Posted By: fishy340
Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/08/14 03:58 AM
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Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray
Posted By: 1967dartgt
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/08/14 04:01 AM
Nice hit in a charger! Wonder what it weights.
Posted By: gremlinsteve
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/09/14 12:57 AM
4k pounds
Turbo 400 and one of my cams.
Sounds good and makes nice passes. That was single stage hit, that car has another stage too.
Turbo 400 and one of my cams.
Sounds good and makes nice passes. That was single stage hit, that car has another stage too.
Posted By: gremlinsteve
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/09/14 01:14 AM
Cams in the high 250s at .050
Very hard to tune with the stock electronics.
Aj from Arrington did the tune.
Sadly, Dan was forced to sell the car to finance his kids college
Very hard to tune with the stock electronics.
Aj from Arrington did the tune.
Sadly, Dan was forced to sell the car to finance his kids college
Posted By: 1967dartgt
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/09/14 02:05 AM
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Cams in the high 250s at .050
Very hard to tune with the stock electronics.
Aj from Arrington did the tune.
Sadly, Dan was forced to sell the car to finance his kids college
Ouch that stinks, heard from him that it's best was on one stage not two.
Posted By: WO23Coronet
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/09/14 02:10 AM
Wow, what would it be in a 3000 lb A body? Low 8's?
Posted By: gremlinsteve
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/09/14 02:20 AM
Yes, that was on a single stage.
The car has another 250-300 shot on top of that.
I dunno what it would run at 3k
Aj has a chally that's 3750 that's run a best of 8.71 at 159
That's with a lazy to me 1.32 short time
The car has another 250-300 shot on top of that.
I dunno what it would run at 3k
Aj has a chally that's 3750 that's run a best of 8.71 at 159
That's with a lazy to me 1.32 short time
Posted By: 1967dartgt
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/09/14 02:43 AM
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Wow, what would it be in a 3000 lb A body? Low 8's?
Approximatly 8.22@164 based off his current ET and 4000 pound weight.
Posted By: mshred
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/09/14 03:47 AM
So I am confused after seeing this video- a lot of people say the Hemi's don't do well or like to ingest large amounts of nitrous, including the new stuff...This one seems to do a hell of a job though of it! 
Posted By: mshred
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/09/14 03:58 AM
Check out this 300C...Runs hard, sounds HORNY, has a sheet manifold on it, and has nitrous pro flow fogger on it.
Would love to know the details on it although its a grudge car so ain't gonna find much I know...but what appears to be another hard running G3 on spray
Would love to know the details on it although its a grudge car so ain't gonna find much I know...but what appears to be another hard running G3 on spray
Posted By: HotRodDave
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/09/14 04:15 AM
Find someone to show you pics of a broken block. I haven't seen even one yet, or even heard of one. The only issue seems to be oiling the crank at very high RPM. Put a decent rotating kit in it and I don't think it is gonna break any thing, especially if you put more cubes in it to bring the RPM down.
They can and do run very good, they took the top two spots in the engine masters challenge, the stock block is trusted by the factory to handle 800 hp in the hellcat (707HP Net+80HP to drive the blower+a little room for safety). There are plenty of bad to the bone gen III running awesome times in super stock, even stock heavy turds running very fast.
Anyone saying they don't do well is a cheby or ferd guy scared to admit the truth.
They can and do run very good, they took the top two spots in the engine masters challenge, the stock block is trusted by the factory to handle 800 hp in the hellcat (707HP Net+80HP to drive the blower+a little room for safety). There are plenty of bad to the bone gen III running awesome times in super stock, even stock heavy turds running very fast.
Anyone saying they don't do well is a cheby or ferd guy scared to admit the truth.
Posted By: 1967dartgt
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/09/14 04:19 AM
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Find someone to show you pics of a broken block. I haven't seen even one yet, or even heard of one. The only issue seems to be oiling the crank at very high RPM. Put a decent rotating kit in it and I don't think it is gonna break any thing, especially if you put more cubes in it to bring the RPM down.
They can and do run very good, they took the top two spots in the engine masters challenge, the stock block is trusted by the factory to handle 800 hp in the hellcat (707HP Net+80HP to drive the blower+a little room for safety). There are plenty of bad to the bone gen III running awesome times in super stock, even stock heavy turds running very fast.
Anyone saying they don't do well is a cheby or ferd guy scared to admit the truth.
The guy that went 8.90s with his, split the block when he turned the second kit on.
Posted By: 1967dartgt
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/09/14 04:23 AM
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So I am confused after seeing this video- a lot of people say the Hemi's don't do well or like to ingest large amounts of nitrous, including the new stuff...This one seems to do a hell of a job though of it!
Gen 2 and gen 3 hemis have very different chambers. So when people say hemis don't like spray I believe they are talking gen 2. Gen 3 don't like spray because of factory rods and pistons, once you change them out its a different story.
