BeadLocks

Posted By: sccuda

BeadLocks - 10/11/12 11:27 PM

Question about Beadlocks. I have a 2785lb Door car ( Cuda) 4 Link Front Strut Car, I Run the Goodyear D1984 32x14x15 Tire on a set of Convo Pro's the Problem is after 50-60 passes the reaction times start to drop off, Pro tree will go .00 all day long till it gets 50-60 passes then cannot get better than a .037 light, full tree same story have to change my delay box to compensate. car runs mid to high 8.40's 155-161mph, The question is will Beadlocks help the side wall last longer so I can get more runs on the tires, The contact part of the tire still has alot of life in it still.
Next question How many passes should I be getting on these tires. I do conservative Burn outs I have been replacing at about a 100-120 passes or so. Thanks for your input

Posted By: BobR

Re: BeadLocks - 10/12/12 12:49 AM

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Question about Beadlocks. I have a 2785lb Door car ( Cuda) 4 Link Front Strut Car, I Run the Goodyear D1984 32x14x15 Tire on a set of Convo Pro's the Problem is after 50-60 passes the reaction times start to drop off, Pro tree will go .00 all day long till it gets 50-60 passes then cannot get better than a .037 light, full tree same story have to change my delay box to compensate. car runs mid to high 8.40's 155-161mph, The question is will Beadlocks help the side wall last longer so I can get more runs on the tires, The contact part of the tire still has alot of life in it still.
Next question How many passes should I be getting on these tires. I do conservative Burn outs I have been replacing at about a 100-120 passes or so. Thanks for your input

The purpose of beadlocks is to keep the tire on the rim. In high speed/high horsepower cars they are preferable to screws in that regard. I doubt very much if they will extend your usable tire life. BTW we get about 15 runs on ours' before the sidewall is shot.

Posted By: sccuda

Re: BeadLocks - 10/12/12 01:14 AM

Thanks for the reply
It just seems to be killing the sidewall and just looking to get more life out of them the 60 foots are 1.118 -1.120. With new tires and more timing I believe it will go 1.116-1.117 was thinking about going to 32x15x16 tire & wheel to shorten the sidewall ( less area to stretch) or Beadlocks on my 15's. Not sure which would be best we bracket race and run it in Super Gas
What is your combination ? Car weight et etc..

Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: BeadLocks - 10/12/12 01:22 AM

You might try running a stiff sidewall tire. I ran Goodyears for years and they were great but when they went away they went away. I switched to M/T stiff sidewall a coupl eof years ago and have not looked back. The M/T is a larger tire, more rollout but dont go away near as quickly.

As for beadlocks they will stiffen the sidewall a bit. They will also ad weight to the car in the wrong area. It will likely slow a bit in 60' but may maintain the times for a longer period.

FWIW I change my tires every year, I run 15x33 M/T. My car destroys the side walls as well. When we ran goodyears we were lucky to get a good 40 passes from them. Car is almost 2900lbs and will go bottom 8's at 170 all out, however I run S/ST mostly anymore so 10.90 in the high 150's or 11.05 at mid 150's or 11.35 at 151. Sorry lots of elevation track out here in the west

Posted By: sccuda

Re: BeadLocks - 10/12/12 01:29 AM

How many runs do you get out of Mickeys ? Did you have to adjust your suspension ? I tried Hoosiers once made 10 passes spun bad 10 times sold them at a loss and went back to Goodyears. I thought the D1984 is supposed to be the stiff sidewall.

Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: BeadLocks - 10/12/12 01:37 AM

Changed nothing in the suspension. The tires are actually about a 2" larger rollout and are about 1" more section width. As for how long I run them, we replace them at the end of the year. I give or sell them off after that and I know of one car that is well OVER 200 MORE passes since I sold them on them. They do not go away on me I just get new ones every year. When we ran Goodyears I would have to replace them during a year as the 60's dropped off. This year I am up to 87 passes and counting. Racing this weekend at Jegs Sportsnats and one more divisional, the SCSN race and the Turkey race so we will be well over 100.

