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6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,,

Posted By: gregsdart

6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 03:16 AM

I got a phone message from Kevin Moore today. He received an email from Mopar saying the 6.1 blocks ought to be out late Feb, early March. Great news! At less than a grand, a brand new block honed to 4.055 only needing cam bearings! My motor will be 401.68 cubes, a bit better for the Apache heads!
Posted By: Uberpube

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 03:42 AM

Part number?
Posted By: slammedR/T

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 04:03 AM

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I got a phone message from Kevin Moore today. He received an email from Mopar saying the 6.1 blocks ought to be out late Feb, early March. Great news! At less than a grand, a brand new block honed to 4.055 only needing cam bearings! My motor will be 401.68 cubes, a bit better for the Apache heads!




What about 6.4 blocks or are they the smae block?
Posted By: gregsdart

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 04:09 AM

P5153816AB
The price I got on 10/26/14 -
927.00 + 16.95 shipping (?)for a total of $943.95
Monicatti Dodge or K & S performance, Kevin 248 439 0261

https://www.monicattichrysler.com
Posted By: gregsdart

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 04:14 AM

09 and up 5.7 and 6.4 are both Variable valve timing (VVT) blocks, which have different cams, covers, and cranks. They need more room up front to package all this, so the front of the block is different. Not sure on the cranks, but they need a different shape on the front, not sure how that is accomplished.
Posted By: slammedR/T

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 04:21 AM

how far can you bore a 6.1 block?
Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 04:25 AM

They,Mopar, have said they NEVER re-cast ANYTHING without revisions/improvements. I hope one of those is a cylinder thick enough to 4.20 ish. THAT would be a step in the right direction. Maybe they have applied some of the same cooling tweaks as the Hellcat block. The old 6.1 blocks were simply assembly line blocks left over when they switched to the 6.4 in 2010-11. I have no desire to buy a VVT block of any kind.
Posted By: gregsdart

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 04:26 AM

I here about .020 is it. The only other option for a non VVT block is the aluminum block, ($4,000) which I believe can go 4.185?
Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 04:28 AM

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how far can you bore a 6.1 block?


Rays is 4.09 I believe. That is about it on those. Hopefully these new ones AT LEAST have 6.4 sleeves that start at 4.09.
Posted By: slammedR/T

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 04:31 AM

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They,Mopar, have said they NEVER re-cast ANYTHING without revisions/improvements. I hope one of those is a cylinder thick enough to 4.20 ish. THAT would be a step in the right direction. Maybe they have applied some of the same cooling tweaks as the Hellcat block. The old 6.1 blocks were simply assembly line blocks left over when they switched to the 6.4 in 2010-11. I have no desire to buy a VVT block of any kind.




what is wrong with the vvt blocks?
Posted By: gregsdart

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 04:33 AM

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09 and up 5.7 and 6.4 are both Variable valve timing (VVT) blocks, which have different cams, covers, and cranks. They need more room up front to package all this, so the front of the block is different. Not sure on the cranks, but they need a different shape on the front, not sure how that is accomplished.


Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 04:39 AM

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They,Mopar, have said they NEVER re-cast ANYTHING without revisions/improvements. I hope one of those is a cylinder thick enough to 4.20 ish. THAT would be a step in the right direction. Maybe they have applied some of the same cooling tweaks as the Hellcat block. The old 6.1 blocks were simply assembly line blocks left over when they switched to the 6.4 in 2010-11. I have no desire to buy a VVT block of any kind.




what is wrong with the vvt blocks?


