Progress pics - 440" W2 stroker Smallblock 66 Val Wagon

Stephen Daurity is doing an awesome job on the Wagon...should be ready for the Motor and Trans shortly

Motor

Rear (8.8" Ferd 3.73 Auburn Posi out of Explorer Narrowed 3")

18" Continentals 245F/285R

What a beast! Did you go with 18x9F and 18x10R? You will need 295 drag radials minimum to get a hint of traction lol!

They're OEM GT500 mustang offsets and widths, I think the fronts are 8" and the back is like 9.5"...ish.

I remember texting the offsets with a tape measure when I bought them, he Said, get 'em, We'll make em' fit , LOL

I'm hoping the Wagon azz end will help with the hook

Very cool!

Very very nice but what the heck are you doing letting a Ford guy around that Mopar engine. Lol. Can't wait to see the finished product

Looks good Bobby!

LOL John I didnt do the engine. Hollis at HP engines did it. I did talk him into the 8.8 though LOL. I'm still a Mopar guy at heart, just not for a race car right now.

All I can add is, dang, you got some nice projects.

Thanks Buddy, I'm actually thinking about selling the Rocky now since this will be much more practical, I hardly ever get to go to the track anymore

Haha

The trick will be finding somebody that thinks Rocky is practical...... Good luck with that..... Lol

Actually, if i were to detune it it would be a fun driver, its already got a full exhaust on it....hmmm. Its as practical as any cj jeep out there just a wee bit quicker. I could probably just pull the drive shaft and tow bar it to the track with the Val.

The wagon is looking sweet and should be a blast to drive. What kind of power is the engine supposed to make?

VERY nice.........................

Tony, The motor should make right around 560/560 with absolutely wall to wall torque....and this guestimate should be fairly accurate based on a very similar 442" (401AMC based) stroker combination that made 545/545 on the dyno with very similar (slightly less) head flow and cam. It pretty much follows my 'default' Streetwize SB stroker recipie, but the W2's are an added bonus, plus Stephen's gonna fab up a nice set of 1 7/8" headers to fit the chassis. I'm stoked how cool this thing's gonna be for real street driving. So light with so much power. BTW that Jeep CJ-7 runs easy low 12's....at around 3800 pounds w/d. There's vids of it on youtube (type in wizerulz).

So....at around 3100 pounds curb weight with a 3800 stall 9 1/2" UCC converter and 3.73 gears it ought to move pretty seriously quick but be extremely docile for street driving.

Tony your cars were really the inspiration for this one

Can ya give out the 440" combo???

Sure,Mike

71' 360 based, 10:0 6.200" rods, 4.06" x 4.25" BPE crank. Icon 1.26" CH SBC D dish piston piston with new eyebrows
W2 heads with 2.08/1.60 most of the work in the bowls and port transition. Holley Single plane W2 intake, Bullet (ultradyne grind) .605"/.605" 251/259 @.050 Solid roller on 109 in at 105(mild .4033 street lobes), BAM/MRL pro roller lifters. Probably run a 750 quickfuel carb but thinking about MSD Atomic (if the budget allows...got a kid going in to college next month!)

The only "high tech" thing is I applied thermal barrier ceramics to the chambers/valve faces and exhaust ports.

Simple and reliable

heads

How much grinding to get the roller lifter in?

The MRLs dropped in, believe it or not, John! Btw we did use the offset intake cup lifter and fwiw we used the Hughes Big block Victor Intake rockers to really straighten out the pushrod which is always a kind of sticking point on a lot of w2 builds...took some research to get there but its s nice solution,

Heads

. Nice and thanks for the info. I should have my R3 engine done this week and if I'm not happy with how it runs with the solid lifter cam I may look into those over the winter. This block is a 59 degree with the added head bolts so I have some grinding to do

Nice to see SOMEBODY's project making some progress...

Approximate ride height

Did HP cut the pistons? Care to share the cost? I'm working on a GM rod based 340 with an odd stroke.

Yeah Hollis fly cut the intake eyebrows in-house, the Piston was an ICON that had the right CH and Dish for the CR we wanted.

I think he's even got a vid of the fly-cutting on his Facebook page HPEngines.

Don't remember the cost but Hollis is always very Reasonable and a great machinist and guy to deal with, and to me a very good friend especially.

Funny how that works. Actually, it was your engine builds that inspired my combos... Your wagon is going to fly! That is some awesome power to weight right there.

It'll be a fun grocery getter, I can't wait to take it tailgating.

I love the Charger but original coke bottle R/T's and other authentic Musclecars are kind of a gilded cage when you take them out anymore, It's sad but you can't hardly enjoy going out to eat anymore, without being paranoid about what's going on around it in the parking lot.