Posted By: sccuda

Re: BeadLocks - 10/12/12 01:48 AM

Thanks for the info, I will look into the Mickeys, The larger tire might be a problem with clearing the lower part of the fender, once up on the tire I have plenty of room, its driving around the pits etc... Good Luck in your last races I envy you guys running in the winter or all year with the warm weather, supposed to start raining hear and probably wont stop till July LOL

Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: BeadLocks - 10/12/12 01:56 AM

Well it has been raining all day and is 61 and windy here...So not sure about the warm part

Posted By: rickseeman

Re: BeadLocks - 10/12/12 02:14 PM

Beadlock wheels are very heavy and very expensive. Beadlock tires are very heavy and expensive. I don't think you would like them.

Posted By: MegaDart

Re: BeadLocks - 10/12/12 02:29 PM

Beadlocks are the BOMB!!
If I could find a set to fit my ride at a reasonable price I'd buy'em.
FWIW, the added weight over the rear axle did not slow my dragster down one bit. If anything it was quicker due to better traction on our crappy tracks!
That is not very good tire life from those gy's.
I am running a set of GY2078 33x15x15 they are stiff sidewall D6 compound absolutely the best tire for me so far.
All that said, IMO you need a stiff sidewall on your car.

Posted By: MegaDart

Re: BeadLocks - 10/12/12 02:36 PM

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Beadlock wheels are very heavy and very expensive. Beadlock tires are very heavy and expensive. I don't think you would like them.

anyone got real world weight differences on beadlock vs. non bead lock??
I bet it's not as much as people think.

And what is a beadlock tire??

I've run M/T tires before and I would bet my GY mounted on beadlocks weigh no more then M/T's on non beadlock. M/t's are heavy.

Posted By: Troy

Re: BeadLocks - 10/13/12 06:55 PM

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Beadlocks are the BOMB!!
If I could find a set to fit my ride at a reasonable price I'd buy'em.
FWIW, the added weight over the rear axle did not slow my dragster down one bit. If anything it was quicker due to better traction on our crappy tracks!
That is not very good tire life from those gy's.
I am running a set of GY2078 33x15x15 they are stiff sidewall D6 compound absolutely the best tire for me so far.
All that said, IMO you need a stiff sidewall on your car.

Posted By: mopar dave

Re: BeadLocks - 10/13/12 07:15 PM

had my centerline's converted to beadlock for $180/wheel. i didnt really need them but figured they look way better than screws in your wheels.

Posted By: sunroofgtx

Re: BeadLocks - 10/13/12 08:55 PM

Dave, who converted them? I have some one-off 16x16's I need to get done. Joe at Holeshot only converts his. Thanks.

Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: BeadLocks - 10/14/12 03:41 AM

Champion Wheels will convert others wheels.

Posted By: mopar dave

Re: BeadLocks - 10/14/12 04:51 AM

champion wheel. different styles to choose from too.

Posted By: jamesc

Re: BeadLocks - 10/14/12 05:01 AM

you running tubes?

Posted By: mopar dave

Re: BeadLocks - 10/14/12 06:09 AM

no tubes. hoosier quick time pros and dont lose air.

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: BeadLocks - 10/14/12 01:04 PM

A friend of mine changed over to bead lock rims and
he can get about 10 more passes on the tires over what
he use to(mid 8 second door car)... I can tell how
many runs are on my tires based on the 60'... I get
a 1.19 60' for 20 passes, 1.20 for 20 passes, 20 at
1.21 then it tends to hold at 1.22 but I usually replace
them when it hits 1.22... the tire still has PLENTY
of wear indicator hole left on them..this is with
tubes in them... I got more runs on the M/T but never
got a 1.19 60" they normally ran 1.20 but for about
50 passes then they fell off.... I never ran G/Y so
I dont know about them but I hear they are softer for
the bite but shorter life

Oh yeah... I run screws on them... 14x31.25 on a 12" rim