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Quickest SBM's on Moparts running SDSS Stage 2 Eddies?

Posted By: Streetwize

Quickest SBM's on Moparts running SDSS Stage 2 Eddies? - 10/23/12 02:29 PM

Trying to decide whether to sell my great set of SDSS Stage 2 Edelbrocks, upgrade them or just save them for another project. I think there are more a few guys in the 10's with these heads, so who'se out there are what did you run? I know Flyfish is in the high 10's with his awesome second gen Cuda notch, but I think there are several others as well.

I'm looking to build a high torque 318 or 360 based tow motor to put in either a LWB dakota or maybe an older B body sedan that I could reuse these heads on but they're kind of overkill for that.



Thanks!
Posted By: 1967dartgt

Re: Quickest SBM's on Moparts running SDSS Stage 2 Eddies? - 10/23/12 05:45 PM

10.60 on motor 9.60 on .073 nitrous jet. 340 block, 3.65 crank, eddies, pump gas.
Posted By: Streetwize

Re: Quickest SBM's on Moparts running SDSS Stage 2 Eddies? - 10/23/12 07:50 PM

That's impressive power, how high do you spin it and what cam/compression is that?
Posted By: ChrgrCuda

Re: Quickest SBM's on Moparts running SDSS Stage 2 Eddies? - 10/23/12 08:42 PM

10.86 @122 in my 68 notch. Full interior and all motor.
Posted By: 1967dartgt

Re: Quickest SBM's on Moparts running SDSS Stage 2 Eddies? - 10/24/12 01:15 AM

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That's impressive power, how high do you spin it and what cam/compression is that?




I would shift at 6800, old crowler solid roller 604 out of the catalog, and it was 11.5. Pump gas on the street and track and mix some 112 on the spray to be safe. Miss that motor took it apart to go to a 4in crank, sold heads and went with batten w2 then 360-1 heads.
Posted By: 1967dartgt

Re: Quickest SBM's on Moparts running SDSS Stage 2 Eddies? - 10/24/12 01:17 AM

That was also with a full interior, factory buckets and 3450 raceweight.
Posted By: Adobedude

Re: Quickest SBM's on Moparts running SDSS Stage 2 Eddies? - 10/24/12 01:26 AM

Quickest SBM or tow motor?
Posted By: Streetwize

Re: Quickest SBM's on Moparts running SDSS Stage 2 Eddies? - 10/24/12 02:12 AM

Lol, i tend to reuse my stuff for a variety of purposes. My 414 has Mahle pistons which are great but they don't have very deep valve pockets. So I'm looking to upgrade the heads with a bigger/better flowing port window and keep the cam I have., so I either need to sell these or reuse them on something else.

These heads are great but (short of changing pistons) I really don't think I can wring them out to their maximum potential. Way Too good to sit on the shelf.
Posted By: Streetwize

Re: Quickest SBM's on Moparts running SDSS Stage 2 Eddies? - 10/24/12 03:20 PM

I checked with Mahle Tech and it turns out the Valve pockets on their standard 4.00" stroke pistons are .250" deep and cut at 2.17" valve relief which means they can take both a bigger valve and a higher lift cam than I originally thought they did. That's good news in that they'll swallow AT LEAST a 2.08" intake valve without issue.

Maybe I'll tweak the heads some more, but being these SDSS stage 2's are good for 550+ as they are they might be better to leave them as is and find another more suitable app....like another 7800 RPM 340

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Posted By: B3422W5

Re: Quickest SBM's on Moparts running SDSS Stage 2 Eddies? - 10/24/12 03:48 PM

My old Duster with Hensley stage 2 eddies( peaked at 274) ran 10.70's at 3400 pounds with a flat tappet. 416 motor.
Full interior,all steel, bench seat, 300 pound driver, yada, yada. Small tube headers, weiand excellerator, 727 trans, super stock leafs.
Made 70 mile round trip jaunts to the track in this configuration.
Posted By: gch

