYY,you saying I am old?? lol...

But in reality, that is part of it. I also want to get into "more" of new technology.
Posted By: slantzilla

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/03/17 12:01 AM

I would wait a little longer. The Demon seems to be killing Hellcat prices, and I think they will come down more when the Demon hits the floor.

My dealer has a leftover '16 Cat on the floor. It's already dropped almost $13K, and still no buyers.
Posted By: Silver70

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/04/17 05:15 AM

I agree, I'd wait a little while or just order a demon and go 9s.
Posted By: MoparBilly

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/04/17 06:27 AM

I see quite a few really nice older Mopars up for sale, and I think buying modern muscle is the impetus for a great deal of it. I really want a 2nd gen SRT8 300, but I haven't been able to let go any of my older stuff yet.
Posted By: Stroker Scamp

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/04/17 08:06 AM

just saw a 2 Challengers smoke a rear end/drive line tonight and then a Hellcat do the same within a half hour at the test and tune here at Pacific Raceways, FWIW
Posted By: TheOtherDodge

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/04/17 03:39 PM

The Challenger isn't an option for me since I need 4 doors for the family. And I think the Charger looks better anyway.
Posted By: Bad340fish

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/04/17 03:43 PM

I'm with you on the charger, family or not I think that is the one I would buy if I had hellcat money.

I understand your thoughts on this, modern muscle is very very tempting. A friend of mine has been beating a hellcat like it owes him money since they first came out. He has done some road course events, and hundreds of passes on it and it hasn't given up a thing yet. He has modified it some now and it is trapping 140MPH but he can't get it to hook(10.10 best). My Barracuda is nice looking, drives nice, but all the old car rattle trap junk sure gets old lol.
Posted By: gtsdude

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/04/17 09:29 PM

I would be all over buying a hellcat, I agree the charger would be my choice as well, all the comforts of a modern vehicle, with a warranty. If I had one I known I would drive it more than my dart.
Posted By: camastomcat

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/04/17 10:43 PM

Originally Posted By TheOtherDodge
I am thinking about doing that and putting up the truck for sale. So going from a high nine (prob mid 9 with the boost controller) to a high 10 car... Am I crazy?


I wish I could afford your truck!
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/04/17 10:54 PM

I can't wait to hear the crying when the transmissions and rearends start breaking in these cars because trust me, it's gonna happen and it isn't going to be cheap. Lol
Posted By: slantzilla

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/05/17 12:22 AM

Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
I can't wait to hear the crying when the transmissions and rearends start breaking in these cars because trust me, it's gonna happen and it isn't going to be cheap. Lol


That's what warranty is for. You can get at least 100K mile warranty if you want.
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/05/17 01:58 AM

Originally Posted By slantzilla
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
I can't wait to hear the crying when the transmissions and rearends start breaking in these cars because trust me, it's gonna happen and it isn't going to be cheap. Lol


That's what warranty is for. You can get at least 100K mile warranty if you want.



So I'm reading the warranty book online (http://www.dodge.com/crossbrand/warranty/pdf/2015-Dodge-Generic_Warranty-1st.pdf) and page 14 section 3.4 says "3.4 Racing Not Covered. Your warranties don’t cover the costs of repairing damage or conditions caused by racing, nor do they cover the repair of any defects that are found as the result of participating in a racing event." There's 40 some odd pages of warranty information. Interesting reading.
Posted By: slantzilla

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/05/17 03:36 AM

A good dealership will get it fixed anyway. Dodge wants these cars out beating on the Camaros and Mustangs. You think they put a line loc and trans brake in the Demon just for fun?

How many Dana 60s and Hemi motors got replaced under warranty? Time marches on.
Posted By: Adobedude

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/05/17 02:22 PM

Dibbs on the Dakota. 😎
Posted By: an8sec70cuda

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/05/17 02:37 PM

I had somewhat similar thoughts, so I bought a '16 Grand Caravan yesterday. Family man status complete. Kept the cuda though, traded my Tahoe on it instead. laugh2 Still have the old Cummins Ram too.
Posted By: RapidusMaximus

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/05/17 07:20 PM

Originally Posted By camastomcat
Originally Posted By TheOtherDodge
I am thinking about doing that and putting up the truck for sale. So going from a high nine (prob mid 9 with the boost controller) to a high 10 car... Am I crazy?


