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E85 1250 CFM Dominator

Posted By: 65 Hemi

E85 1250 CFM Dominator - 02/16/15 02:07 AM

Has anybody every converted a Holley 1250 Dominator gas carb over to E85? If so, what were your results and any pointer would help. Going on a 540cid (4.28" bore X 4.50"stroke) 12.3:1 comp with Indy -1 heads and about a .680 lift roller.
Posted By: pattyboy 572

Re: E85 1250 CFM Dominator - 02/16/15 02:19 AM

Yes I have used quick fuel kit car slowed down from 9.75 to 9.82 mph dropped off about 3.5 mph.(on 572 with 12.3 comp.) save yourself some grief send it to mark sullens..... have not tried it yet. the transition slot is much to narrow per mark also the boosters in the kit were to large for my combination. and also it was converted to a two circuit.pat
Posted By: mopartony

Re: E85 1250 CFM Dominator - 02/16/15 05:46 AM

Mark Sullens is the man, waiting on dyno results of his 1050 on my 512.

He might think the 1250 is too big, I was worried about a 1050 on my 512 at 13:1 and 750+ lifts..
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: E85 1250 CFM Dominator - 02/16/15 04:27 PM

The 1250 carbs have a REALLY big throttle blade and tend to not work well on many motors. Just sharing my experience from what we have seem on other combos.
Posted By: Thumperdart

Re: E85 1250 CFM Dominator - 02/16/15 05:18 PM

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The 1250 carbs have a REALLY big throttle blade and tend to not work well on many motors. Just sharing my experience from what we have seem on other combos.




Exactly...........weaker signal in the wrong application for starters.
Posted By: pattyboy 572

Re: E85 1250 CFM Dominator - 02/16/15 06:19 PM

That exactly why mark installed the smaller boosters to increase signal strength.also due the increased viscosity of e-85.the other fact as mentioned earlier was the transition slot. pat
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: E85 1250 CFM Dominator - 02/16/15 09:07 PM

Try contacting AJ Casini on here for your conversion, I had him do a E 85 1150CFM HP Holley Dominator for me several years back, it works well It is on my 505 C.I,.400 block bracket motor, 4.350 bore with 4.250 stroke, it has ran a best of 9.003 at 147.7 MPH in my 2780 lb 1970 Cuda bracket car Hopefully I can tune it to run 8.90 at or above 150 MPH this year, I raced it on the throttle stop most of last year due to not having NHRA Comp. racing drivers license and safety gear until mid August of last year
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: E85 1250 CFM Dominator - 02/16/15 09:31 PM

Well Cab if ya need a driver I know a guy
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: E85 1250 CFM Dominator - 02/17/15 12:30 AM

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Well Cab if ya need a driver I know a guy


Not now, I bought the required gear and renew the old license I'm debating on to try traing my middle grandson or not He's the only one of the three that is interested in any kind of car or motorcylce racing. Same way with my daughter and son, they never wanted to drive the drag cars, they both loved riding two, three and four wheelers in the desert though, especaiily Dumont dunes The wife would drive my old stocker at George Air Force base on thier old 1/8 mile track but not on any 1/4 mile tracks, she said the car was to fast in the 1/4 It would run 95 MPH in the 1/8 and 117 in the 1/4 mile Now if you know someone who can retrain a old guy like me so they can win more than one or two rounds at each race I'm in
Posted By: camastomcat

Re: E85 1250 CFM Dominator - 02/17/15 01:53 AM

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Has anybody every converted a Holley 1250 Dominator gas carb over to E85? If so, what were your results and any pointer would help. Going on a 540cid (4.28" bore X 4.50"stroke) 12.3:1 comp with Indy -1 heads and about a .680 lift roller.




