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904/727 burnout on the street

Posted By: mshred

904/727 burnout on the street - 08/26/14 07:36 PM

Is anybody starting their burnouts in first gear and shifting to 2nd and then 3rd? I am running a 904, transbrake non LBA valve body.

I am having trouble getting my car to hold still burning out startin in 2nd, even coming in to the burnout at close to 6k with some water on the ground. Car just wants to push forward big time.

I am wondering if my summit 4 yr old line lock is the culprit, but I just tested it on my hill of a driveway and it holds there. I pump the brakes 4-5 times, hold the button, let off the brake and go. Even at the track unless there is alot of water, my car just grabs and wants to try to hook instead of spin the tires.

What could be causing this? I need to be able to get some heat into these tires on the road. Would starting in 1st gear help? Is my linelock no good?
Posted By: 1967dartgt

Re: 904/727 burnout on the street - 08/26/14 07:49 PM

Yes start in first, make a fast stab of throttle not slowly getting in it. Then shift second under power as soon as possible. I think you would have better success using vht.
Posted By: SpareParts

Re: 904/727 burnout on the street - 08/26/14 08:59 PM

Everything Brad said but I cut VHT with acetone. It works but for the prep to really work you have to have rubber down first. We have a patch 30 seconds from the shop that bogged a 4500 rpm launch in a stick car lol
Posted By: 1980volare

Re: 904/727 burnout on the street - 08/27/14 12:06 AM

Mek, and dr pepper almost 50/50 ratio. Drag it out as far as you can, roll back into it. I start in 1st, and shift to second. Non lba manual vb
Posted By: 383man

Re: 904/727 burnout on the street - 08/27/14 01:29 AM

I have rarely done burnouts on the street but a few times I have layed into it in first where it smokes em up and I pretty much do what the others here do. If I lay into it in first I make sure I do not get off the gas pedal and shift to second as soon as I can. Ron
Posted By: n20mstr

Re: 904/727 burnout on the street - 08/27/14 02:36 AM

What works great on the street,put a small puddle in front of each rear tire ( about the size of a pancake ) then pour a line up to the front tire. (VHT or other traction compound ) start your burnout, and as soon as it starts smoking, roll out and continue the burnout about 80 feet. Back up into the tracks you just put down ......and your good to go
Posted By: SpareParts

Re: 904/727 burnout on the street - 08/27/14 04:53 AM

Poor boy sprayer = 2 liter bottle with a bunch of holes in the cap.
Posted By: tubtar

Re: 904/727 burnout on the street - 08/27/14 05:02 AM

Are you doing burnouts on the street to heat them up or scare the neighbors ?
In my mis-spent youth ( I hope the kids aren't reading this )we put down drain oil.
A six cylinder car looked like John Force.
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: 904/727 burnout on the street - 08/27/14 05:13 AM

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Mek, and dr pepper almost 50/50 ratio. Drag it out as far as you can, roll back into it. I start in 1st, and shift to second. Non lba manual vb



Let me guess how this comes about... Bunch of guys, a few cars, and muscle car hormones. Inventory: "well, we have beer, piss, and Dr Pepper". "Oh and here's some MEK in the trunk." "Hmmm....no brainer; let's mix the Dr Pepper and MEK and see what happens".
Posted By: mshred

Re: 904/727 burnout on the street - 08/27/14 05:35 AM

Thanks for the replies fellas! I will start the burnouts in first gear.

The way we were doing it was laid down some rubber...then sprayed some VHT on the rubber, lit on fire with a torch, puddle of VHT under the tires, burnout and carry it out a couple of times, and then try a launch.

This was on asphalt, on motor, and on a radial pro...even footbraking at 1500rpm blew the tires off, but then again, I couldn't do a "real" burnout. Wondering if I can get the radials to work or if I am wasting my time and should go to an ET street bias or Hoosier QTP
Posted By: mshred

Re: 904/727 burnout on the street - 08/27/14 05:36 AM

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Everything Brad said but I cut VHT with acetone. It works but for the prep to really work you have to have rubber down first. We have a patch 30 seconds from the shop that bogged a 4500 rpm launch in a stick car lol



How much acetone to VHT? We were using a sprayer and using straight VHT.