I wish I could afford your truck!


So...yeah...same here, just what in need...now if I can just figure out what I want to sell so I can afford it... work grin Must...resist...
Posted By: TheOtherDodge

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/05/17 08:29 PM

Make an offer guys! Here are some more pics: https://www.flickr.com/gp/154381965@N05/c2Q3hc
Posted By: TheOtherDodge

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/06/17 03:13 PM

I haven't read about too many problems with the transmissions. It seems the driveshaft is the first thing to go.
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/06/17 04:49 PM

there were a ton of the newer Hemi powered cars at MaTS this year. It was about the only group I had time to watch and they were having a blast.
Posted By: WO23Coronet

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/06/17 06:35 PM

Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
I can't wait to hear the crying when the transmissions and rearends start breaking in these cars because trust me, it's gonna happen and it isn't going to be cheap. Lol


Surprise surprise, a 750+ hp car hooking with slicks breaks parts, nothing new.
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/06/17 07:18 PM

Originally Posted By WO23Coronet
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
I can't wait to hear the crying when the transmissions and rearends start breaking in these cars because trust me, it's gonna happen and it isn't going to be cheap. Lol


Surprise surprise, a 750+ hp car hooking with slicks breaks parts, nothing new.



Yes they do break but I can rebuild a 727 for under 275.00 and a powerglide for under 250.00 probably closer to 225.00 and in the last 35 years I broke one set of 9 inch gears and never a Dana rearend.
Posted By: Bad340fish

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/06/17 07:29 PM

With the way bad news spreads on the internet we should have heard about some failures if they were common at all. There is Hellcats with hundreds and hundreds of passes out there. You know if one broke or blew up it would be plastered everywhere by the ford and chevy crowd and the late model haters lol.
Posted By: FastmOp

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/06/17 07:48 PM

I have 125 passes in a log book with my Procharged SRT. It has 25,000 miles on it since I stuck the blower on it. I upped the boost to 10 pounds about 5,000 miles ago lol
still running great.

It's hard on tires πŸ˜›

My kids love being picked up from school in it. It runs 7.60 at 95 MPH in the 1/8 and gets 20 MPG with the AC on. I'm going to sell it only because I'm looking at Pro Mods 😎
Posted By: slantzilla

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/06/17 09:41 PM

When I had my 6 speed SRT I was warned the driveshaft would go IF I hooked it up real good.

My Shaker is a lowly 5.7 auto. Dealer told me the if I break it at the strip they will send a rollback to get it and fix it under warranty. They bet me I can't break it.
Posted By: Bad340fish

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/06/17 11:59 PM

There is a local guy here with a 6 speed RT with slicks on it, he has put parts on the ground a few times lol. I think the dealer fixed it once, not sure about the other times. I think it also has nitrous.
Posted By: TheOtherDodge

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/07/17 03:49 PM

Here is my plan with the Hellcat:

Drop my 17 month old off at daycare
Drop my wife off at work
Use navigation to find our new 1/4 mile track about 50 miles away
Run AC to keep Houston humidity out of the car
Turn on the ventilated seat
Put on some old school RUSH to jam to with the Harmon Kardon system
Run some 10'8s at the track
Go pick up baby and wife
Stop at Taco Cabana and get some drive through
Go home
Posted By: slantzilla

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/07/17 04:01 PM

Sounds good except for the Rush. puke

boogie drive
Posted By: 1mean340

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/07/17 06:06 PM

You really can't beat these late model cars power wise. People with bolt ons, tunes and a little more boost are making 800HP with Hellcats in daily drivable cars that don't shake the neighborhood with cam lope while idling, don't need constant maintenance aside from oil changes and knock out almost 20mpg in 4400 pound cars.