Posted By: misfired
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/09/14 05:15 AM
Yea I'm not totally sure where the "they don't like nitrous" came from. They are a quench styled "Hemi" head, two plugs, so that kind of sucks do to cost of 16 plugs, but who cares lol and there is a split 6.1 on eBay right now and I'm pretty sure Tim Barth killed a few but with boost.his solution was just to hard block it if irc
Posted By: mshred
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/09/14 05:22 AM
I always knew that the G3 and G2 hemi's had different chambers, but again, I have heard (or should say READ) that neither favor nitrous...Not saying that it is correct either, since some of these cars totally fly in the face of that statement. Just bringing up what others have stated are facts
Posted By: gremlinsteve
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/09/14 05:29 AM
Dans motor shifts at 7200 if I remember correct
Posted By: knyech1
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/09/14 06:06 AM
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Find someone to show you pics of a broken block. I haven't seen even one yet, or even heard of one. The only issue seems to be oiling the crank at very high RPM. Put a decent rotating kit in it and I don't think it is gonna break any thing, especially if you put more cubes in it to bring the RPM down.
They can and do run very good, they took the top two spots in the engine masters challenge, the stock block is trusted by the factory to handle 800 hp in the hellcat (707HP Net+80HP to drive the blower+a little room for safety). There are plenty of bad to the bone gen III running awesome times in super stock, even stock heavy turds running very fast.
Anyone saying they don't do well is a cheby or ferd guy scared to admit the truth.
The guy that went 8.90s with his, split the block when he turned the second kit on.
The hellcat block should not be mistaken for the 6.1 or 5.7 block. There are lots of numbers thrown out there about what they can take as usual. I have heard the 6.1 crank is good to 1200hp, the factory PM rods good to 700, pistons are no good. The story with the block varies of course, same old story. I have seen guys blow 5.7 and 6.1 blocks and crack the cylinders at 750hp. There's really not much there, after all, if you measure the walls. But then I have seen guys run a twin turbo setup and make 1200hp at the crank on a 5.7 based stroker. Tune matters quite a bit, and your life expectancy of the setup. Talked to a guy a while back that bought the aluminum race block in his turbo challenger. Got him in the 8's, cracked the cylinders after 20 passes. He had Darton sleeves in the thing too. Just depends. I don't know if I would trust the 5.7 or 6.1 block much past 800. The 6.4 block is a different story, but even at 800 that's a ton of power for a factory platform! These engines are awesome for sure.
Posted By: fishy340
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/09/14 06:18 AM
I was watching a Payso productions video on FB of a 300 grudge car which sounded beautiful with spray.
I would post it but theirs cursing and other stuff...anyway at the end of the video he makes a hit and boom motor I believe is scrap.
I would post it but theirs cursing and other stuff...anyway at the end of the video he makes a hit and boom motor I believe is scrap.
Posted By: 72Swinger
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/09/14 06:31 AM
There is a 6.1/393 engine that was in a couple different cars before it was put in its final car. In the last car it was run on the street and raced at the track with somewhere between 1100-1200 WHP with a turbo AND nitrous for 2 years and a couple weeks ago it lost a head gasket and hydroed, busted 2-3-4 main caps in between the main studs. This was a factory 6.1 block with factory main caps. If it wasn't for losing a HG it would probably still be going.
Posted By: hudsonhornet7x
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/09/14 06:36 AM
The 6.4 block is a different story, but even at 800 that's a ton of power for a factory platform! These engines are awesome for sure.
What makes a 6.4 block stonger? Thicker Cylinder walls?
What makes a 6.4 block stonger? Thicker Cylinder walls?
Posted By: Rob C
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/09/14 04:06 PM
Pretty much the entire block has improvements to it. IIRC, MoPar Muscle has a read on it.
Posted By: OUTLAWD
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/09/14 05:10 PM
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I was watching a Payso productions video on FB of a 300 grudge car which sounded beautiful with spray.
I would post it but theirs cursing and other stuff...anyway at the end of the video he makes a hit and boom motor I believe is scrap.
Got a link? can PM...Payso is a local for me.
Posted By: 1967dartgt
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/09/14 06:13 PM
Posted By: HotRodDave
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/09/14 06:20 PM
The factory 5.7 PM rods are junk, that is about the only reason we have to replace stock motors. Usually no other damage except where the rod poked through the side of the block, cranks are fine most of the time, heck even the bearings could be used in a pinch.
Posted By: mshred
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/10/14 12:33 AM
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I was watching a Payso productions video on FB of a 300 grudge car which sounded beautiful with spray.
I would post it but theirs cursing and other stuff...anyway at the end of the video he makes a hit and boom motor I believe is scrap.
The video you guys are talking about that Brad posted is the one I was talking about last night that I meant to post...I always do that with links, talk about them but forget to post em...LOL
Bad car though man!
Posted By: mphsmitch
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/10/14 02:19 AM
Quote:My buddy that has a 4 dr G-Body Malibu was trying to set up a grudge race that day at SGMP with him till he blew it up. The car is from the south fla area and I hear that they are trying to set something up soon.Quote:
I was watching a Payso productions video on FB of a 300 grudge car which sounded beautiful with spray.
I would post it but theirs cursing and other stuff...anyway at the end of the video he makes a hit and boom motor I believe is scrap.
Got a link? can PM...Payso is a local for me.
Posted By: 72Swinger
Re: Arrington 426 gen 3 on a 400 hit of spray - 12/10/14 04:43 AM
It looked like he was shy a fuel pump on that run.