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Indy 360-1?

Posted By: justinp61

Indy 360-1? - 04/15/15 03:09 AM

Has anyone cc'd their Indy hand (by Indy) ported 360-1 heads? Indy told me the intake runners would be 230cc's. I checked mine and they are only 210cc's.
Posted By: mopar dave

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/15/15 03:47 AM

Mine where 210 before
I had them ported.
Posted By: greendart408

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/15/15 05:46 AM

Keep some earplugs handy also if you go to put those on a flowbench, thank me later lol!
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/15/15 06:05 AM

Originally Posted By greendart408
Keep some earplugs handy also if you go to put those on a flowbench, thank me later lol!
. That don't sound good
Posted By: justinp61

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/15/15 04:16 PM

Looks like I'll be sending them out to be ported. Now to figure out who to use. work
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/15/15 04:37 PM

Originally Posted By justinp61
Looks like I'll be sending them out to be ported. Now to figure out who to use. work


Check With Modern Cyl Head for a CNC job
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Posted By: viperblue72

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/15/15 06:28 PM

Indy does a polish job and calls it porting. Been there. Never again.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/15/15 07:28 PM

Todd Marsh now has Larry Smith working doing all his port work--Larry has done Daytona 500 winner 3 times--lets just say he is one of the best--call Todd 336 283 0800 and get a killer deal on the best work around--larry has been working all of the Indy castings for years now and really gets amazing HP out of them--notice I said HP not numbers--best deal going if you want max HP out of them
Posted By: D-50

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/15/15 11:31 PM

Send them to Brett Miller he did my 360-2 heads , they flow 337 @.650. Made 662 hp at 7300 pump gas, 394 ci.
Posted By: slammedR/T

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/15/15 11:56 PM

Originally Posted By D-50
Send them to Brett Miller he did my 360-2 heads , they flow 337 @.650. Made 662 hp at 7300 pump gas, 394 ci.


Is that wheel hp or flywheel hp? either way that is very impressive thumbs
Posted By: D-50

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/16/15 12:18 AM

Flywheel hp, it is a engine masters motor that Brett Miller and Vic Bloomer done.
Posted By: slammedR/T

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/16/15 12:20 AM

Originally Posted By D-50
Flywheel hp, it is a engine masters motor that Brett Miller and Vic Bloomer done.

Very Impressive and Bret Miller is very good also.
Posted By: D-50

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/16/15 12:23 AM

Originally Posted By slammedR/T
Originally Posted By D-50
Flywheel hp, it is a engine masters motor that Brett Miller and Vic Bloomer done.

Very Impressive and Bret Miller is very good also.


I am only shifting at 6800 now maybe I should raise my shift point.
Posted By: slammedR/T

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/16/15 12:55 AM

Originally Posted By D-50
Originally Posted By slammedR/T
Originally Posted By D-50
Flywheel hp, it is a engine masters motor that Brett Miller and Vic Bloomer done.

Very Impressive and Bret Miller is very good also.


I am only shifting at 6800 now maybe I should raise my shift point.


I would try 7,000 or 7,200 and see if you pick up any, i was shifting mine at 7,500 i started shifting at 8K rpm and dropped two tenths and gained 2 mph.
Posted By: W5DART66

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/16/15 01:32 AM

I don't know if I would go much more valve action is FAST.
Posted By: mshred

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/16/15 03:34 AM

Originally Posted By slammedR/T
Originally Posted By D-50
Originally Posted By slammedR/T
Originally Posted By D-50
Flywheel hp, it is a engine masters motor that Brett Miller and Vic Bloomer done.

Very Impressive and Bret Miller is very good also.


I am only shifting at 6800 now maybe I should raise my shift point.


I would try 7,000 or 7,200 and see if you pick up any, i was shifting mine at 7,500 i started shifting at 8K rpm and dropped two tenths and gained 2 mph.


