This is pretty telling of where Chrysler's heading.

The dealer I work for just got the new Mopar performance catalog. I'm not impressed.

I wish we had more speed parts for the SRTs.
Drag PAC cars are not what the average SRT guy races.

I'm surprised they even put out any catalog
anymore... they have all 4 parts now days...
2 decals and a chrome dipstick... it might be
3 decals to make up the 4 parts...its disgusting

All the stuff was rebranded stff anyway with 30% added to the cost !!! Really, what did Chrysler ever make besides the super stock springs ?!?!?!

It was a long time ago when they made the SS springs
they job out everything... I use to see who made what
when I was working at CTC and I seen the price the
company paid and what it sold for... glad I got 25% off
of it

Its no wonder so many are going to the dark side.

Turn out the lights, they party is over ( for old grey beard guys)
Now grey beard guys with some $Loot$ can get a fast new car from Mopar
I used to buy solid Dusters here in North Carolina for a few hundo and take them to the yankee shows and sell them for $2k--thought I was a smart trader
Paid a lot of bills that way Now if I had just one of those Dusters left I would.........no wait! I would not because all that stuff got famous and is waaay too high $$ Took all the fun out of it!

My next build is gonna be a gen 3... maybe 2
of them.. I want to pull the 440 out of my 38
ply and put in a gen 3 with a 518 with a lock
up conv.. it will be the wifes ride.. might even
get a turbo on it... all my LA stuff is getting
tired.. and basically running out of blocks.. if
I break my 416 a gen 3 is going in

People need to get with the times and move away from .509 cams and 906 heads.
What should that catalog be filled with? Overpriced stuff for a 58 year old engine design, that you can buy cheaper anywhere else? Parts for an engine they haven't made since '78?
Orange ignition boxes?
With the aftermarket there is no need for that catalog to be filled with out dated stuff.
How many new challengers chargers darts 300s etc show up to major Mopar shows?
That's what the company is building now, that's what they should market parts for.
If you want something for your musclecar, summit and jegs are a click away, and cheaper than that catalog.

Other then a pilot bearing and distributer bushing, I can't remember the last thing I bought from Mopar?

Well that catalog could be filled with all the stuff I make for example. All Mopar Performance had to do was hire someone like me and they would have a catalog full of performance parts. I crank out a new design every month on average and I only spend a little bit of my time on R&D. There are literally hundreds of parts that Mopar Performance could be making money on if they had anyone working there who knew how to design new parts.

They used to sell a great set of flexplate bolts. Been years since I've even seen a catalog.

I dont even see them selling blocks or heads for those...
they are getting out of the performance game.. PERIOD
you can see that in all the racing

I would use the word "slighted".
I'm with AndyF.
I wonder if this a just a "cave in" on the EPA new performance parts interpretation ?

http://www.mopar.com/catalog/

Honestly, is anyone surprised?

Thats nice.. like the years previous.. how many
of those parts are there to be bought

Fiat has been shopping around to sell out Chrysler to any takers. I think GM and Ford already turned them down.

You need to know how to shop. Parts that aren't in the catalogue are sometimes seriously discounted when they finally want to get rid of them. When one of my co workers was rebuilding his 5.9 Magnum engine, we found Gen II Viper rod/piston assemblies with rings and bearings for $32.00 each. Same rod as Magnum, flat top, no eyebrow pistons, which made it slightly higher compression than Magnum piston. Works fine. Still running today. I bought a set of MP 4.500 bore by 4.500 stroke forged pistons for $225. Last set available.

Any corporation the size of Mopar would consider the market for your stuff to be too small Andy. It's great for you and shops like Mancini's but the reality is it would cost Chrysler more to administer than they could ever hope to make.

I think the catalog is more of a "guide" as to what to use or what you can do - performance or appearance-wise. But if you're foolish enough to buy from Chrysler then you deserve to pay 30% more than retail.

You need look no further than Mancini's. Virtually every "Mopar" performance part has a Mancini equivalent at significantly less money.

I bought a set of. .810 bars from MP a couple weeks ago, supposedly the last pair in the system. Got a quote on them on Wednesday, called to get them the following Monday and MP had raised the price $100. Lucky for me my dealer honored his quoted price.

Bought the MP oil pump primer today. Cost all of $8. 😀

The Ma Mopar/Chrysler Corp we all fondly reminisce about doesn't exist anymore and hasn't for a long time. Face it, we're no different than the Studebaker and Hudson guys.

I ran a NEW set of viper rods and balanced them
and shot peened.. one broke in half.. just a
glorified stock rod.. I wont use anything but a
H beam

You got it... Ma Mopar doesnt exist anymore..
its Fiat and they dont care about the OLD stuff..
I seen it going down hill when I was still working
at CTC.. the race group was dieing rapidally

I work at the Dealership..Fiat screw up every thing they touch..

Jamie... are they selling Fiats at your dealership..
if so they did just what they wanted..they got a bunch
of dealerships for cheap.. and they are still making
money on the Rams and Jeeps

We are the new AMC and Pontiac guys. FIAT is only fleecing the USA for all it can while it can like EVERY top heavy greedy corporation.

Well that depends on what you call a Fiat LOL Dart - new jeep - 200 They are all fiat's with a dodge emblem on them..Junk !

Of which you can still get decent blocks for.

I know, didn't want anyone cutting their wrist, so I left that out lol.

Fiat really did a business move by ditching the grassroots Guy altogether and just wrapped up the entire MP catalog up in one purchase, the Hellcat or the ACR.

I left the Mopar dealer in 2011 and even before I left I could get SS springs cheaper from Mancini then at my dealer with my discounted price. I hardly ever bought anything from my dealer because Mancini or my local speed shop was cheaper. It seems most of the parts we buy for 440's and 340's today are aftermarket most of the time. Heck my mild 440/493 is a 440Source bottom end and Indy EZ heads and Indy dual plane intake with a Holley 850 Carb. Not many of us even low buck guys run the older Mopar iron heads today. Most Mopar muscle cars today roaming the streets and tracks dont use many factory parts other then the block. I guess its only the ones who restore cars to original like the numbers matching guys who use alot of the factory Mopar parts anymore. The fact is the after market makes most of the parts for our cars today that are of better quality since they have 50 years of technology upgrades they build in the aftermarket parts today. I mean how many of you know anyone with a Mopar hotrod that still runs the older factory iron heads ?? Probably not many. Ron

SO TRUE LOL

Many years ago a local now closed speed shop used to sponsor me and I had him order me some Dirrect Connection brush on intake gasket sealer from Ed Hamburger. The owner a Ford guy placed the order and when it came in he looked at it and peeled the label off and it was made by Ford Motor Company. He walked back to a shelf in the shop and showed me 6 cans of it he had sitting on a shelf. He still laughs about that.

This all started long before fiat bought what was chrysler.

Yes it did... when Damn near Chrysler took over
they sent all of the R&D work over to Germany
and that was my job till then.. all I did after
that was fix screw ups.. thats when my job went
down hill... even before that the performance
side was lacking..except for the Nascar group
and look for that went..being we have no parts
for mopar anymore.. it just doesnt bother me
that people turn to the dark side

That blows.

(Investor's hindsight...i should have bought Mega blocks instead of property)

Naaa... that dirt will be worth more in the long run..
I am trying to buy another 40 acres that buts up to my
75 acres but the county(the owners of it) are out of their
minds on the price.. they havent had any offers yet and
its been 4 years since they put it on the market.. I put
in a price and they didnt counter offer or anything

Amen. Well said.