I don't think anyone will say a hellcat is the CHEAPEST way to build a 9 or 10 second drag car, but it has to be one of the easiest. To build just about any other mopar into a 9 second car, you literally have to build the whole car. To build a 9 second Hellcat, it seems like you just do a few bolt ons and replace the driveshaft and axles. On top of that, the car can do so much more than what 99% of the old school cars here running 9's can do. Handling, long road trips, sit in hot traffic, keep you comfortable.

Me personally, as great of an all around car as the hellcat is...it's just not hot rod enough for me. It's just another new challenger which are the new mustangs as far as 'me too cars' go. From a hot rod/drag racer perspective, I see a lot more potential and a far greater cool-factor taking a hellcat engine and planting in it in a nice old body with a Dana 60, 727 and a 4 link rear.
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/07/17 06:29 PM

Originally Posted By 1mean340
You really can't beat these late model cars power wise. People with bolt ons, tunes and a little more boost are making 800HP with Hellcats in daily drivable cars that don't shake the neighborhood with cam lope while idling, don't need constant maintenance aside from oil changes and knock out almost 20mpg in 4400 pound cars.

I don't think anyone will say a hellcat is the CHEAPEST way to build a 9 or 10 second drag car, but it has to be one of the easiest. To build just about any other mopar into a 9 second car, you literally have to build the whole car. To build a 9 second Hellcat, it seems like you just do a few bolt ons and replace the driveshaft and axles. On top of that, the car can do so much more than what 99% of the old school cars here running 9's can do. Handling, long road trips, sit in hot traffic, keep you comfortable.

Me personally, as great of an all around car as the hellcat is...it's just not hot rod enough for me. It's just another new challenger which are the new mustangs as far as 'me too cars' go. From a hot rod/drag racer perspective, I see a lot more potential and a far greater cool-factor taking a hellcat engine and planting in it in a nice old body with a Dana 60, 727 and a 4 link rear.




Some guys enjoy building and doing the work to build a 9 second car, some are cheap and do it on a budget, some are to lazy and would rather pay someone to do it for them, and some do it so they can go to car shows and brag about running 9's but never do so. Whatever floats your boat. LOL
Posted By: bonefish

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/07/17 06:49 PM

i see ALOT of 9 sec. street/show cars that have never been to the track work
Posted By: WO23Coronet

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/07/17 06:54 PM

Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Originally Posted By WO23Coronet
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
I can't wait to hear the crying when the transmissions and rearends start breaking in these cars because trust me, it's gonna happen and it isn't going to be cheap. Lol


Surprise surprise, a 750+ hp car hooking with slicks breaks parts, nothing new.



Yes they do break but I can rebuild a 727 for under 275.00 and a powerglide for under 250.00 probably closer to 225.00 and in the last 35 years I broke one set of 9 inch gears and never a Dana rearend.


EASY now, you can build a 750+ hp/4000lb capable 727 for $275? Lets not get carried away
Posted By: TheOtherDodge

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/07/17 07:47 PM

Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Originally Posted By 1mean340
You really can't beat these late model cars power wise. People with bolt ons, tunes and a little more boost are making 800HP with Hellcats in daily drivable cars that don't shake the neighborhood with cam lope while idling, don't need constant maintenance aside from oil changes and knock out almost 20mpg in 4400 pound cars.

I don't think anyone will say a hellcat is the CHEAPEST way to build a 9 or 10 second drag car, but it has to be one of the easiest. To build just about any other mopar into a 9 second car, you literally have to build the whole car. To build a 9 second Hellcat, it seems like you just do a few bolt ons and replace the driveshaft and axles. On top of that, the car can do so much more than what 99% of the old school cars here running 9's can do. Handling, long road trips, sit in hot traffic, keep you comfortable.

Me personally, as great of an all around car as the hellcat is...it's just not hot rod enough for me. It's just another new challenger which are the new mustangs as far as 'me too cars' go. From a hot rod/drag racer perspective, I see a lot more potential and a far greater cool-factor taking a hellcat engine and planting in it in a nice old body with a Dana 60, 727 and a 4 link rear.