Is the motor in your dakota a stock block? If it is, your breaking all the "rules" LOL...I shift mine at 7200 on the hose, been told im breaking all the rules too with the 4" arm lol
Posted By: slammedR/T

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/16/15 03:48 AM

Originally Posted By mshred


Is the motor in your dakota a stock block? If it is, your breaking all the "rules" LOL...I shift mine at 7200 on the hose, been told im breaking all the rules too with the 4" arm lol


Yes sir stock block MAGNUM MOTA YO! thumbs Ryan J told me years ago I will split this block, then when I put a set of raised port 360-1 cnc heads he did on it he said I should have split it years ago and will now, still going drive
Posted By: mshred

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/16/15 12:28 PM

Originally Posted By slammedR/T
Originally Posted By mshred


Is the motor in your dakota a stock block? If it is, your breaking all the "rules" LOL...I shift mine at 7200 on the hose, been told im breaking all the rules too with the 4" arm lol


Yes sir stock block MAGNUM MOTA YO! thumbs Ryan J told me years ago I will split this block, then when I put a set of raised port 360-1 cnc heads he did on it he said I should have split it years ago and will now, still going drive


Cool! I have still yet to actually see someone post on any of the forums of their SB stock blocks breaking...I am sure it has happened, but it seems a lot less common then with the BB stuff.
Posted By: Streetwize

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/16/15 01:29 PM

I know there are a number of Excellent porters on this site with tremendous reputations, full respect to all of them.

But for me, after meeting Larry Smith and talking to him and then seeing his work first hand over at Hollis's shop www.hpengines.net, I know where I would go to get my heads ported from here on out.

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Posted By: justinp61

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/16/15 01:42 PM

Wize, what intake is that? My Indy intake is going to have to be ported too.
Posted By: Streetwize

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/16/15 02:16 PM

That's the MP 337 for my 517 Max wedge, here it is uncut

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Posted By: Streetwize

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/16/15 02:20 PM

Feeding these Chapman 285 MW ports

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Posted By: sasquatch

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/17/15 05:38 AM

Larry has been porting my stuff for over a decade. He does all my stuff. His ability to match port volumes and blance between ports is uncanny. You will not be disappointed.
Todd
Posted By: justinp61

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/21/15 04:31 AM

After talking to a bunch head guys and engine builders I shipped my heads and intake to Larry Smith today. He wasn't at the shop when I called so Hollis gave me his cell number. I called and left a message explaining what I was looking for and within 10 minutes he called back. Super nice guy, he was on the phone with me for probably 15 minutes and answered all my questions.

Hollis also gave me Mark (MRL Lifters) number and I spent about 20 minutes on the phone with him. Another very nice knowledgeable guy who doesn't care to answer questions.

Hollis, you are A-1 in my book up. Thanks for hooking me up.

I also have to say thanks to Brett Miller for telling me straight up he was to busy to do the work I needed done and answering a ton of questions. I'm still afraid of that 4.25" crank deal though. biggrin
Posted By: HP Engines

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/21/15 06:07 AM

Thanks Justin, good talking today!
Posted By: BradH

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/21/15 02:18 PM

Originally Posted By justinp61
... Mark (MRL Lifters) number and I spent about 20 minutes on the phone with him. Another very nice knowledgeable guy who doesn't care to answer questions.

Doesn't CARE to answer questions, or doesn't MIND answering questions? I believe you meant the latter. grin
Posted By: Streetwize

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/21/15 02:22 PM

Justin,

I think you're gonna be REAL HAPPY with the people you're dealing with
Posted By: justinp61

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/21/15 08:36 PM

Originally Posted By BradH
Originally Posted By justinp61
... Mark (MRL Lifters) number and I spent about 20 minutes on the phone with him. Another very nice knowledgeable guy who doesn't care to answer questions.

Doesn't CARE to answer questions, or doesn't MIND answering questions? I believe you meant the latter. grin


Must be a regional thing, "doesn't care to help" or "doesn't mind helping" are the same thing around my part of the country. Very good guy regardless of the verbiage. up
Posted By: justinp61

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/21/15 08:42 PM

Originally Posted By Streetwize
Justin,

I think you're gonna be REAL HAPPY with the people you're dealing with


I think you're right Bobby. Hollis answered bunch of questions and explained some of stuff to me also. I felt bad taking up so much of his time and not buying anything from him. I will go through him for my lifters and will see about pistons.

I talked to Rod about a crank today, thinking about a 4.125" instead of a 4.250". This should be a fun little engine.
Posted By: Streetwize

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/21/15 09:30 PM

Stock block I'd go 4.125/6.200, Race Block I'd go 4.25"/6.25" 0r 6.300" with a SRP NASCAR Style slipper skirt piston and a .912" pin, still gives you a decent 1.15" CH

I remember Ron Silva built that 501" SB beast with a 4.500" (rifle drilled mains) crank

Always wanted to do a Resto Block with at least a 4.185" bore size and throw that 4.25" crank at it.