Nothing if your name is Steff lol! Cams are expensive and timing chains are subject IMO. They need the VVT feature locked out or deleted for the hot rodder. Quality of them is good to go though, just more of headache and $$$ for no advantage other than availability.
Posted By: slammedR/T

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 04:41 AM

I read the 6.4 blocks have better cooling and bigger bore capabilitys than the 6.1 blocks, is this true? if so why not run the 6.4 block even though they are vvt?
Posted By: hudsonhornet7x

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 04:43 AM

I have a 6.4 short block I am building and from what I gather the Hellcat has nearly identical timing chains as the 6.4. I remember there being problems with the 5.7 but has anyone heard of or seen a problem with the 6.4 chain?
Posted By: hudsonhornet7x

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 04:46 AM

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I read the 6.4 blocks have better cooling and bigger bore capabilitys than the 6.1 blocks, is this true? if so why not run the 6.4 block even though they are vvt?




A.C. Nutter has come up with a solution for us hot rodders that want to use a pre-vvt cam in a vvt block. Gets rid of it and also uses a different timing chain from what I understand.
http://www.nutterracingengines.com/
Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 04:54 AM

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I read the 6.4 blocks have better cooling and bigger bore capabilitys than the 6.1 blocks, is this true? if so why not run the 6.4 block even though they are vvt?


Honestly just sit tight and see what this new 6.1 block turns out to be. The aftermarket support sucks for the Gen III market as a whole but it really sucks more for the VVT blocks. Only failure I have seen is a guy with a Procharged 426" 6.4 do a REALLY long, like 10 minutes, WOT run and it seized the middle cam bearing, sheared the cam dowel and the rest is history. But the chain was fine lol! Im not even sure if the cam bearings are even serviceable on the VVT blocks.
Posted By: AlexP

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 04:55 AM

I'm buying one.

Start another motor before I fire this one...sure why not.
Posted By: slammedR/T

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 04:56 AM

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I read the 6.4 blocks have better cooling and bigger bore capabilitys than the 6.1 blocks, is this true? if so why not run the 6.4 block even though they are vvt?


Honestly just sit tight and see what this new 6.1 block turns out to be. The aftermarket support sucks for the Gen III market as a whole but it really sucks more for the VVT blocks. Only failure I have seen is a guy with a Procharged 426" 6.4 do a REALLY long, like 10 minutes, WOT run and it seized the middle cam bearing, sheared the cam dowel and the rest is history. But the chain was fine lol! Im not even sure if the cam bearings are even serviceable on the VVT blocks.




Sounds like a good idea
Posted By: MattW

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 05:12 AM

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They,Mopar, have said they NEVER re-cast ANYTHING without revisions/improvements. I hope one of those is a cylinder thick enough to 4.20 ish. THAT would be a step in the right direction. Maybe they have applied some of the same cooling tweaks as the Hellcat block. The old 6.1 blocks were simply assembly line blocks left over when they switched to the 6.4 in 2010-11. I have no desire to buy a VVT block of any kind.




Man I hope your right!
What would be the purpose of recasting an old block? Warranty? They could of kept the ones they sold to INDY for dirt cheap!
I'm hoping they added some meat to the thing
Matt
Posted By: sixpackgut

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 05:23 AM

I will hold out to see what mopar-wholesale sells them for but i'm going to get one. Ever since 340Rick posted pictures of his pistons, I wanted to build another one. Ill save the Apache heads for the next build

Yes, mine is now 4.09 but I have some cylindet walls under .1
Posted By: Leigh

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 06:07 AM

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P5153816AB
The price I got on 10/26/14 -
927.00 + 16.95 shipping (?)for a total of $943.95
Monicatti Dodge or K & S performance, Kevin 248 439 0261

https://www.monicattichrysler.com




That's 10% off MSRP.
Posted By: STEFF

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 01:45 PM

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what is wrong with the vvt blocks?


Nothing if your name is Steff lol!




LOL!
Posted By: MattW

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 02:17 PM

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I will hold out to see what mopar-wholesale sells them for but i'm going to get one. Ever since 340Rick posted pictures of his pistons, I wanted to build another one. Ill save the Apache heads for the next build

Yes, mine is now 4.09 but I have some cylindet walls under .1




I don't think you can compare the sonic #s with the old standard.
Most of the production blocks are thin but hold up very well. I think it may be the high nickel content of the new blocks
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 03:34 PM

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what is wrong with the vvt blocks?


