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IMHO - Alcohol funny cars do not attract crowds and thus match racing for a show will not be very lucrative. Fans like nitro. If your buddy is looking to race an NE or AF/C class - then I would say great, but if he is trying to make money match racing - nitro is the way to go - and that is probably a money losing proposition.
100%... I worked with a funny car team here
Quote:NOPE....I was considering jumping into NitroNFC....my boy is almost 15 now and would be the driver.....the cost is staggering.....what you "THINK" it will cost....TRIPLE it.... with middle of the road equipment your looking at 275,000.00 just to roll through the gate the first time not including the tow rig.....1500.00 to 2000.00 a weekend for fuel....parts if nothing big happens...1300.00(clutch parts mainly)...tires 800.00 ....entry fees and travel too add up fast....8-10 crew guys at 75.00 ea ...food etc....We are gonna run NE I to start...7.60 index...then see where it takes us...
GOOD basic info guyz ..... I am thinking that he does not expect to be the DSR of N/FC .... but he surely does not want it to be a huge loser either. Maybe have some grins and break-even. No ?
Quote:Quote:NOPE....I was considering jumping into NitroNFC....my boy is almost 15 now and would be the driver.....the cost is staggering.....what you "THINK" it will cost....TRIPLE it.... with middle of the road equipment your looking at 275,000.00 just to roll through the gate the first time not including the tow rig.....1500.00 to 2000.00 a weekend for fuel....parts if nothing big happens...1300.00(clutch parts mainly)...tires 800.00 ....entry fees and travel too add up fast....8-10 crew guys at 75.00 ea ...food etc....We are gonna run NE I to start...7.60 index...then see where it takes us...
GOOD basic info guyz ..... I am thinking that he does not expect to be the DSR of N/FC .... but he surely does not want it to be a huge loser either. Maybe have some grins and break-even. No ?
Quote:Yes....Alky is A LOT cheaper...but ZERO promoters will book an Alky car...... So if Doc's buddy wants match races and bookings...it's CH3NO2 or nothing.... Nitro puts them in the stands...thats why we'll run an Alky FC in NE I to start.....loads of fun for little $$$$....still gonna be close to 50K to get it going....Quote:Quote:NOPE....I was considering jumping into NitroNFC....my boy is almost 15 now and would be the driver.....the cost is staggering.....what you "THINK" it will cost....TRIPLE it.... with middle of the road equipment your looking at 275,000.00 just to roll through the gate the first time not including the tow rig.....1500.00 to 2000.00 a weekend for fuel....parts if nothing big happens...1300.00(clutch parts mainly)...tires 800.00 ....entry fees and travel too add up fast....8-10 crew guys at 75.00 ea ...food etc....We are gonna run NE I to start...7.60 index...then see where it takes us...
GOOD basic info guyz ..... I am thinking that he does not expect to be the DSR of N/FC .... but he surely does not want it to be a huge loser either. Maybe have some grins and break-even. No ?
Thats a nitro F/C... alcy was MUCH cheaper... but
still a looser when it comes to money.... even with
the 4 of us guys working or free(yes he payed the
entry and food... which his wife normally made)...
it was still a FUN time and also I learned a ton
Quote:PERCEPTION......NITRO cars are much louder.....header flames at night....Nitro takes their breath away in the pits during warm ups.....
THX guys ... after he reads this ...I think he will ZAP this idea. .... But I am curious .... WHY is an alky car so dissed by track-owners? .. they have lots of noise with some times way wilder burn-outs ....THAT is what puts certain people in the stands.
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Hey Doc, we have a popular AA/FA circus in north Texas, and some of the runners have combos that use just enough nitro to put cackle in the motor and fire in the pipes. The shows are always packed.
Quote:Even hitting big bucks deep pockets payout races and my son winning over 8k last year ....we went in the hole 15K.....and thats a JUNIOR DRAGSTER.....we raced in Calif...Nevada...Texas...and Colorado. You don't race to make money....or cover expenses.
So guys ... is it just all about the "glory" of running these cars .... is there any light at the end of the tunnel on at least covering expenses ?
I hope to be putting together a fast-bracket open-wheel, left hand steer car ... and if I could not MAKE MONEY with it ...I would not do it.
Now do I expect to make-money .... like if I were to put the same time-effort into it like in my biz-exploits ? ... of course not.
Quote:We ran 22 race weekends last year...the 8k was money from 11 of those... Why did I do it?....I'm a drag racer...he's a drag racer....and we spent lots of family time together doing it. This year we are chasing points at 3 different tracks....chasing NHRA Div7 points...and will be hitting races in Texas...Colorado...South Dakota and Memphis. I'd be willing to bet not many on this site "make" anything racing....especially traveling and racing...We've towed 11 hours to Las Vegas just for a trophy class. These are our family vacations......it's all in priorities.
8k$ in a Jr/D ? .... how many races was that? Losing that kind of money ? .... why did you do it then ? ...why not just race dirt bikes for grins on a local basis?
Me ? .... I raced at local tracks up in MI(with a 13-flat drive-out car in the slower bracket) ... from the late 70's to the early 90's .... and I always MADE MONEY ... but not like if I had put the time and effort into my fiberglass biz.
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Wait a minute ... I got dibs on Cm ... maybe he will sponsor my roadster !
Quote:Brad....you've seen pics of my humble abode...my basic plain kitchen..and my meager exsistance...my old broke down crappy vehicles.. You sure you want any part of this?...Quote:
Wait a minute ... I got dibs on Cm ... maybe he will sponsor my roadster !
No, I'm closer and him and I already have (long, cool, crazy story with a sad ending to be told another day) a doggy connection.
Quote:Quote:Brad....you've seen pics of my humble abode...my basic plain kitchen..and my meager exsistance...my old broke down crappy vehicles.. You sure you want any part of this?...Quote:
Wait a minute ... I got dibs on Cm ... maybe he will sponsor my roadster !
No, I'm closer and him and I already have (long, cool, crazy story with a sad ending to be told another day) a doggy connection.
RIP Nitro.....best dog I've ever owned......I'd never trade those 11 months for anything.
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'glass man, show up to any drag race and you can count the number of racers that broke even or made money on one hand. I'd guess most times the answer is none.
They are the ones that run a cheap car that doesn't consume much besides gas, and they won without buy-backs and live a short distance away.
Stepping up, traveling further or going out before the final pretty much means you are bleeding money. Some a LOT faster than others.
Quote:NHRA also run PRO 7.0 in the Heritage series....
If you want to run fast with a nostalgia style car, think about IHRA's 7.00 Pro. Index racing, no electronics except a tranny brake, shifting by driver control, not rpm or time. Little bit of everything in the class, and some good racers having fun at 180 mph.
Quote:Quote:NHRA also run PRO 7.0 in the Heritage series....
If you want to run fast with a nostalgia style car, think about IHRA's 7.00 Pro. Index racing, no electronics except a tranny brake, shifting by driver control, not rpm or time. Little bit of everything in the class, and some good racers having fun at 180 mph.