I want to avoid using the MEK [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean], hear it is pretty serious [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] and better off to stay away from it if you can.
Posted By: mshred

Re: 904/727 burnout on the street - 08/27/14 05:37 AM

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Are you doing burnouts on the street to heat them up or scare the neighbors ?
In my mis-spent youth ( I hope the kids aren't reading this )we put down drain oil.
A six cylinder car looked like John Force.



To heat them up and take care of some business
Posted By: cheapstreetdustr

Re: 904/727 burnout on the street - 08/27/14 05:44 AM

just go to the junk yard get an old electric windshield washer bottle and pump..mount it in the trunk and run the hoses to the front of the rear tire in the wheel wheel...put a button on the dash..
fill it with what ever you want and spray the rears any time you need to...
Posted By: 1967dartgt

Re: 904/727 burnout on the street - 08/27/14 05:52 AM

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just go to the junk yard get an old electric windshield washer bottle and pump..mount it in the trunk and run the hoses to the front of the rear tire in the wheel wheel...put a button on the dash..
fill it with what ever you want and spray the rears any time you need to...



Vht clogs that up, won't work. But works with straight water.
Posted By: SpareParts

Re: 904/727 burnout on the street - 08/27/14 01:31 PM

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Everything Brad said but I cut VHT with acetone. It works but for the prep to really work you have to have rubber down first. We have a patch 30 seconds from the shop that bogged a 4500 rpm launch in a stick car lol



How much acetone to VHT? We were using a sprayer and using straight VHT.

I want to avoid using the MEK [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean], hear it is pretty serious [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] and better off to stay away from it if you can.


Start around 50/50 mixing smaller batches, temperature does come into play. There was a good thread on YB in TOBT about a month ago that is very helpful. I'm retired from the street stuff lol
Posted By: mshred

Re: 904/727 burnout on the street - 08/27/14 04:05 PM

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Everything Brad said but I cut VHT with acetone. It works but for the prep to really work you have to have rubber down first. We have a patch 30 seconds from the shop that bogged a 4500 rpm launch in a stick car lol



How much acetone to VHT? We were using a sprayer and using straight VHT.

I want to avoid using the MEK [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean], hear it is pretty serious [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] and better off to stay away from it if you can.


Start around 50/50 mixing smaller batches, temperature does come into play. There was a good thread on YB in TOBT about a month ago that is very helpful. I'm retired from the street stuff lol



Cool, I'll try to find it though I have been doing some searches on there and nothing recent came up for me
Posted By: SpareParts

Re: 904/727 burnout on the street - 08/27/14 04:31 PM

I'll look through my posts there and send you a link later
Posted By: 1980volare

Re: 904/727 burnout on the street - 08/27/14 10:20 PM

Lol good one. We race on the street a bunch, it's a cheaper alternative to vht, and serves a purpose. It'd take to long to explain how it puts the rubber onto the pavement.





They sell Mek at lowes, Home Depot, walmart. It's just as dangerous as gasoline. I mean we arnt drinking it.
Posted By: mshred

Re: 904/727 burnout on the street - 08/28/14 04:56 AM

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Lol good one. We race on the street a bunch, it's a cheaper alternative to vht, and serves a purpose. It'd take to long to explain how it puts the rubber onto the pavement.





They sell Mek at lowes, Home Depot, walmart. It's just as dangerous as gasoline. I mean we arnt drinking it.



I got time to listen! I am all about using something that works and is somewhat more affordable...A bottle of trackbite here is $60 plus taxes

I used straight cherry cola years ago....it helped somewhat, but my car was a lot slower back then.

I was not aware what Mek was, I just hear a lot of people saying to stay away from it as it is "harsh stuff". Do they label and sell it under that name also? Was at home depot today, saw Acetone, but no Mek.
Posted By: 68dodge

Re: 904/727 burnout on the street - 08/28/14 03:03 PM

Here a good burnout I did not to long ago, just 1st to second gear.
http://youtu.be/3Ql-c0qpFks
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