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Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine

Posted By: joshking440

Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 03:31 AM

And why?????

Is it the P5 stuff? Maybe a PSO? ProStock Hemis? BAE???

If you were gonna build the baddest piece you could, what would it be and why
Posted By: Darryls-Demon

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 03:42 AM

I think Go Green has the right idea. But I must admit after watching his car pick the front tires off the ground at 1000 FT in Vegas Iam somewhat smittin.
Posted By: Dragula

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 03:49 AM

For me, its the pro stock Hemi's...Seems like if you were to raise the cubes up and put the heads on a +600 cube motor and brought the power band down into a more usable range, it would be the best of both worlds.

I think a guy on here has one on a billet block 650 at cubes running very low 7's or better normally aspirated...

For an all out motor, that is probably what I would run $$$$

The P5 I believe was the predecessor to the Hemi 99 design.
Posted By: Bigcube

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 03:49 AM

I like that 650+ cube hemi 99 ARC built with the billet block.
Posted By: Diablo

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 03:49 AM

I have to say this is it!

http://goodwincompetition.com/hemi.htm

http://goodwincompetition.com/media/P500raceengine.htm

Especially since he has plans to develop a 5.3 and5.4 bore space engines with his "mopar" hemi heads.

If I had the extra change I would have gone for one of these for Diablo!

P.S. Next week I go to pick up our "new" engine for the truck. Its not Goodwins Billet Hemi but the last prototype with a cast 5 inch BS block and 5 inch prostock heads.
Posted By: bigtimeauto

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 03:57 AM



Posted By: quickd100

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 03:59 AM

Quote:

And why?????

Is it the P5 stuff? Maybe a PSO? ProStock Hemis? BAE???

If you were gonna build the baddest piece you could, what would it be and why




You ever watched top fuel cars? They are time bombs but how do you argue with 8000hp.
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 04:54 AM

Quote:

And why?????

Is it the P5 stuff? Maybe a PSO? ProStock Hemis? BAE???

If you were gonna build the baddest piece you could, what would it be and why


N/A, NOS or Boost?
Posted By: RUNCHARGER

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 05:31 AM

Top Fuel Hemi. There's no arguing with their performance. Nothings quicker, or louder.

Sheldon
Posted By: mike54

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 05:41 AM

ss/ah
Posted By: RemCharger

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 06:29 AM

Quote:

ss/ah


Tough to beat that answer.
Posted By: MoparBilly

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 06:35 AM

440, Bump top TRW's, 312/590 purple shaft, ported 915's, Isky ductile adjustables, holley street dominator with an 850, Cal Custom covers, and an accel dual point.
That my friends, is the be all, end all!!!
Posted By: J_BODY

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 06:54 AM

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440, Bump top TRW's, 312/590 purple shaft, ported 915's, Isky ductile adjustables, holley street dominator with an 850, Cal Custom covers, and an accel dual point.
That my friends, is the be all, end all!!!




.... if you would have added "two nitrous plates stacked under the carb" I would have thought it was one of your engines Billy!
Posted By: fishy340

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 12:57 PM

lol..i would be happy with the hemi Al was selling 1300 na hp or a twin turbo w8 or 9 motor.
Posted By: B1Fish540

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 01:35 PM

The most "exotic" is the pro stock hemi99. The ulitmate street engine was the 426 hemi. The Ultimate engine period is the Top Fuel BAE Hemi.

So guess the all-around winner is: The Hemi!... huh, bet you did'nt know that...

Posted By: 340RICK

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 01:56 PM

HEMI
Posted By: HPMike

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 02:58 PM

Hard to argue with any reply that suggests the Hemi. But lets not overlook the Maxie. Truth is if you exclude the 68SS A bodies, they were the nastiest package EVER produced during the musclecar years-or beyond?

MB

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Posted By: Crizila

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 03:33 PM

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Hard to argue with any reply that suggests the Hemi. But lets not overlook the Maxie. Truth is if you exclude the 68SS A bodies, they were the nastiest package EVER produced during the musclecar years-or beyond?

