MMW Indy 2013 updates

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We made here but so did the rain. Haven't even gotten to make a pass yet because of rain.

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Glad top hear you guys made it there, along with the
others... bummer you have rain

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First rd of gambler race I had a clear 11.07 in 2 places on car on correct side,water box guy even steps over to look at it,I couldn't,t see the dail on the score board but it was 7.07.i couldn't figure why thr other guy dialed 10.49 left first until he told me what happened.argh!

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Interesting...wait and see where our other $75 goes.i scratched indy off the map when I got back to Oklahoma,two years of rain=no more for me.

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..... I'm not worried about the Saturday race money,Josh always takes care of things well.
And no,I wouldn't feel different if I hadn't won money......

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I was there 2 years ago when the rain hit after the first round, he took care the racers then too.

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Sam it was good to meet you, did you come back to the track Sunday or head home?

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If 20 bucks makes the difference between me racing or not, I need to find a different hobby.

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I'am glad some people see the point I'am trying to make.Don't think in anyway I'am dismissing anyone's concerns about what they get for their money and hope they will be treated fairly buy the event promoter.Keep in mind that there were other things that you got for your entry fee beside the race.
Car show
Swap meet
Slippery Noodle
Free lunch
Manufactures
Free car and trailer washes(rain)
We even got to race(a little)
The event host and crew were quite gracious under the circumstances and gave it an honest effort.My only disappointment was the calling of the race Sat to early as the late afternoon and evening turned out to be suitable for racing.I completely understand why since the forecast was for heavy rain.I want to be a weatherman in my next life and job.Where else can you be totally wrong and still get a paycheck.Meteorologist my AZZ

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Right on Bob

And yes the race was called to early. Even though it looked bad the decision should not have been made until the last possible chance of it clearing up and getting the track ready for racing. If it would take 2 hours to dry the track then the decision should have been made later in the day and still leave time to finish the race. Maybe a good guess would have been by 5:00pm and if possible dry the track and be racing by 7:00pm and could be finished by midnight I just suggest that there should be a time allotment made for each track depending on dry up time required and time left to finish the race.

See ya all at Norwalk


Russ

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Regardless of what Josh decides to do, I will be at Norwalk in Sept,,even if they have to wheel me in in a wheelborrow.

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That would be Chad's job




Russ

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Regardless of what Josh decides to do, I will be at Norwalk in Sept,,even if they have to wheel me in in a wheelborrow.

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That would be Chad's job

We will be there to support the event.We know it's Josh's call but like at other venues when the situation came up,the promoter or track mananger would call a meeting of representatives from each respective class designated by the racers and get imput on either to call the race or not.Then everyone would know what action was taken and no one could beitch.At that time a clarification of rain checks or reschudle or what ever can be decided and understood by all.
We had a similar issue at a track that many traveled long distances to attend.The track owner called the race early afternoon,a group of us met with him and explaned that we were willing to wait it out.After a few long hours of entertaining ourselves with golfcart races,bench racing,story telling and gathering for cook outs the weather cleared,the track dried and we resumed racing long into the night.The track made money(no rain checks) and food shacks ran out of food supplies.No racer or spectator left and inspite of the weather we all had a great time.Did I mention the "mud wrestling and wet teeshirt contest"? A pig won the mud wrestling and HemiFred lost the cart race to me and Ron McCelland but Fred did win the wet teeshirt contest beating out Chris Baum AKA Superstockracer

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Well,for what it's worth the entry fee was only a small cost as compared to the total cost of the entire trip.Josh usually steps up for the racers and I don't think he will be any different this year.We consider any unused entry or entry in general to be our donation to the sport and hope it keeps Josh from going under.We will write our donation off just like we do for the Humane Society,Cancer Society and other worthy causes.We have lost too many events and we know that the dollars spent by a lot of racers is hard earned and understand that expenses wasted on rainouts may be the difference as to weather they can afford the next event.To look at it in a logical sence,it was money that was going to be spent for a given weekend and the possibility of recovering any through winning is a long shot.Though the event was plegued with rain we made the best of it.We got parts from venders,seen some nice show cars,found parts at the swap meet,raced a little and got to see our friends.We can't put a price on the seeing our friends part of the weekend.Josh we are not wanting any refund,you can use our's to help others or consider it our part of helping your next event.
Respectfully
Bob.

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I for one would just like an answer.
Doug

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And yes the race was called to early. Even though it looked bad the decision should not have been made until the last possible chance of it clearing up and getting the track ready for racing. If it would take 2 hours to dry the track then the decision should have been made later in the day and still leave time to finish the race. Maybe a good guess would have been by 5:00pm and if possible dry the track and be racing by 7:00pm and could be finished by midnight I just suggest that there should be a time allotment made for each track depending on dry up time required and time left to finish the race.

See ya all at Norwalk


Russ

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And yes the race was called to early. Even though it looked bad the decision should not have been made until the last possible chance of it clearing up and getting the track ready for racing. If it would take 2 hours to dry the track then the decision should have been made later in the day and still leave time to finish the race. Maybe a good guess would have been by 5:00pm and if possible dry the track and be racing by 7:00pm and could be finished by midnight I just suggest that there should be a time allotment made for each track depending on dry up time required and time left to finish the race.

See ya all at Norwalk


Russ

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Let's just clear this up now. Saturday morning the track crew was having a very difficult time getting the top end of the track dry because water kept pushing up through it. They wanted me to make Saturday an 1/8 mile race which I was not willing to do.