Something like this, meh!

Motor In, custom SS W2 Headers by SD Fabrications (my Buddy Stephen Daurity) coming soon

Another shot

Very nice!

Very clean, VERY nice!!!

There are plenty of times that I wish I would
have built a normal type of a car unlike the one
I built... its just so much easier to build a
normal car

UThanks for the kind words.

The car is a 15 footer which is what i need to be able to just drive and enjoy it without eorrying about dings and scratches. Its gonna be fun for sure

Should I go Carb or EFI?

I like the idea of the atomic EFI (see my buddy Nat's 442" AMC Back to back dyno test against a 1000HP Pro-systems carb - the AMC is essentially my same recipie we used for this 440" SBM) but I'm on the fence about it.

Quick update pic.

Can't believe the talent of Stephen Daurity and the awesome work he's done on my toys. He's amazing.

Fi tech Efi going on the 440" W2 small block

Lookin good!

Your being way too nice. I been slacking, I have been loafing as my dad would say. I'm ready to get back going on it. Its gonna be the definition of a sleeper.

LOL,

Stephen, I said you did awesome work, and you do....I didn't say you did a lot of it at any one time, lol!!

Jeez, I just get my stroker together and a few of you have me wanting that FI Tech fuel injection!

LOL. That just made my morning.

I debated a long time but when I did the cost comparison of the FI tech vs buying a new HP type 4150 and a decent pump the cost premium really wasn't all that much.

I have to be honest, having a well-tuned EFI would encourage me to drive the car(s) more often. This one is a driver and I'm thinking of putting one (assuming this goes well-which it should) on my 427" SBF Cobra and even the 517" Stroker in the Charger.

Nice, Bobby. I'm partial to early As since my first car was a '65 Valiant sedan.

The wife said she wanted a new SUV

In all seriousness, Stephen Daurity is THE MAN, and they're GREAT PEOPLE to deal with. He made fitting these tires fit in the wheelwells of a near 50 yr old A body look easy. I got to say the 8.8 Explorer narrowing trick is super slick.

My very favorite part of being part of the MoPar Family is getting to meet and making friends with so many great people like the Dauritys.

BTW, I hunted and hunted for my old 340 Rear springs, I had a PERFECT SET of them for years but I reckon they got thrown out :-(

Anybody knows of a decent set let me know, thanks!

I have some 340 Formula S springs I don't use anymore. They have some use on them though, I would part with them cheap.

PM sent, thanks!

I'd love to do the firm feel springs but don't really feel like tapping the 401K to do it :-(

I've been thinking about XHDs but wondering if maybe the 863/864 2800 lb Super Stock springs might be better for the power I'm cranking?

Went with the XHD's, Mancini was running a sale....$210 a set with the Moparts discount. One more thing to check off the "Needs" list.

Rear end shots with the new springs, might lower the front spring eye but we'll see once it all settles out....or we hide a couple nitrous bottles, lol

Flamin' awesome build! Kudos for having the vision and sticking to it.

I like a car with a little rake.

That yellowish paint is so sick, both in a bad way and a good way. I cannot decide whether I love it or hate it.

One thing for sure, it's a very cool ride and will be fun to drive. I bet you'll get compliments every time you hit the street. And, that bigblock in smallblock clothing under the hood will be a hoot.

R.

Thanks, Buddy!

Actually, I think the color is pretty cool and somehow seems to suit just what the car is. I want to tailgate with it and just have fun! And I know it's going to run, drive, handle and STOP light years better than most people would ever expect it to,

Just ordered some F/R Hellwig swaybars for it and and with good shocks and the serious rubber at all 4 corners it should handle quite well for what it is. The 8.8 out of the explorer has 3.5" tubes so it will help balance the F/R distribution even more.

Stephen Daurity is awesome, so happy to have him working on it. I'm in no rush so he works on it when he on between his 'bread and butter' jobs...and it's really cool how much in synch we are with how it's been morphing and progressing.

So it's all going to plan and I think it will be so quirky-cool and 'one-off' that it has a lot lot of appeal from all kinds of people (I recently discovered there are a lot of Enthusiastic Wagon fans, a cool sub-culture I now have a membership in.

I hope people will really get a kick out of it and enjoy it too.

Wagon looking good, Bobby!

Thanks Hollis

I still can't believe the 285 width Tires fit in the wheel wells with only the 3/4" offset springs. Well that and the 3" narrowed 8.8 Explorer rear. It's cool, the pumpkin is offset from the factory 3" so you only need to cut the tube on one side to center it and then you just use another of the shorter side axles, how slick is that?

Now my question is....how in the heck do you you get any decent size exhaust under one of these early A bodies!!