3G HEMI 1st time to track

Posted By: 340RICK

3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/20/12 11:51 PM

It all went purty fast just getting the car going with the XFI 2.0/XIM on the car this past week.
I really wanted to make it out for the Mopower race this past wknd.

So I fired it up thursday morning with some tunning in the garage. Called my local chassis dyno guy and he said he could get me in at 1 in the afternoon that day. Cool right, so head over there for about 3 hours of hard thrashin on the car. Have it fairly close. Leave it in the trailer and take off for National Trails early friday morning.

Made 2 easy passes lifting at the 1/8th. Foot braked the car leaving at 2000rpm shifted 6500
went 6.55 in the 1/8th....NO issues with car

I data logged all the passes and lookd at run VE table could use some work but not to bad. I felt Close eunff to make a 1/4mile pass and see what happens.

So leave at 2000 again shift at 7000RPM went 10.21 at 133mph with a 1.49 60ft

I was to sceered to change the VE table with out talking to Mopar Rich. So just left it alone and made a few more passes all in the 10.20's

So for the 1st time out I am purty darn happy.

I am sure with some tunning it will squeak in the
9's with ease. Car should 60ft in the low 1.30's like it did with the W9 motor.

Posted By: 340RICK

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/21/12 12:08 AM

Oh and I cant thank Fastmanefi aka Mopar Rich enuff for his pateience with me. I am a rookie tunner learning alot right now.

Also Vernmotor, Josh King, my boy Mitch with there help on the car

Posted By: BPE

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/21/12 12:28 AM

Good job Rick. One of the coolest builds around. Keep us posted on the progress and maybe some videos.

Rod

Posted By: 69dart

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/21/12 12:39 AM

133 MPH is rolling pretty good. My roadster goes 9.73 @ 133 with a powerglide. So I would expect you should be able in that range with all of Bob's fancy chassis work.

Posted By: JackGTX440

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/21/12 12:57 AM

How do you like the fast xfi? That is what is going on my turbo 6.1. I had emailed fastmanefi a number of times about it. He's a super helpful guy!

Posted By: 340RICK

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/21/12 01:06 AM

I really like the XFI......I think I can get the car tunned to run like a 2012 Challenger. Its a little overwhelming at first. But Rich has walked me thru doing it myself for the most part.

One of the great things is the data logging. I logged dyno runs and 1/4 mile passes and then e-mailed them with my VE table to Rich he can make changes then e-mail it back to me to put that tune in the car.

Posted By: STEFF

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/21/12 01:07 AM

Very Cool Rick!!! Congrats on a great first outing. What was the fastest you went with the W9?

Posted By: 340RICK

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/21/12 01:14 AM

W9 went 9.63 @ 139 with a 1.30 60 ft

Thanks

Posted By: SLEDGEHAMMER

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/21/12 01:29 AM

Great job Rick!!!

Looks like your gonna be one of those tuner guys soon enough.

Don't be scared to change things around you are only one file away from getting back where you were.

Posted By: 440Jim

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/21/12 01:39 AM

Quote:

Made 2 easy passes lifting at the 1/8th. Foot braked the car leaving at 2000rpm shifted 6500
went 6.55 in the 1/8th....NO issues with car

That is a good start, confidence is high?

Quote:

So leave at 2000 again shift at 7000RPM went 10.21 at 133mph with a 1.49 60ft

Not a bad run, the sixty foot wasn't as good as expected. But maybe some starting line technique (transbrake, stage rpm, etc. will wake that up pretty easily). I would have been pretty careful on that day. So I think you did very well being careful and the best is yet to come.

Posted By: 440Jim

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/21/12 01:45 AM

I love the new 3G Hemi.
I think it has great potential and fun for Mopar racers in the coming years.

I keep good notes, but check/add to this one. What are the basics? 426? CR, 727, gear, converter, etc.

Quote:

6.1 block 4.065
I bought the Manley rotating kit
4.050 stroke 48lb crank
Manley H beams 2.00" x 6.125 .927 pin
manley flat tops 11.5 to 1
LSM cam .400 LS lobe(.640 ) 266/272 @.050 114 LSA hydraulic roller
Manton 3/8 pushrods
ATI dampner
Charlies 8QT oil pan

CNC ported 6.1 heads from MCH Pac 1219 beehives 150/400 open
Sharadon rocker shaft tie bars and collars
Drag Pack intake
Fast EFI

Posted By: EvilB1Dart

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/21/12 02:26 AM

Congrats, Rick! That thing is gonna be an animal with some more tweaks man! Happy to hear its going in the right direction for ya! Keep at it.

