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Bf f drag radials

Posted By: Moparnut426

Bf f drag radials - 11/29/13 05:34 AM

Still on back order and summit and jegs both don't give a ship date. What's up guys? Needing 275-60-15s
Posted By: larry890

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/29/13 05:37 AM

Why would u buy bfg's anyway go with Hoosiers or m/t. You won't regret it.
Posted By: Moparnut426

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/29/13 05:39 AM

The mts suck, so I'm trying bfs or nittos and both are out
Posted By: Quicksilver440

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/29/13 07:02 AM

If you think MT's suck at the track... bfg's and nittos are even worse. Bfgs and nittos are better than a standard street tied. Nittos are usually considered better than the bfgs.both are better for actually driving around on than the MT's.
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/29/13 02:23 PM

Do your self a favor and cancel the order. You will not like BFG's if you didn't like the Mickey Thompson. They don't perform near as well.
The Mickeys perform better on the street and track.
I've run both. The BFG's first. They didn't hook. Pulled them off and went to Mickey's and never considered another drag radial since the Mickeys work so well.
With the BFG's on the street I couldn't open the throttle until 100 mph. With the MT I can open it up at about 60 mph and hook up.
Night and day.
Posted By: Bad340fish

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/29/13 02:52 PM

I remember correctly your car is a stick, a drag radial is not the best option for you. Your going to want something Bias ply if you want to get it to hook up. The BFG is far from the popular choice for drag racing. I am surprised they still produce it as I rarely if ever see any on any cars around here but the dragstrip isn't the place to look for them.
Posted By: mopar dave

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/29/13 03:39 PM

that is correct. BFG drag radial will last longer but hook the least out off the drag radials. i'v had BFG, m/t, hoosier. the hoosier drag radials hook the best but don't last as long as the others. I think with a stick you would want a hoosier QTP. they hook better than a drag radial and have a lot of rubber on them to last a good while. I cound not even get to hoosier drag radial to hook every time using a 5500 stall. you wont be buying tires every year if ya go with the QTP. try Mccormic racing tires out of Detroit. they stock a lot and will give you the best price.
Posted By: 1967dartgt

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/29/13 03:46 PM

Get the MT pro best hooking tire I have ever had on my car.
Posted By: Moparnut426

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/29/13 07:28 PM

Yes this is a stick car, I'm planning a Dana swap with cal tracs. I will not go backwards 30 years and run a bias tire. My car rarely sees the track. I want life, handleing, and hook. I play a lot, tire smoke, etc. so I know the Mickie's melt on the street.
Posted By: skrews

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/29/13 07:58 PM

The old saying " have your cake and eat it too " comes to mind. Any tire that hooks won't last on the street. As others said if you don't like the MTs you'll hate the BFGs.
Posted By: 68LAR

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/29/13 08:09 PM

My .
From personal experiences, over the years, I've found out that my car will not hook on the street, with or without radials. I have been running, for the past 10 years or so, a 345/55r15 BFG drag radial on the street, but for no other reason than cosmetics.(this tire is no longer made, so I don't know which way I'll go next year when it's time to replace them)?. The big tire just looks good under the car. At the track, I run a bias ply Hoosier slick, 29 12X15.
I'll say one thing for sure. You WILL NOT get a stick car, that's making any kind of power, to hook with a radial tire. Again, my
Posted By: BobR

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/29/13 08:58 PM

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The mts suck, so I'm trying bfs or nittos and both are out




There is at least one guy running 6.50's/232 on M/T drag radials(Roger Holder). If they suck it may be because you don't know how to tune your chassis for them.
Posted By: mopar dave

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/29/13 09:57 PM

none of the radials I tried hooked on the street. the hoosier radials worked best at the track. the QTP handle just as good as any drag radial i'v tried. I chased my tail for 7+ years with the radials and finally made some improvements in ET this year with the QTP. the QTP has a lot more rubber on it than the radials do and I run them without tubes.
Posted By: Twostick

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/29/13 10:04 PM

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Yes this is a stick car, I'm planning a Dana swap with cal tracs. I will not go backwards 30 years and run a bias tire. My car rarely sees the track. I want life, handleing, and hook. I play a lot, tire smoke, etc. so I know the Mickie's melt on the street.




