Posted By: camastomcat
New Predator 604 - 09/23/14 05:08 AM
Trying to load pic of the new bullet.
New Predator 604
Posted By: Eric
Re: New Predator 604 - 09/23/14 05:10 AM
Sick.. 
Posted By: 1967dartgt
Re: New Predator 604 - 09/23/14 05:10 AM
Looks killer, good luck with it.
Posted By: madscientist
Re: New Predator 604 - 09/23/14 05:12 AM
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Trying to load pic of the new bullet.
Now keep us posted with ET's.
Posted By: camastomcat
Re: New Predator 604 - 09/23/14 05:17 AM
Another one of the whole car. It's 604 CI, no dyno info, Winberg 4.625X4.5600, Marcella, 460cc heads, we'll hopefully see how it runs this weekend. I worked like a dog on this thing, so did my friends. A special thank you to boatracer 572, Fastlane Machine, Brian Liebe, Rod Harbrink, and others.
Posted By: boatracer572
Re: New Predator 604 - 09/23/14 05:27 AM
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Another one of the whole car. It's 604 CI, no dyno info, Winberg 4.625X4.5600, Marcella, 460cc heads, we'll hopefully see how it runs this weekend. I worked like a dog on this thing, so did my friends. A special thank you to boatracer 572, Fastlane Machine, Brian Liebe, Rod Harbrink, and others.
Looks good Tom....
Posted By: sasquatch
Re: New Predator 604 - 09/23/14 06:55 AM
Man you guys and your Chevy motors!!!! 
:laugh
Hey what kind of purple shaft you got in that thing.....
Sorry I could not help my self. Good luck Tom.
Todd
:laughHey what kind of purple shaft you got in that thing.....
Sorry I could not help my self. Good luck Tom.
Todd
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: New Predator 604 - 09/23/14 07:17 AM
Looks familiar 
Posted By: Diablo
Re: New Predator 604 - 09/23/14 03:18 PM
Nice! Good luck with it buddy!!!
Posted By: supercomp
Re: New Predator 604 - 09/23/14 04:41 PM
Tom an Al I hope they both fly. Not literlly. Can't wait to see the et's.
Can't wait to see the et's.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: New Predator 604 - 09/23/14 04:59 PM
Looks good, hope it meets all your expectations 
Posted By: Tig
Re: New Predator 604 - 09/23/14 06:45 PM
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Man you guys and your Chevy motors!!!!
Hey what kind of purple shaft you got in that thing.....
Sorry I could not help my self. Good luck Tom.
Todd
Dude, you are a naughty man!
Posted By: Al_Alguire
Re: New Predator 604 - 09/23/14 06:47 PM
Mine has a very special really big purple shaft in it 
tom's motor seems to be missing the bungs in the runners
tom's motor seems to be missing the bungs in the runners
Posted By: camastomcat
Re: New Predator 604 - 09/23/14 07:10 PM
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Mine has a very special really big purple shaft in it
tom's motor seems to be missing the bungs in the runners
Well that's cause my purple shaft isn't as big as yours........
Posted By: Eric
Re: New Predator 604 - 09/23/14 08:58 PM
You might want to let go of it if it's turning purple...
Posted By: SpareParts
Re: New Predator 604 - 09/24/14 01:22 AM
Just when I thought my small block was cool 
Posted By: Biginchmopar
Re: New Predator 604 - 09/25/14 12:22 AM
I'll be joining the party soon! 
Posted By: Leigh
Re: New Predator 604 - 09/25/14 12:28 AM
Those are some pretty moders. Good luck to all!
Posted By: camastomcat
Re: New Predator 604 New results - 09/27/14 05:16 PM
I have some more results. Went to the track test and tune at the divisional yesterday. The car ran great but I need more time to get another 100 or so, horsepower out of it. There are several changes that need to be made but, it ran a best of 7.56@177 at 7250 corrected altitude. It's very fat and has a half second flat spot right after the hit so I feel confident that it makes good power. Oh... and now it weighs in at 2000 lbs.
Posted By: MRMOPAR622
Re: New Predator 604 New results - 09/27/14 05:47 PM
If it didn't break any parts at least that's a good,that means all you need to do is a little tuning! Don't over look the Torque Converter you would not think it would matter in a dragster with a Big engine but it does.
Don't over look the Torque Converter you would not think it would matter in a dragster with a Big engine but it does.
Posted By: Thumperdart
Re: New Predator 604 - 09/27/14 06:00 PM
NICE................. 
I have cubes envy now..............
I have cubes envy now..............
Posted By: camastomcat
Re: New Predator 604 New results - 09/27/14 06:54 PM
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If it didn't break any parts at least that's a good,that means all you need to do is a little tuning!
The torque converter is right where it needs to be when jumping around in elevation, and I agree, it can be the most important part of the equation. I needs some tuning for sure.
Posted By: FastmOp
Re: New Predator 604 New results - 09/27/14 08:19 PM
Can you post the incrementals like 60', 330', 1/8 ET/MPH , and 1000' as well. Or a pic of the slip.
Congrats on a good 1st outing!
Congrats on a good 1st outing!
Posted By: camastomcat
Re: New Predator 604 New results - 09/28/14 02:40 AM
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Can you post the incrementals like 60', 330', 1/8 ET/MPH , and 1000' as well. Or a pic of the slip.
Congrats on a good 1st outing!