Nothing if your name is Steff lol!




LOL!




at least reading some of these comments I now know why you were driven to fab up that belt drive!
Posted By: Quickrunner

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 04:07 PM

So are these new 6.1 blocks VVT?
Posted By: gregsdart

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 04:10 PM

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So are these new 6.1 blocks VVT?



no
Posted By: sixpackgut

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 05:44 PM

947 from mopar-wholesale

http://www.factorymoparparts.net/oe-mopar/p5153816ab?search_str=P5153816AB
Posted By: Quickrunner

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 07:28 PM

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So are these new 6.1 blocks VVT?



no




In that case I may look into getting one myself and just use this 5.7 block I have for mock up in the car.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 07:37 PM

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947 from mopar-wholesale

http://www.factorymoparparts.net/oe-mopar/p5153816ab?search_str=P5153816AB




I wonder if I can still get 25% off being a Chrysler
employee/retiree... I use to over at Monticotti
Posted By: STEFF

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 09:53 PM

This is great news!! These new 6.1 blocks will render the 6.4 VVT blocks worthless to the aftermarket and I can buy them for pennies on the dollar!!
Posted By: sixpackgut

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 09:55 PM

what I'm wondering is, how thick are the cylinder bores in the 5.7 blocks? is there any difference between the 6.1 and 5.7 at all?
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/15/15 10:36 PM

"IF" I were buying $920..... $1030 list. Shows 12 on backorder and no promised release date at the dealer level.
Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/16/15 12:28 AM

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what I'm wondering is, how thick are the cylinder bores in the 5.7 blocks? is there any difference between the 6.1 and 5.7 at all?


Some have said the early 5.7's could go to 4.00 bore pretty easy. The 6.1 ALL had 6.1 cast in the skirt by the pan rail and they ALL had oil jets installed. If you are wondering about wall thickness, I wouldn't be surprised if they are similar.
Posted By: 1967dartgt

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/16/15 01:03 AM

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"IF" I were buying $920..... $1030 list. Shows 12 on backorder and no promised release date at the dealer level.




So I guess if you want this guys you need to generate some more back orders.
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/16/15 02:44 AM

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"IF" I were buying $920..... $1030 list. Shows 12 on backorder and no promised release date at the dealer level.




So I guess if you want this guys you need to generate some more back orders.




That's what I'm sayin! I was a little too late on the 2nd R3 I tried to order.
Posted By: mdeane

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/16/15 03:42 AM

The early 5.7's were never designed for anything more then what they did and as soon as they started going over 400 hp the cylinders would not stay round. That's part of the reason SRT came out with the 6.1's so they could design in reinforcements inside the casting to increase the structural integrity that was needed for the increase in horsepower.
Posted By: slammedR/T

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/16/15 03:58 AM

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The early 5.7's were never designed for anything more then what they did and as soon as they started going over 400 hp the cylinders would not stay round. That's part of the reason SRT came out with the 6.1's so they could design in reinforcements inside the casting to increase the structural integrity that was needed for the increase in horsepower.




tell him to make us small block guys some blocks then
Posted By: WO23Coronet

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/16/15 05:07 AM

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The early 5.7's were never designed for anything more then what they did and as soon as they started going over 400 hp the cylinders would not stay round. That's part of the reason SRT came out with the 6.1's so they could design in reinforcements inside the casting to increase the structural integrity that was needed for the increase in horsepower.