Wes

Posted By: Dragula

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/21/12 04:09 AM

I am very jealous...You come out of the gate with a brand new combo running just about the same ET as our pump gas big block that took us half a season to work the bugs out of.. Very nice, especially considering its a small bock.

Posted By: 67mprfan

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/21/12 04:59 AM

congrats rick car looks good

Posted By: Red440

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/21/12 05:39 AM

Cool build Rick, sounds like good potential left in your combo according to the 60 foot and the mph.keep us posted on the tweaks to the 6.1

btw: where did you get that scoop on your ride?

Posted By: ProSport

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/21/12 11:32 AM

Nice numbers Rick, glad it went well for ya!

Posted By: racer_amx

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/21/12 12:29 PM

Congrats, awesome car

Posted By: StandOnIt

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/21/12 12:52 PM

Nice Rick! Very good numbers for the first session of hits on a completely new setup! Like with anything, more tuning will have that thing flying! Question, what does the car weigh? I hope our 5.7 carb motor lays down solid numbers as you did first out. I'm still at stage that I am flipping coin on crank stroke decision. Will be ordering internals by next week.

Posted By: Hitman340

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/21/12 01:20 PM

Its good to see you back out with the car again Rick.Im glad things went well for you and Im sure we will see that thing on the rear bumper soon.
Will we see you in Saint Louis?

Posted By: ZIPPY

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/21/12 01:25 PM

Very, very nice job

Posted By: Dartin

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/21/12 01:54 PM

Congrats Rick! It will be interesting to see the numbers when you get a handle on the tune!

Randy

Posted By: Dragula

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/22/12 06:52 PM

Rick,

That is pretty awesome, can you give us a run down of the combo again?

Posted By: 340RICK

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/22/12 08:13 PM

Quote:

I love the new 3G Hemi.
I think it has great potential and fun for Mopar racers in the coming years.

I keep good notes, but check/add to this one. What are the basics? 426? CR, 727, gear, converter, etc.

Quote:

6.1 block 4.065
I bought the Manley rotating kit
4.050 stroke 48lb crank
Manley H beams 2.00" x 6.125 .927 pin
manley flat tops 11.5 to 1
LSM cam .400 LS lobe(.640 ) 266/272 @.050 114 LSA hydraulic roller
Manton 3/8 pushrods
ATI dampner
Charlies 8QT oil pan

CNC ported 6.1 heads from MCH Pac 1219 beehives 150/400 open
Sharadon rocker shaft tie bars and collars
Drag Pack intake
Fast EFI

I am running a CRT 727
PTC 8" converter stalls at 5000
Dana 60 with 4.56
TTi headers with 3" straight line mufflers
29.5x10.5's mickeys on 12" rims
Car is 3175lbs

Posted By: nss guy

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/22/12 10:56 PM

The car looked great as always, liked the motor paint and the black powdercoat
That thing is flying for how mild it sounds.
An easy 9sec ride

Posted By: joshking440

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/23/12 12:31 AM

you call joe yet?

Posted By: W9 Dart

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/24/12 02:53 AM

Nice build.... Is ur weight 3175 with driver? I'm trying to get an idea of what my 6.1 with the kenne bell will run. I have
Forged 6.1
Ported heads cam
14lb boost supercharger
3" tti headers and straight through mufflers
Tranzact 727
PTC 9.5"
350 grs 9"

I think we would be a close race. Are you going to mmw? What class u running in gen 3?

Quote:

Quote:

I love the new 3G Hemi.
I think it has great potential and fun for Mopar racers in the coming years.

I keep good notes, but check/add to this one. What are the basics? 426? CR, 727, gear, converter, etc.

Quote:

6.1 block 4.065
I bought the Manley rotating kit
4.050 stroke 48lb crank
Manley H beams 2.00" x 6.125 .927 pin
manley flat tops 11.5 to 1
LSM cam .400 LS lobe(.640 ) 266/272 @.050 114 LSA hydraulic roller
Manton 3/8 pushrods
ATI dampner
Charlies 8QT oil pan

CNC ported 6.1 heads from MCH Pac 1219 beehives 150/400 open
Sharadon rocker shaft tie bars and collars
Drag Pack intake
Fast EFI

I am running a CRT 727
PTC 8" converter stalls at 5000
Dana 60 with 4.56
TTi headers with 3" straight line mufflers
29.5x10.5's mickeys on 12" rims
Car is 3175lbs

Posted By: HardcoreB

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/25/12 03:35 PM

Nice work Rick. Looks real good.

I hope to see it soon.

Posted By: challenger1320

Re: 3G HEMI 1st time to track - 05/25/12 04:35 PM

How is the hood. I thought I saw it trying to fly away.