Then it started raining for real, and it was still raining at 3pm. With the heavy cloud cover, cool temps, and no wind, it was going to take 3 hours to have the track ready. At that point we could not have gotten the race done by the midnight curfew. Cancelling the Saturday race sucks for us too, but it was the right call.

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1/8 mile would have been better than sitting for hours in our trailers.Who are "they" and did you make this decision on your own?
For what ever it's worth it doesn't matter since this race is in the history books and nothing will change.Someone needs to clarify what is being done for the racers that want to know if they have anything due them.A simple answer like here's what we will do or no we are not doing anything.Like I said,no answer sends the wrong message.We openly stated our take on the situation but we don't speak for those who still have questions and want an answer.To be respectful "They" should respond,sooner than later would be best.To drag it out is only pissing some people off.We are all big boys and can handle the answer(good or bad) so we can move on.

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Well,for what it's worth the entry fee was only a small cost as compared to the total cost of the entire trip.Josh usually steps up for the racers and I don't think he will be any different this year.We consider any unused entry or entry in general to be our donation to the sport and hope it keeps Josh from going under.We will write our donation off just like we do for the Humane Society,Cancer Society and other worthy causes.We have lost too many events and we know that the dollars spent by a lot of racers is hard earned and understand that expenses wasted on rainouts may be the difference as to weather they can afford the next event.To look at it in a logical sence,it was money that was going to be spent for a given weekend and the possibility of recovering any through winning is a long shot.Though the event was plegued with rain we made the best of it.We got parts from venders,seen some nice show cars,found parts at the swap meet,raced a little and got to see our friends.We can't put a price on the seeing our friends part of the weekend.Josh we are not wanting any refund,you can use our's to help others or consider it our part of helping your next event.
Respectfully
Bob.

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Every time BG posts something like this, I gain even more respect for him. BG for president! And I thought he was just a dump/selfish racer. (JUST KIDDING)

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And yes the race was called to early. Even though it looked bad the decision should not have been made until the last possible chance of it clearing up and getting the track ready for racing. If it would take 2 hours to dry the track then the decision should have been made later in the day and still leave time to finish the race. Maybe a good guess would have been by 5:00pm and if possible dry the track and be racing by 7:00pm and could be finished by midnight I just suggest that there should be a time allotment made for each track depending on dry up time required and time left to finish the race.

See ya all at Norwalk


Russ

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Let's just clear this up now. Saturday morning the track crew was having a very difficult time getting the top end of the track dry because water kept pushing up through it. They wanted me to make Saturday an 1/8 mile race which I was not willing to do.

Then it started raining for real, and it was still raining at 3pm. With the heavy cloud cover, cool temps, and no wind, it was going to take 3 hours to have the track ready. At that point we could not have gotten the race done by the midnight curfew. Cancelling the Saturday race sucks for us too, but it was the right call.

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They wanted me to make Saturday an 1/8 mile race which I was not willing to do.
I think you guys better have a sit-down before the next race and ask "THE RACERS" would you rather race 1/8 mile or not race at all. I think someone made a VERY bad choice. Get one round of racing in and the race is a race.

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These posts get way too far out of hand. It hasn't been all that long since the event took place. There have been many events in the past that took a long time to get paid.
I am personally amazed that anyone puts on events anymore the way people cry about them. Josh has a full time job,a family and a personal life, I think a couple weeks of not knowing isn't a big deal. After all,the stress he deals with putting on these events and dealing with the weather issues he deserves a vacation away from dealing with it.
Just my opinion ,I hope he continues the events in spite of the crying.
Keith

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I'm with you Keith, I am sure having weather issues at the same event two years in a row will work on one's nerves.

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I can't believe some of the moronic comments on this thread. This isn't about $75, there were 250-300 cars at this event. So do the math, it more like $20,000 to $25,000.

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I was told my calculator is broken!!
250x150 = 37.5 (I do not think that paid rental on the track??)
Sundays race all in the books except for the finalist.Sunday wont count on a rain out.
so all there is is Sat! - 7 classes at 1/2 entry (1/2 of 150 is 75) bucks! so 75 x 250 (your numbers) 18,750.
One has to hope that the spectators/show cars/ swap meet /vendors make up all that is needed here ,
It is a lot of Math, But if the $75 dollars stops you from racin at other events like this then you arein trouble and the $75 can not help you!
But the Powers that be needs to step up, say what he will do for those racers,

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now calculate multiple entrys and the lack lack of response from the god that put this on,no more for me thank you very much. i'll just stay in Oklahoma.

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I can't believe some of the moronic comments on this thread. This isn't about $75, there were 250-300 cars at this event. So do the math, it more like $20,000 to $25,000.

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I was told my calculator is broken!!
250x150 = 37.5 (I do not think that paid rental on the track??)
Sundays race all in the books except for the finalist.Sunday wont count on a rain out.
so all there is is Sat! - 7 classes at 1/2 entry (1/2 of 150 is 75) bucks! so 75 x 250 (your numbers) 18,750.
One has to hope that the spectators/show cars/ swap meet /vendors make up all that is needed here ,
It is a lot of Math, But if the $75 dollars stops you from racin at other events like this then you arein trouble and the $75 can not help you!
But the Powers that be needs to step up, say what he will do for those racers,

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now calculate multiple entrys and the lack lack of response from the god that put this on,no more for me thank you very much. i'll just stay in Oklahoma.

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Still not hard!
looks like he has the answer!! Looks like you will keep your entries for the Sat race!!