I don't know about that, the early 5.7's (03-05) are supposed to be the beefiest of the early blocks and plenty of them well over 600 HP and I've never heard of a cylinder wall distortion issue, especially at 400 HP, which is pretty low. As a matter of fact the 5.7 is supposed to have beefier cylinder walls than a 6.1 as a general rule. The 6.1 was designed on its own merit and not because of a "problem" with the 5.7, I'd even guess the 6.1 was designed almost side by side with the 5.7 at the onset of Gen III HEMI design (2000 ish?)
Posted By: MattW

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/16/15 03:31 PM

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The early 5.7's were never designed for anything more then what they did and as soon as they started going over 400 hp the cylinders would not stay round. That's part of the reason SRT came out with the 6.1's so they could design in reinforcements inside the casting to increase the structural integrity that was needed for the increase in horsepower.




I don't know about that, the early 5.7's (03-05) are supposed to be the beefiest of the early blocks and plenty of them well over 600 HP and I've never heard of a cylinder wall distortion issue, especially at 400 HP, which is pretty low. As a matter of fact the 5.7 is supposed to have beefier cylinder walls than a 6.1 as a general rule. The 6.1 was designed on its own merit and not because of a "problem" with the 5.7, I'd even guess the 6.1 was designed almost side by side with the 5.7 at the onset of Gen III HEMI design (2000 ish?)








Now a 6.1 block with a 5.7 bore that would be feasible. And have plenty of meat

Matt
Posted By: AlexP

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/16/15 04:59 PM

I've never seen anything happen to a block in either format.

I've seen really bad machine work kill a 426 and I've seen stock block 5.7's go low 11's in a 4000+ car.

All of these block issues are nothing billet mains and a 1/3 fill wont fix. It's been done and it works.
Posted By: WO23Coronet

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/16/15 09:20 PM

Are the mains a weak spot in the Gen III's?
Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/16/15 10:19 PM

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The early 5.7's were never designed for anything more then what they did and as soon as they started going over 400 hp the cylinders would not stay round. That's part of the reason SRT came out with the 6.1's so they could design in reinforcements inside the casting to increase the structural integrity that was needed for the increase in horsepower.




I don't know about that, the early 5.7's (03-05) are supposed to be the beefiest of the early blocks and plenty of them well over 600 HP and I've never heard of a cylinder wall distortion issue, especially at 400 HP, which is pretty low. As a matter of fact the 5.7 is supposed to have beefier cylinder walls than a 6.1 as a general rule. The 6.1 was designed on its own merit and not because of a "problem" with the 5.7, I'd even guess the 6.1 was designed almost side by side with the 5.7 at the onset of Gen III HEMI design (2000 ish?)




Actually the block was ready for 2002 production in trucks, but Mercedes having just acquired Chrysler, did not like the fact that the block did not have MDS provisions, and didn't want two different blocks. The redesign is what delayed the 5.7 until 2003, and why the 5.9 Magnum was used instead. My understanding is that SRT group designed the 6.1 to their specs. SRT and Mopar Performance are separate groups that didn't (maybe still don't) play well together. MP wanted to release the 6.1 as a crate motor, but SRT wasn't having it. MP then stroked a 5.7 and offered it carb'd or injected, if I remember something over 500 HP. This started a [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] storm between SRT and MP. As you can see, 6.1 blocks will be available now that SRT is done with them. 6.2 and SRT 6.4's are available now, but only as short blocks in the 4K range.
Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/16/15 10:25 PM

The 392/540hp crate were 6.1 based with 3.79 cranks.
Posted By: MattW

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/16/15 10:56 PM

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Are the mains a weak spot in the Gen III's?





I don't think so. BES ran a 5.7 with stock bolts and caps. 700hp
Posted By: Cevidicus

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/16/15 11:47 PM

I wouldn't mind buying a 6.2 short block. Would be a great foundation for a turbo motor.

Anybody have a part number for one or a link?
Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/17/15 01:37 AM

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The 392/540hp crate were 6.1 based with 3.79 cranks.




Yes, I meant before the release. The 5.7 stroker made almost 600 HP. SRT and MP then got together on the 6.1.