I threw the 4.25" in that W2 440"/360 just cause I'm never gonna rev it past maybe 6000-6200
Posted By: BradH

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/21/15 09:37 PM

Originally Posted By justinp61
Originally Posted By BradH
Originally Posted By justinp61
... Mark (MRL Lifters) number and I spent about 20 minutes on the phone with him. Another very nice knowledgeable guy who doesn't care to answer questions.

Doesn't CARE to answer questions, or doesn't MIND answering questions? I believe you meant the latter. grin


Must be a regional thing, "doesn't care to help" or "doesn't mind helping" are the same thing around my part of the country. Very good guy regardless of the verbiage. up

Do y'all pronounce the name "Mike" like "Mark" there, too? laugh2
Posted By: slammedR/T

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/21/15 10:10 PM

Originally Posted By Streetwize
Stock block I'd go 4.125/6.200, Race Block I'd go 4.25"/6.25" 0r 6.300" with a SRP NASCAR Style slipper skirt piston and a .912" pin, still gives you a decent 1.15" CH

I remember Ron Silva built that 501" SB beast with a 4.500" (rifle drilled mains) crank

Always wanted to do a Resto Block with at least a 4.185" bore size and throw that 4.25" crank at it.

I threw the 4.25" in that W2 440"/360 just cause I'm never gonna rev it past maybe 6000-6200


Stock small block mopar will fit the 4.125" stroke crank with 6.200" rods?? what about piston crown with that combo?? is it like the "426" stroker kit where the piston crown is thin and can't run more than 150 shot or boost on the combo?
Posted By: Streetwize

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/21/15 10:14 PM

my 440" W2 has 6.200 Rods and a $.25" stroke.

Hollis and I went with a SBC piston to get the CR like we wanted and wound up having to give it a new set of Eyebrows.

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Posted By: DavidDean

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/21/15 11:33 PM

If Bret is too busy try Brian at IMMengines.com. He did a set of 360-1 for me and they were EXCELLENT ! Great work ,great guy always very helpful. My X block, 360-1 headed 454 SB has been 5.66 @ 120. 4.125 bore 4.250 stroke from BPE also another great guy!
Posted By: one bad fish

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/22/15 12:56 AM

Originally Posted By DavidDean
If Bret is too busy try Brian at IMMengines.com. He did a set of 360-1 for me and they were EXCELLENT ! Great work ,great guy always very helpful. My X block, 360-1 headed 454 SB has been 5.66 @ 120. 4.125 bore 4.250 stroke from BPE also another great guy!
. How much did the car weigh
Posted By: HP Engines

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/22/15 05:40 AM

Hey Wize, if I remember specs correctly, it is an Icon 4.060 bore piston, we used.A 1.265 comp. height, which left .009 to cut off stock deck to achieve 0.0 deck @ the 18.6cc stepdish. Pin holes are pressure drilled with .927 pins. Material is 2618 alloy which is better for boost/nos. Ring pack is conventional 1/16, 1/16, 3/16 and top ring was still a good .200ish from piston quench. Although same valve orientation as sbc, we used oversized 11/32 intake valves, on a 15degree over the 23, along with the relocation of the w2 is where the valve relief fly cutting acured.
Posted By: DavidDean

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/22/15 04:28 PM

Originally Posted By one bad fish
Originally Posted By DavidDean
If Bret is too busy try Brian at IMMengines.com. He did a set of 360-1 for me and they were EXCELLENT ! Great work ,great guy always very helpful. My X block, 360-1 headed 454 SB has been 5.66 @ 120. 4.125 bore 4.250 stroke from BPE also another great guy!
. How much did the car weigh
2875 LBS
Posted By: justinp61

Re: Indy 360-1? - 04/22/15 09:10 PM

Originally Posted By BradH
Originally Posted By justinp61
Originally Posted By BradH
Originally Posted By justinp61
... Mark (MRL Lifters) number and I spent about 20 minutes on the phone with him. Another very nice knowledgeable guy who doesn't care to answer questions.

Doesn't CARE to answer questions, or doesn't MIND answering questions? I believe you meant the latter. grin


Must be a regional thing, "doesn't care to help" or "doesn't mind helping" are the same thing around my part of the country. Very good guy regardless of the verbiage. up

Do y'all pronounce the name "Mike" like "Mark" there, too? laugh2


Naw, we say it like ya'll do. What's bad is I didn't talk to Mark or Mike realcrazy . I talked to Brad at BAM thumbs. My youth is catching up with me work biggrin.
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