I did, sent it to APD and loved it. When I got to 16-1 compression, I sold it.
Posted By: Thumperdart

Re: E85 1250 CFM Dominator - 02/17/15 04:50 AM

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That exactly why mark installed the smaller boosters to increase signal strength.also due the increased viscosity of e-85.the other fact as mentioned earlier was the transition slot. pat




Then it`s no longer a 1250............
Posted By: racerx

Re: E85 1250 CFM Dominator - 02/17/15 06:04 AM

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Try contacting AJ Casini on here for your conversion, I had him do a E 85 1150CFM HP Holley Dominator for me several years back, it works well It is on my 505 C.I,.400 block bracket motor, 4.350 bore with 4.250 stroke, it has ran a best of 9.003 at 147.7 MPH in my 2780 lb 1970 Cuda bracket car Hopefully I can tune it to run 8.90 at or above 150 MPH this year, I raced it on the throttle stop most of last year due to not having NHRA Comp. racing drivers license and safety gear until mid August of last year


Cab.....do you remember what jets were in there?
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: E85 1250 CFM Dominator - 02/17/15 08:57 AM

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Try contacting AJ Casini on here for your conversion, I had him do a E 85 1150CFM HP Holley Dominator for me several years back, it works well It is on my 505 C.I,.400 block bracket motor, 4.350 bore with 4.250 stroke, it has ran a best of 9.003 at 147.7 MPH in my 2780 lb 1970 Cuda bracket car Hopefully I can tune it to run 8.90 at or above 150 MPH this year, I raced it on the throttle stop most of last year due to not having NHRA Comp. racing drivers license and safety gear until mid August of last year


Cab.....do you remember what jets were in there?


It came with 93 in the front with a power valve and 103 in the back.He did change the metering plates and put in a set of Dominator annular boosters with the flared skirts, probally doesn't flow 1150 anymore It does work very well, repeats like it is dead on
Posted By: pattyboy 572

Re: E85 1250 CFM Dominator - 02/17/15 02:03 PM

Thumper, consulted lee on booster size ,he said smaller would result in a weight savings.....LOL....
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: E85 1250 CFM Dominator - 02/17/15 05:16 PM

As I said before most of those OOTB Holley, QF 1250's have way to big a throttle blade/bore for probably 99% of the cars out there. Certainly from this board. Just been what I have seen. I think you will find plenty of them out there for sale and likely there is a reason.
Posted By: pattyboy 572

Re: E85 1250 CFM Dominator - 02/17/15 05:43 PM

Al ,ran with c12 vp and an 1150 cfm Holley,bolted on 1250 gen ootb,the car picked up a tenth and 3.5 mph ,my down fall was attempting to switch to e-85 with the 1250 i would have been better off converting the 1150 to e-85 than the 1250.just a few short months till we see marks results...pat
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: E85 1250 CFM Dominator - 02/17/15 05:58 PM

Not saying it aint for all just aint for most is all My carb is a good deal bigger CFM wise but with a more favorable blade booster sizing. Looking like my pair for the Predator will flow more cfm than 1250 as well.

IMO if it picked up that much over the 1150 it likely needed some more work, would be my opinion anytime an OOTB carb picks up from a previous carb of that size that was dialed in unless it was simply the worng carb to begin with. A tenth and 3.5MPH is a TON. Just sayin.
Posted By: pattyboy 572

Re: E85 1250 CFM Dominator - 02/17/15 09:21 PM

Al , you r 100% correct ,after three outings with the 1150, i replaced it with the 1250,had i spent more time with the 1150 i very well would have achieved the same result,(or better)but the carb was a gift and black looked good....then the e-85 deal came along pat
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: E85 1250 CFM Dominator - 02/17/15 09:41 PM

Hey I am not an expert by any means just trying to make an observation. I agree those black carbs look awesome!! We have played with E85 a bit, have a built carb for it. Still faster with Q so we always go back. I have the carb and over a half full drum of E85 I need to sell.
Posted By: an8sec70cuda

Re: E85 1250 CFM Dominator - 02/17/15 10:03 PM

FWIW...I have a Pro Systems 1150 based 1200 cfm Dominator on my 572" Hemi. I contacted them a few years ago to see about converting it over to E-85...they said they'd want to start w/ a 1250 main body. Something about the added volume of fuel, they'd want the bigger carb body and extra air flow. At that point it made more sense to just buy the E-85 carb complete than to have my good working carb converted...didn't want to spend that much at the time, so I never went ahead w/ it.
Posted By: pattyboy 572

Re: E85 1250 CFM Dominator - 02/17/15 10:13 PM

Exactly ,the added fuel volume, that's why Dwayne porter suggested the 440-3x manifold, because the additional e-85 required,displaces the required oxygen needed to supply the proper fuel mixture.pat ( AL... input and opinions are always welcome ,there's always an education that comes with em) ,thank you
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