I was still a dealer tech at the time but got to go to the Mothership at Sterling Heights on several occasions and talk with the engineers. Not sure how much is true, but was told roughly the same from a few different engineers.
Posted By: CJD AUTOMOTIVE

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/17/15 01:41 AM

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I wouldn't mind buying a 6.2 short block. Would be a great foundation for a turbo motor.

Anybody have a part number for one or a link?




Part number is 68262362AA. They have it on STAR restriction for QC. You'll need a VIN from a Hellcat and request the part based on other than warranty issue, i.e. hydro-lock from water crossing, etc...
Posted By: mdeane

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/23/15 03:50 AM

The information on the early 5.7 blocks going out of round over 400 hp and creating the reason for the development of the 6.1's came directly from one of the SRT engineers.
Posted By: knyech1

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/23/15 04:15 AM

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Are the mains a weak spot in the Gen III's?





I don't think so. BES ran a 5.7 with stock bolts and caps. 700hp




Typically the cylinders will crack under higher hp. Have seen some crack at 750 and some live past 1200hp, fairly dependent on tune.
Posted By: SRT440DUSTER

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/23/15 10:21 AM

I wouldnt be so quick to write off the vvt's. High horse performance just posted a dyno graph of a 5.7 with comp cams 274 , cam phaser and full exhaust making 442 hp and 413ftlbs at the wheel.
Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/23/15 12:13 PM

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I wouldnt be so quick to write off the vvt's. High horse performance just posted a dyno graph of a 5.7 with comp cams 274 , cam phaser and full exhaust making 442 hp and 413ftlbs at the wheel.


They did, about 2 years ago. VVT's are just as good as any older Gen III just more $$$$ and headache for the average hot rodder to use with whats currently available. The one thing about them is if you score one, the worst head it would have is the Eagle which is as good as a W5.
Posted By: WO23Coronet

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 01/23/15 05:24 PM

Maybe so, but history says otherwise, PLENTY of 5.7's over 400 HP (well over) with no issues
Posted By: Cuda367

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 02/12/15 10:38 AM

Any news now on ship date. I have one on order and received a ship date of feb 4then moved to 10th then 17th and now no date indicated. Have you heard anything?
Posted By: gregsdart

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 02/12/15 02:38 PM

Some time ago I was told late Feb, early March. Who gave you a ship date?
Posted By: Cuda367

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 02/12/15 02:57 PM

The dealer I ordered it from received the notice or information. He received it from Chrysler.
Posted By: gregsdart

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 02/13/15 01:40 PM

That is good to hear. We should get them SOME day!
Posted By: mshred

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 02/15/15 05:53 PM

Does anyone know if these blocks are finish machined? Cam bearings installed? If so, I think I am in for a few! Where are you guys ordering from??? I just got my Apache heads today, so the flame has been lit again!
Posted By: MattW

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 02/15/15 06:54 PM

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Does anyone know if these blocks are finish machined? Cam bearings installed? If so, I think I am in for a few! Where are you guys ordering from??? I just got my Apache heads today, so the flame has been lit again!




Matthew
My understanding is that they are fully machined

I'm thinking that they (Fiat) is probably waiting to see how many orders to fill before the production starts?

At the price that they were quoting they will sell a bunch. IMO
Posted By: mcat4321

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 02/15/15 08:22 PM

what is the price for a fully machined 6.1 block?
Posted By: MattW

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 02/15/15 08:38 PM

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what is the price for a fully machined 6.1 block?




1st page 3rd thread.
Posted By: gregsdart

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 02/16/15 06:39 AM

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Does anyone know if these blocks are finish machined? Cam bearings installed? If so, I think I am in for a few! Where are you guys ordering from??? I just got my Apache heads today, so the flame has been lit again!




Matthew
My understanding is that they are fully machined

I'm thinking that they (Fiat) is probably waiting to see how many orders to fill before the production starts?