That will require a minimum of 2 sets of tires. Drag radials are designed to go straight and hook and not necessarily on the street unless the pavement is very clean. Corners and tread life aren't happening as far as hi-performance is concerned.

I have Cooper Cobras on my New Yorker in 275/60/15 with a 493 and compared to the BFG's I tried first they are real sticky. The twist in my axle splines leads me to believe they are doing a good job too.

The BFG's on the other hand would instantly go up in smoke, shift into second and finally hook at about 60 MPH. It will spin the Coopers but it won't blow them off with 3.23's. The car drives like you would expect any normal car to drive as far as stopping and cornering go.

If you rarely see the track I wouldn't waste my time or money on DOT type slicks.

Kevin
Posted By: Moparnut426

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/29/13 10:50 PM

I guess one person here hit the nail on the head, maybe I'm after more the look of a drag radial then, I know I'm asking a lot , but I honestly plan on useing a set of QTP by Hoosier on a set of steelies. So I might as well just order up another set of the M/T since they at least are on hand. I was also thinking of going a touch wider since I'll basically be cutting my 60 to fit the car.
Posted By: 1967dartgt

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/30/13 01:03 AM

Trust me I have fought radials on my car for years, had Hoosier slicks and QTP and mickey et street bias. The new mickey Thompson pro is light years ahead. I just went faster 60ft on motor then I have ever gone on spray with the pro's. They even work on the street way better then my Hoosiers.
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/30/13 01:47 AM

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Trust me I have fought radials on my car for years, had Hoosier slicks and QTP and mickey et street bias. The new mickey Thompson pro is light years ahead. I just went faster 60ft on motor then I have ever gone on spray with the pro's. They even work on the street way better then my Hoosiers.




I hope they make them in other sizes in the future. I need 325x50x15's. That should be the second or third most common size for a drag radial. I only ran the BFG's at the track one time and took them off. I think my best 60ft was 1.60. Switched to Mickey's and could tell I had something to work with. I got them down to low 1.40's and now since I switched to double adjustable shocks expect to get them in the 1.30's.
I've spent a lot of time and money figuring out what works if I can save somebody the headaches I went through I will try. BFG's might work on a slower car. High 12's or slower but if you are making any kind of power don't waste your money.
Posted By: Bad340fish

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/30/13 12:28 PM

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Yes this is a stick car, I'm planning a Dana swap with cal tracs. I will not go backwards 30 years and run a bias tire. My car rarely sees the track. I want life, handleing, and hook. I play a lot, tire smoke, etc. so I know the Mickie's melt on the street.




My car makes about 475-500hp. My MT radials will hold it on the street pretty easy. I can't spin them from a roll unless the road is very dirty. It was 26degrees when I drove it the other day, hammered it from a 15mph roll and it hooked. From a dead stop I have to drive it a little but I can have it glued and wide open in about 30ft. My car has been a best of 11.18 I bet i could run 11.40s on most city streets lol. It's almost a boring tire on my combo!

I had nitto 275/50/15s on my old 12.30 mustang driver. I seriously had better luck with the regular bfg radial TA over the nitto drag radial, that's a show car tire.
Posted By: sshemi

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/30/13 03:15 PM

Do NOT forget that sticks and autos are two different animals!
Posted By: 1967dartgt

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/30/13 03:17 PM

I have heard they are going to make them in the 315/60/15 size for the outlaw drag radial guys, but doubt they will make more sizes.
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/30/13 04:01 PM

I might have to try them.
Posted By: rck850

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/30/13 04:16 PM

I know I'm in the minority here but I've had decent luck with the BFG's. I put 275/60-15's on my 440 Duster in 2004 and at the time it was a low 12 second car. The Duster just had super stock springs a Dana with 3.73 gears and no snubber. 727 with manual valve body and 2500-2800 converter. I could foot break it at the track and come out at 2000 and it just went. I don't think it spun at all. If i was careful and like above the road was clean I could get the same hook but otherwise they would spin.