MB


For sure, but the motor that put Chrysler on the map was the 392 Hemi. Most widely used motor in racing - for Chrysler. A true brutt of a motor right off the shelf!
Posted By: smokinwoody

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 03:59 PM

Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine ??

one that wont break!!

nothing wrong with a big wedge engine especially with unique intakes and multiple carbs or injection...

but of course for WOW factors and a simple answer is...YEAH, It's got a HEMI....
Posted By: rlm2268

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 04:42 PM

I would agree that goodwin competition semi hemi motor is pretty awsome Todd is a good guy, he did all my machine work on my block and rotating assy for my 500" lowdeck
Posted By: ro23car

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 06:03 PM

mine but its not for sale
Posted By: joshking440

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 09:57 PM

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mine but its not for sale




Everything is for sale...
Posted By: LaRoy Engines

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 10:10 PM

For the dollar value, its the all motor 451 with RPM heads that makes 787 HP on 91 octane pump gas.
Posted By: Defbob

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 10:22 PM

Do you mean specific motor or type?

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Posted By: Joesixpack

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 10:26 PM

500 Indy Max.....

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Posted By: Joesixpack

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 10:34 PM

52 Kurtis Indy 500 racer,331 Hemi powered!

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Posted By: 1Fast340

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 10:46 PM

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Posted By: produster

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 10:58 PM

You need to show some love the NASCAR R5P7 and the R9's.

850+hp @9000 rpms 358cid for 500 miles. Seems pretty stout set up to me.

Then drop the compression, hang a set of twins off it. that might be hard to beat. Only down fall I see to this combo would be the valves, might eat a few before you get it right...

just sayin'

PD
Posted By: Crizila

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 11:17 PM

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Do you mean specific motor or type?


Ya, some of the motors mentioned in this thread are lucky to have any "Mopar" parts in them.
Posted By: 65signet

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/24/12 11:28 PM

I like this one!

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Posted By: bwdst6

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/25/12 12:02 AM

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Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine ??

one that wont break!!


ok, so the pre-1998.5, 5.9 liter Cummins!
Posted By: robnbird

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/25/12 02:27 AM

Quote:

Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine ??

one that wont break!!

nothing wrong with a big wedge engine especially with unique intakes and multiple carbs or injection...

but of course for WOW factors and a simple answer is...YEAH, It's got a HEMI....


the great thing about the chevy is you can work at Mcdonalds and race one slowly.
Posted By: demongup

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/25/12 02:44 AM

Quote:

And why?????

Is it the P5 stuff? Maybe a PSO? ProStock Hemis? BAE???

If you were gonna build the baddest piece you could, what would it be and why




looking for new ideas....?
Posted By: STEFF

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/25/12 02:51 AM

Aussie Pro Stock P5 or Hemi 99'. Isn't there a 5" bore space Hemi 99' for IHRA? 800 cubes!!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/25/12 03:12 AM

Quote:

Quote:

And why?????

Is it the P5 stuff? Maybe a PSO? ProStock Hemis? BAE???

If you were gonna build the baddest piece you could, what would it be and why




looking for new ideas....?






588" blown stage V Hemi, yes sir
Posted By: CUUDAK

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/25/12 05:30 AM

Funny stuff!

Hemi, Big cubes! There is a replacement for displacement!

Turbo it, "ALL" the torque you will ever need!
Posted By: joshking440

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/25/12 07:10 AM

Quote:

ss/ah




Why? What makes it the ultImate mopar engine?
Posted By: nz383man

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/25/12 07:35 AM

Dual plug Pro Stock Hemi would be my pick



and I'm working on it . . .





Magnesium tunnel ram, very early Mopar crank trigger ignition, solid roller cam & too much compression
It's a street engine though so the Dominators will come a bit later, once I've got a few things sorted out

If funds weren't an issue it would have lots more cubes & better heads.
Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/25/12 07:41 AM

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Do you mean specific motor or type?


Has Brian been running that thing any?
Posted By: RemCharger

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/25/12 10:30 AM

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ss/ah




Why? What makes it the ultImate mopar engine?


Its the ultimate mopar engine.
I like 383's...but.. 1000hp out of a stock (ISH) 426 Hemi has no rival.
Posted By: UCUDANT

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/25/12 10:34 AM

When the brand X competition ran them in their cars they voted it best engine for us....the Hemi

The Ford boys would talk smack and I'd ask em if Alderman ran a Ford engine John Force had a version of the Hemi ...then they commence to tell you how it's not a Mopar engine. Same basic design no? I might have been wrong but let them prove it
This one says wedge

Posted By: Defbob

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/25/12 01:30 PM

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Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine ??

one that wont break!!


ok, so the pre-1998.5, 5.9 liter Cummins!




sorry not a Mopar engine...
Posted By: Defbob

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/25/12 01:36 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Do you mean specific motor or type?