Re: Quickest SBM's on Moparts running SDSS Stage 2 Eddies? - 10/24/12 04:38 PM

You will regret selling them.
Posted By: 416challenger

Re: Quickest SBM's on Moparts running SDSS Stage 2 Eddies? - 10/24/12 06:10 PM

I'm certainly not the fastest, but with SDSS Eddies and 418 cid and pump 93 octane. My challenger went 10.87 at 121 mph at 3720 with driver.
Posted By: DragDart360

Re: Quickest SBM's on Moparts running SDSS Stage 2 Eddies? - 10/25/12 12:48 AM

9.997@132 2835 lbs on the line. 70 Dart Swinger
Posted By: one bad fish

Re: Quickest SBM's on Moparts running SDSS Stage 2 Eddies? - 10/25/12 12:54 AM

I would say but then I got to kill yah. Lol
Posted By: Streetwize

Re: Quickest SBM's on Moparts running SDSS Stage 2 Eddies? - 10/25/12 01:17 PM

DragDart...is that all motor?

High 9's @ 132....That's really impressive MPH for that weight
Posted By: TheOtherDodge

Re: Quickest SBM's on Moparts running SDSS Stage 2 Eddies? - 10/25/12 06:10 PM

Wize, they are a pretty decent pair of heads for the price and using stock rockers, etc. My Eddy's are home ported and are more than enough for me..
Posted By: Streetwize

Re: Quickest SBM's on Moparts running SDSS Stage 2 Eddies? - 10/25/12 07:39 PM

I LOVE the pair I have, and in the Rocky I've only scratched the surface of the mid-high 10 potential of them for this car.

Where I am at right now is I want to transition to an E85 carb and I'd really like to swap to a head with more port volume to compansate for the lower A/F ratio ( more fuel displaces more of the available port left for the air to get in). I have another set of heads on the way to play with and with my limited time to play I'm debating what's best to do with them....namely, keep them as is for another project, upgrade them (like Brian did on his Car Craft 414).... or let somebody else enjoy them.
Posted By: DragDart360

Re: Quickest SBM's on Moparts running SDSS Stage 2 Eddies? - 10/26/12 02:07 AM

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DragDart...is that all motor?

High 9's @ 132....That's really impressive MPH for that weight




All motor, Ryan did a great job on the heads and cam selection
Posted By: onebaddakota

Re: Quickest SBM's on Moparts running SDSS Stage 2 Eddies? - 10/26/12 03:01 AM

My 410 Dr J ported eddy heads went 10.56@125.4 with a 3450lb race weight. It's a 11.8 compression motor on E85. It dynoed 581HP with the factory hyd roller set up.
Posted By: D-50

Re: Quickest SBM's on Moparts running SDSS Stage 2 Eddies? - 10/26/12 04:12 AM

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DragDart that is very impressive. What are your 60 ft. and 1/8 mile times? Thanks..... Sorry for the hijack..

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Posted By: Hunted Duck

Re: Quickest SBM's on Moparts running SDSS Stage 2 Eddies? - 10/26/12 06:49 PM

Mine has been 10.09 at 132 in my 3100-3200 pound Dart. I am going to put these heads on a 340 with a hyd cam to run 12.00 so I can run sportstman and Pro.
Posted By: Streetwize

Re: Quickest SBM's on Moparts running SDSS Stage 2 Eddies? - 10/27/12 02:26 PM

Ryan told me the Stage 2's work on Velocity, not volume. He also said he ports where the motor picks up, in some cases regardless of what the flow bench says. I think this is why some of the perofmance numbers are so impressive considering the 28" flow bench numbers (~280CFM @ .600) can seem not that impressive.

When you consider that any given intake valve is closed nearly ~2/3'ds of the time in a running motor (regardless of RPM) it's interesting to think to meter EX 270CFM of bench flow at WOT the motor is intermitantly metering only roughly 90 (one third) CFM through any port....over roughly 20 seconds since the valve is shut for the other 40.

Take the @.050 degrees of duration divided by 720 and multiply that amount by 60, that's the number of seconds in a minute the valve is (at some stage of) open.....and this is a mathematic constant i.e., regardless of engine RPM. Now divide those seconds by whatever RPM and that's how fast each intake (or exhaust) cycle is. It's pretty amazing a column of air can get in there at all and it gives you some sense of why Intake tuning is so critical for the RPM
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