Last summer after eight years the cords were finally showing! I had driven this thing to Columbus for the Nats three times on those tires and raced a total of three times at the track probably 12 passes total not much. I always ran between 18 and 22 lbs of air except driving to the nats when I put max air to support the weight in the trunk. I bought the exact same tire last summer because of how long they lasted and how well they did.

Unfortunatlly this summer I upgraded the motor and I have no idea how they are going to perform at the track. The car is an animal now compared to what it was. If I needed new tires again though after these upgrades I would be looking at the M/T radials or a Bias cheeter slick like the ET Streets.

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Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/30/13 05:40 PM

I don't know if the OP mentioned how fast his car was but like I said the BFG's will work on a slower car. They are better than regular street radials. But don't expect to hook a 9 second car on BFG Drag radials. The Mickey Thompsons are a different story. Guys are flying on these street legal tires.
Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/30/13 05:49 PM

I'm running the new MT Radial Pros, I'm having issues w/ hooking up but that might not be the tires fault. I had QTP's, MT et's (the real deal) and the pro's. I can't seem to get below a 1.60 60 foot. If I flash the convert instead of loading it up it blows the Pro's up. I'll let you know how they work after the cal-tracs.
Posted By: mickm

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/30/13 06:33 PM

from the mickey thompson web site:

All Mickey Thompson ET Street Radial Pro tires are designed for drag racing use only. NOT FOR STREET USE.

huh?
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/30/13 07:39 PM

A couple weeks ago I went racing with my friend. He has been running the same 78 Z28 Camaro for 25 years.
It's a drag car and he has always run slicks. The car is a 10.80 car.
He bought a set of MT ET street radials 275x60x15's.
He installed them and went racing. His first pass was a 10.75 et @ 126 mph. He pulled the tires much higher than ever before. About 2 ft in the air. On the second pass the 12 bolt Chevy rear left loose about 30ft out.
He's now planning on installing a dana 60 but loves the Mickey Thompson Drag radials.The first and only pass on them was his quickest and fastest pass in 25 years with just a tire change.
I've heard the Pro's are a big improvement over the regular ET Street Radials.
Posted By: DodgeCharger

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/30/13 07:43 PM

I don't run the Pro's but I know my MT Drag radials like a long smokey burnout. The Caltracs should make a big improvement. Also I run lower tire pressure than many claim that works for them.
I run anywhere from 12 1/2 to 15 lbs. Do you run double adjustable rear shocks. That was the key to really get my 60fts down. The Ranchos are junk with drag radials.
Posted By: 1967dartgt

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/30/13 08:29 PM

Quote:

from the mickey thompson web site:

All Mickey Thompson ET Street Radial Pro tires are designed for drag racing use only. NOT FOR STREET USE.

huh?




So do the Hoosier QTP and Mickey ET street bias tires, not for highway use.
Posted By: 1967dartgt

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/30/13 08:36 PM

I have run the pros on the street and see no ill affects. I will tell you I will not race on another tire...... But radials like a different rear set up then slicks, so you can't throw them on with no changes and expect them to work.
Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/30/13 08:44 PM

the MT Pro's are DOT but not for "street use" Kind of a goofy statement, they were designed for the 275 and 10.5 class. I drove them 52 miles raced and drove home w/o issues. My main track is/was 22 miles away no issues. I have them at 28-30 when driving and drop them to 17-18 for racing. It's not good to go to low w/ a radial, they will "cup"
Posted By: 1967dartgt

Re: Bf f drag radials - 11/30/13 08:56 PM

Yes 17 psi seems to the magic number. I run it, my buddy with his ultra street car runs it. Dean Marrinis and his x275 car and Ron Rhoads with his record setting x275 car runs 17 psi. Ron has been 1.05 on radials and caltracs.
Posted By: maximum entropy

Re: Bf f drag radials - 12/03/13 09:30 PM

don't be afraid to try the bfg's. i did, and they worked great. the sidewalls died before the tread. they hooked every bit as good as the et streets on my car. mid ten second a body. automatic, though.
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