Has Brian been running that thing any?




http://www.rocket-olds.com/Shows/09Shootout/orlando/Orlando%20041.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En1Cw4Jw-rg
Posted By: joshking440

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/26/12 09:37 PM

Brian runs the NMCA pretty consistently as well.
Posted By: B1Fish540

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/27/12 03:41 AM

Good thread ...

I do like a B1 motor. They are simple and make gobs of horsepower.
"one" of the best mopar engines, imo.
Posted By: bwdst6

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/27/12 04:45 AM

Quote:

Quote:

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Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine ??

one that wont break!!


ok, so the pre-1998.5, 5.9 liter Cummins!




sorry not a Mopar engine...


Neither is a top fuel engine.
Posted By: RemCharger

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/27/12 04:31 PM

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Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine ??

one that wont break!!


ok, so the pre-1998.5, 5.9 liter Cummins!




sorry not a Mopar engine...


Neither is a top fuel engine.


They are chevy engines.
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/27/12 04:36 PM

I dont know about the "ultimate" Mopar engine but in my opinion a GOOD B1 engine will make very good power and is relatively simple change. Never habe figured out why there are not more of them out there.

Oh yeah the 99 Hemi is kinda cool too
Posted By: BigBlockMopar

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/27/12 04:57 PM

413 with a Thermoquad.







* Thread-derailment in 3... 2... 1...

Posted By: shoebox

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/27/12 10:28 PM

For me-- 622 b1 wedge pump gas motor that is street driven often!
Posted By: HardcoreB

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/29/12 01:38 PM

To me it would depend on its intended purpose...(class-racing, head-up, etc) Because I've seen an 'ultimate' rotary engine too so, I'm just saying perception is relative for me anyway. But, if your fishing for ideas/opinions for your next Head-up engine because you want to be competetive then ( ) I would use an engine designed/engineered for racing with the foundation to seal and integrity to live at higher power levels and lastly used commonly enough that you can get a variety of parts for...e.g.- R3 W?, PS Hemi, R5.
Posted By: Pat7272

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/29/12 02:33 PM

420-450" P5 with pro-mod twins
Posted By: cold85

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/29/12 03:04 PM

Jimmys new motor for his dart!
Posted By: joshking440

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/29/12 04:03 PM

It's interesting to read all of the responses.

I would expect for the vast majority of people to list
Hemi99
P5 small block hemis
W8-w9
BAE/Alan Johnson blown hemis
R5p7s

I've already began that process of the new build for the car Shawn, I was just more interested in what this site feels to be "ultimate"
Posted By: Moparnut426

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/29/12 04:13 PM

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Thats not a MOPAR
Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/29/12 06:03 PM

I'll stick with it being this one. At least with a naturally aspirated set up. Hard to beat a blown Hemi..The block and heads have Mopar part numbers...

Posted By: ROSSIO

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/29/12 07:20 PM

#1--DEFBOBS picture of the twin turbo hemi
#2 --the "sonnys" motor
#3------------mine--and it is NOT for sale--i just freshened it up from BES AND-- i just paid it all off.
i feel the "ultimate" in these days--would be a 525 plus cube mild built twin turbo --would be the ticket----drivibility and performance is the key,you would have both with the "twins".
Posted By: Moparnut426

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/29/12 07:42 PM

That sonnys engine is a ford based engine from what I have read up onit. His "hemi" head is nothing hemi except for plug location, and thats a stretch. Its a canted head design. Its a HELL of an engine, and should be for the price tag. Id love to stick one of those in a 4x4 lumber wagon. Hoe cool would that be to cruise up to the local wood pile, and say "I better check the oil on this ol girl" to your buddies, and open the hood to that beast!

Posted By: LA360

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/30/12 12:29 AM

Hemi 99 or P5 small block! I would like to see what a max effort P7 headed engine would do also!
Posted By: theman440

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/30/12 04:58 AM

Me and my buddy Tom thought up this one - Stage 5 Hemi set up on a 400 block w/383 crank. Naturally with good rods and pistons, lots o compression and a big solid roller. Haven't thought out an induction system - maybe a SS/AH style sheet metal.
Posted By: 63postcar

Re: Whats the "ULTIMATE" Mopar Engine - 03/30/12 08:42 AM

How about the "Doomsday" engine, the A-925 DOHC Hemi ? Pretty neat concept for 64-65 !
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