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Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer.

Posted By: Leigh

Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/21/15 12:31 AM

I was over at the trailer today, and was shocked to see the frost on EVERYTHING! The trailer is insulated. I understand the moisture/temp drop issue. If I tighten up the air leaks, (generator door), won't that just trap more moisture? I have a solar panel. I was thinking of a 12 volt bulb or piezo fan. Any ideas?
Posted By: Stanton

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/21/15 12:47 AM

My guess is you closed it up when it was warmer and more humid out so the trapped moisture has frosted up on the cold surfaces.

You should had left the trailer cracked open till the temperature/humidity dropped, then sealed it up there would have been "less" frost but likely still some.

Insulation is just that, its not a heater! In MN I doubt anything short of an actual heater will do any good with the winters you get. A 12v bulb ain't gonna do squat !!
Posted By: Leigh

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/21/15 12:52 AM

Yes, you're right on all three accounts. At least I fogged the heck out of it. Next year, I'll add a max air vent cover, and leave the inside cover cracked. That would allow some cross flow from the generator door vent.
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/21/15 01:32 AM

Since you say you have a solar panel I'm guessing its hooked up to a 12 volt battery. I would try a 12 volt oscillating fan to keep the air moving some. worth the try and I'm glad you fogged the engine.
Posted By: caper

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/21/15 01:40 AM

A bail of hay spread out on the floor
Posted By: Blusmbl

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/21/15 01:42 AM

I don't know if people typically use them on trailers but sailboat people seem to use solar powered fans like these:

http://www.defender.com/category.jsp?path=-1|6880|2290139&id=2290144
Posted By: Stanton

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/21/15 02:46 AM

Quote:
A bail of hay spread out on the floor


He wants to keep his car dry, not build a manger !!
Posted By: ahy

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/21/15 02:50 AM

If you have a dry day or two or three I'd crack the door now. Colder the better. That will help get the moisture out even when frozen.
Posted By: astjp2

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/21/15 03:03 AM

Just put in a 1500w heater...
Posted By: HotRodDave

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/21/15 03:13 AM

Seal it up and put a dessacant in there, a 5 gallon bucket of salt in the corner (not dumped every where) a very dry hay bail can absorb moisture.

You could heat it till it thaws and dries with an electric heater then open the doors and blow out the moist warm air and let it fill with cold dry air and seal it back up. Don't use a propane heater as a by-product of combustion is water.
Posted By: Dragula

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/21/15 03:48 AM

Really? I actually have trouble finding mine in all the "frost"....




Oooh, there it is....
Posted By: bonefish

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/21/15 04:23 AM

Originally Posted By Dragula
Really? I actually have trouble finding mine in all the "frost"....




Oooh, there it is....
I was gunna aSK WHAT FROST WAS BUT THE I SAW YOUR PIC,S. smoke
Posted By: Dabee

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/21/15 04:29 AM

When I lived in Michigan I never had that problem. I always left my roof vents opened a couple inches. Let's the air circulate.
Posted By: Stanton

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/21/15 04:42 AM

The added bonus of running a heater is in the spring when you open the trailer to the warm, moist outside air, the car won't be so cold as to have condensation form on it ... y'know, like a cold beer on a warm day !!!
Posted By: topside

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/21/15 04:44 AM

What about a dehumidifier? Or one of those portable electric heater/units? Obviously not on the floor where fuel/oil fumes could ignite. Maybe plug it in every few days. Humidity will attack everything - tools, etc - in the trailer.
Posted By: Leigh

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/21/15 05:31 AM

No power available where it's at. I'm going with opening up the roof vent. That trainer snow picture looks like May in Minnesota. 😄
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/21/15 05:49 AM

put it inside! DUH!!! smile
Posted By: Leigh

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/21/15 06:00 AM

20'X20'. No extra room. It's good that I don't smoke, there isn't room for a pack. 😳
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/22/15 04:54 AM

Open the vent, mom used to dry clothes when it was below zero, freeze dried. Always heard it's a " dry cold" up there. Cold should suck the moisture out. What is the humidity outside right now?
Posted By: W.I.N. Racing

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/23/15 05:54 AM

Originally Posted By Dabee
I always left my roof vents opened a couple inches. Let's the air circulate.

iagree
Posted By: SCATPACK 1

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/23/15 07:59 PM

Originally Posted By Stanton
Quote:
A bail of hay spread out on the floor


He wants to keep his car dry, not build a manger !!


Now that's funny. I laughed out loud and got caught at work on Moparts. No laughing allowed on this job.
MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone
Posted By: caper

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/23/15 11:08 PM

If you didn't try it, don't knock it.

The hay absorbs the humidity no frost build up on car.
Posted By: Stanton

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/24/15 12:15 AM

Quote:
If you didn't try it, don't knock it.

The hay absorbs the humidity no frost build up on car.


Has no sense of humor !!!
Posted By: moparclown

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/24/15 01:07 AM

Run a cord out and put a lightbulb on a small sheet of aluminum under the car.
Posted By: Leigh

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/24/15 09:05 AM

Thanks for the ideas. Since it's cold storage, with no power source, I'm going to crack the vent. It's on an acreage lot, with critters, so I hesitate to add bedding material, but I have to say, our central Canadian members winters make Minnesota winters look like trainer material. If I lived there, and could saunter out there a few times a week, I'd try the straw, salt and have some 110v bulbs going. Truth be known, it's probably always been there, I just wasn't able to access the trailer to look.
Posted By: Stanton

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/24/15 05:21 PM

Quote:
our central Canadian members winters make Minnesota winters look like trainer material.


You got that right, its only 11 degrees here today.

Oh, that's Celsius ... in Fahrenheit its 52 !!! smile
Posted By: Keith Richards

Re: Controlling frost forming on race car in enclosed trailer. - 12/24/15 07:12 PM

I usually put 3-4 of these out and refill them with the big economical refill bag as needed, I usually keep the car in the garage but when out there I noticed it does keep the condensation off the car which it did get in the past especially on the aluminum parts. BTW, I know you don't have power but when I put a drop light down by the motor to keep from freezing when going racing the next day I see my thermometer in the trailer up 8-10*.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/DampRid-10-5-oz-Fresh-Scent-Refillable-Moisture-Absorber-FG01FS/203908838

BTW, if you do use Danp Rid keep it sealed up tight, my 24' Pace has no roof vents and I like it that way.

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