I'll try to go with what I remember, as I just got home from the rain out of today. The 60ft was 1.12, the eighth mile was 4.820@144.4 on the last pass, 1000ft was I believe 6.30. It only had 7 inches of vacuum, was 11.8-12.4 A/F, and the 60 ft was .030 slow. Needs some tuning. I fixed most of it today but probably won't get to try it out till 2015. All I can say is, the power is there, I just need to figure out how to apply it. I struggled with the B1 deal for a while before so this doesn't surprise me. Thanks to Boatracer 572 for screwing it together for me and picking the combo.
Posted By: boatracer572
Re: New Predator 604 New results - 09/28/14 05:05 PM
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Can you post the incrementals like 60', 330', 1/8 ET/MPH , and 1000' as well. Or a pic of the slip.
Congrats on a good 1st outing!
I'll try to go with what I remember, as I just got home from the rain out of today. The 60ft was 1.12, the eighth mile was [Email]4.820@144.4[/Email] on the last pass, 1000ft was I believe 6.30. It only had 7 inches of vacuum, was 11.8-12.4 A/F, and the 60 ft was .030 slow. Needs some tuning. I fixed most of it today but probably won't get to try it out till 2015. All I can say is, the power is there, I just need to figure out how to apply it. I struggled with the B1 deal for a while before so this doesn't surprise me. Thanks to Boatracer 572 for screwing it together for me and picking the combo.
Posted By: FastmOp
Re: New Predator 604 New results - 09/28/14 06:02 PM
Thanks gents!
Sounds like a fun ride!
Sounds like a fun ride!
Posted By: camastomcat
Re: New Predator 604 New results - 09/29/14 01:09 AM
Update from today....best pass was 7.517@178.15. Re-weighed and was really 2060 lbs. It runs the big end great! Thanks Tony!
Posted By: WO23Coronet
Re: New Predator 604 New results - 09/29/14 02:02 AM
7" of vacuum, would make a nice street engine with that amount of vacuum wouldn't it?
Posted By: camastomcat
Re: New Predator 604 New results - 09/29/14 02:05 AM
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7" of vacuum, would make a nice street engine with that amount of vacuum wouldn't it?
Uh....yep. It's up to 10.5 now with more left.
Posted By: Chris'sBarracuda
Re: New Predator 604 New results - 09/29/14 10:38 AM
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Update from today....best pass was [Email]7.517@178.15.[/Email] Re-weighed and was really 2060 lbs. It runs the big end great! Thanks Tony!
With a correction factor of 1.22, you should be at least 1175 hp..
That's actual hp based on your ET and MPH..
Also, your humidity was way up there.. I see 1200+ hp out of this in good conditions....
Chris..
Posted By: camastomcat
Re: New Predator 604 New results - 09/29/14 06:45 PM
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Update from today....best pass was [Email]7.517@178.15.[/Email] Re-weighed and was really 2060 lbs. It runs the big end great! Thanks Tony!
With a correction factor of 1.22, you should be at least 1175 hp..
That's actual hp based on your ET and MPH..
Also, your humidity was way up there.. I see 1200+ hp out of this in good conditions....
Chris..
Actually Chris, the correction factor was almost exactly 1.22, it was 1.24. That's what HP Boat racer was after and predicted. Thank God at least someone knows about these Predators! Indy was absolutely no help. They only care about what they're selling at the time you talk to them, information is nil. The cam was also spec'd for a 540 so, with an application selected camshaft, it should make more power.
Also, compression was down from where we wanted to be because we had to cut the domes off the pistons, as they were made wrong. I sure liked paying extra for for something I eventually had to pay more to have removed.
Oh well, I'm happy it is rocking now. Also spent a fortune on head gaskets, Indy wasn't willing to help, just dictate what should be bought from them, of course. Hemi block with Predator heads, is not as easy as it sounds, believe me. Flat out gaskets has them now though. I know, I helped in the creation of them!
Posted By: HardcoreB
Re: New Predator 604 New results - 09/30/14 12:45 AM
Nice build, I'm glad to see it making good power. Good job to all involved.
Posted By: Jeepmon
Re: New Predator 604 New results - 09/30/14 06:14 AM
Congrats Tom, I know its been a long road for you.. glad to hear you're out running it..
Can we get a Predator show down next MATs? You vs Al... lol
Can we get a Predator show down next MATs? You vs Al... lol
Posted By: sc301v
Re: New Predator 604 New results - 09/30/14 09:24 PM
Are you happy with that E.T. ???
Posted By: camastomcat
Re: New Predator 604 New results - 09/30/14 09:37 PM
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Are you happy with that E.T. ???
Considering the weight gain, that I may not be able to confirm until I get to another divisional and that I was in 7250 ft corrected altitude, yes. I'm pretty sure with different gears, possibly a different converter, better A/F ratio, a chance to play with tire pressure, different headers, I'll be able get .15-.25 out of it. I think Tony's prediction of 1200+ HP is spot on. Thanks for all the comments guys!
Posted By: supercomp
Re: New Predator 604 New results - 10/01/14 03:17 PM
Where did all the extra weight come from? The iron block?
Posted By: camastomcat
Re: New Predator 604 New results - 10/01/14 03:53 PM
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Where did all the extra weight come from? The iron block?
Yep, the aluminum block was 140#, and the iron block is 300. Then you have bigger, heavier heads, steel rods, heavier center counter weighted billet crankshaft, and 2 carbs. I'll need to weigh it at another track to really know though. Some said the scales were 60#'s light, and I heard yesterday it was only 10#'s light. The car weighed 2000#'s so I'll re-weigh it at the next race.