At the price that they were quoting they will sell a bunch. IMO



I asked the guy that took my order, and he said they come 4.055 finished, ready for parts, but do not have cam bearings installed.
Posted By: mshred

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 02/16/15 05:36 PM

Thanks for the info guys! I am going to have to call my local dealer and see what they price it at...Between the shipping for the block from a place like factory mopar direct and the HORRID exchange rate we have right now in Canada, I am thinking it might actually be cheaper to buy it through a local dealer.
Posted By: MattW

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 02/16/15 06:04 PM

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Thanks for the info guys! I am going to have to call my local dealer and see what they price it at...Between the shipping for the block from a place like factory mopar direct and the HORRID exchange rate we have right now in Canada, I am thinking it might actually be cheaper to buy it through a local dealer.




Been there done that. Make sure your sitting down.

But let me know cuz you never now
Matt
Posted By: mshred

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 02/16/15 06:11 PM

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Thanks for the info guys! I am going to have to call my local dealer and see what they price it at...Between the shipping for the block from a place like factory mopar direct and the HORRID exchange rate we have right now in Canada, I am thinking it might actually be cheaper to buy it through a local dealer.




Been there done that. Make sure your sitting down.

But let me know cuz you never now
Matt




I know, your probably right about that one lol

But Im going to anyways, and yes I will let you know...I have a feeling I may be in a small state of shock lol
Posted By: MattW

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 02/16/15 06:53 PM

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Thanks for the info guys! I am going to have to call my local dealer and see what they price it at...Between the shipping for the block from a place like factory mopar direct and the HORRID exchange rate we have right now in Canada, I am thinking it might actually be cheaper to buy it through a local dealer.




Been there done that. Make sure your sitting down.

But let me know cuz you never now
Matt




I know, your probably right about that one lol

But Im going to anyways, and yes I will let you know...I have a feeling I may be in a small state of shock lol




Even though we are a stones throw away we are still under international pricing
Posted By: MattW

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 03/03/15 04:47 PM

Anyone one have some more info on the blocks?
Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 03/03/15 11:03 PM

Dave Weber said August for 6.1's and he can get unfinished 6.4 blocks now.
Posted By: slammedR/T

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 03/03/15 11:55 PM

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Dave Weber said August for 6.1's and he can get unfinished 6.4 blocks now.




Any pricing on the 6.4 blocks?
Posted By: MattW

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 03/04/15 12:11 AM

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Dave Weber said August for 6.1's and he can get unfinished 6.4 blocks now.




Please Elaborate on the 6.4.
Posted By: john55

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 03/04/15 12:32 AM

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Dave Weber said August for 6.1's and he can get unfinished 6.4 blocks now.




Please Elaborate on the 6.4.





Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 03/04/15 01:31 AM

http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread...551#post4740551
There ya go, call him he knows his Gen III's.
Posted By: Cuda367

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 03/04/15 05:38 AM

This is very upsetting news for me. I would assume Dave has some contacts at Chrysler. I have cancer and june is just not acceptable. I think it is terrible that we have no way to talk to who ever has direct information on this and things like this. I can think of no other business that I deal with that you cannot get direct contact with them. Where did Zippy go? Anybody have any idea on how to get correct information. I wish I was at some national event to try and talk to Roy or other "factory racers". Will try to contact Barton tomorrow to see if has info.
Posted By: onig

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 04/09/15 12:18 AM

Anybody heard or have any updates.
Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 11/27/15 07:37 AM

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Posted By: J_BODY

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 11/27/15 08:24 AM

supplier in transit..... zero. has anyone tried to order one? average national weekly demand shows zero.
Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 11/28/15 12:26 AM

Nobody has one ordered, 0 on backorder according to my dealer. I dont need one right now, but it would be nice if some guys could get the demand up.
Posted By: 496 A-body

Re: 6.1 blocks are coming,,,,,,,,,,, - 11/28/15 03:46 AM

I ordered one on the Monicatti website, a few days later they emailed saying that the blocks weren't available and that they were refunding my card.
Indy cylinder head has new 6.1 blocks available for $1995 if anyone needs one that bad
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