Some guys enjoy building and doing the work to build a 9 second car, some are cheap and do it on a budget, some are to lazy and would rather pay someone to do it for them, and some do it so they can go to car shows and brag about running 9's but never do so. Whatever floats your boat. LOL


All you have done on this post is insult people. I have built a few nine second STREET cars including one that ran 9.2's. And both were able to be enjoyed driving every day on the street and not just at the track after being trailered there. Just because we can now afford something that will provide great performance along with a lot of other luxuries doesn't make someone one lazy.
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/07/17 08:14 PM

Originally Posted By WO23Coronet
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Originally Posted By WO23Coronet
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
I can't wait to hear the crying when the transmissions and rearends start breaking in these cars because trust me, it's gonna happen and it isn't going to be cheap. Lol


Surprise surprise, a 750+ hp car hooking with slicks breaks parts, nothing new.



Yes they do break but I can rebuild a 727 for under 275.00 and a powerglide for under 250.00 probably closer to 225.00 and in the last 35 years I broke one set of 9 inch gears and never a Dana rearend.


EASY now, you can build a 750+ hp/4000lb capable 727 for $275? Lets not get carried away



I would never race a 4000 pound race car. Lol
Posted By: WO23Coronet

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/07/17 08:45 PM



Surprise surprise, a 750+ hp car hooking with slicks breaks parts, nothing new. [/quote]


Yes they do break but I can rebuild a 727 for under 275.00 and a powerglide for under 250.00 probably closer to 225.00 and in the last 35 years I broke one set of 9 inch gears and never a Dana rearend. [/quote]

EASY now, you can build a 750+ hp/4000lb capable 727 for $275? Lets not get carried away [/quote]


I would never race a 4000 pound race car. Lol [/quote]

Plenty of guys do, doesn't change the fact that you're making silly claims. Everyone gets you don't like late model stuff, whatever, no one cares, doesn't mean you have to start making ridiculous claims to justify your argument, smacks of desperation
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/07/17 09:08 PM

No desperation here. I'm the cheap guy I was talking about. My bracket racing is strictly budget. Even my heads up combo is built with budget in mine and lack specialty items.
Posted By: WO23Coronet

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/07/17 09:39 PM

Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
No desperation here. I'm the cheap guy I was talking about. My bracket racing is strictly budget. Even my heads up combo is built with budget in mine and lack specialty items.


Awesome πŸ‘, but don't make ridiculous claims about what you do to make what others decide to do look like a bad idea
Posted By: TheOtherDodge

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/08/17 01:09 AM

I am not looking to bracket race or drive a rattly, rough riding, loud trailer car any more. That is why I went to the turbo Dakota. But now, technology has passed that..and hence the Hellcat. 10 years from now, there will be something else.
Posted By: TheOtherDodge

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/08/17 01:09 AM

BTW, the AMG is sold and I believe the Dakota is sold..so on the way....
Posted By: slantzilla

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/08/17 02:35 AM

Originally Posted By TheOtherDodge
BTW, the AMG is sold and I believe the Dakota is sold..so on the way....


Congratulations!
Posted By: TheOtherDodge

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/15/17 09:30 PM

Dakota, has been sold locally to someone in Texas. I will miss that truck as it was fun to drive, but will enjoy the Hellcat too. I will let him disclose if he chooses, as he is a member of this site.

I have been on the site for about 15 years and will continue to lurk to see if the new owner posts.

Thanks everyone!
Posted By: FastmOp

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/15/17 11:21 PM

We want to know your opinion of the Cat
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/15/17 11:40 PM

Me too...Been thinking a lot about the Hellcat stuff. Sure looks fun and with the new Demon coming out hoping Hellcat prices fall a bit. Best of luck with the new toy!!
Posted By: slantzilla

Re: Selling turbo Dakota for a Hellcat Charger!!!??? - 05/16/17 01:41 AM

Yes please! Let us know how you like it.
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