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Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do?

Posted By: 300by500

Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/18/13 06:00 PM

I picked up a CHEAP '93 D350 Club Cab. Great running Cummins auto. But there are so many things I could do with it!





It needs some body work and the lights / trim are a mess. BUT - I can get all brand new shiny grille parts, front bumper, side markers, parking lights and tail lights for less than $500 from Rockauto.com. Also - there's a place where I can score a set of 19.5 wheels from a bread truck for about $100, and I can get new 19.5 tires from a buddy of mine for $160 each. I would need two fenders, a tailgate, and some minor repair on the bed and rockers, then I'd paint it white. The end result would look something like this:






OR... I've always LOVED Crew Cab duallies. I could buy one and swap the Cummins into it. BUT - I'd have to spend a bit of $$$ to buy another truck, and the conversion would take some time. So, more time and $$$, but the end result would be this:






OR... I also like a well-built "rat rod". There are endless possibilities, but I've narrowed it down to one that I really like, but don't see often. The '58-'60 D500 trucks are sweet! But I'm sure there would be a lot of fabrication to make the cab and fenders fit the '93 frame and the Cummins, and unfortunately most of the available projects only come with a flat bed or a grain bed, so Also - most importantly - the cab would be really small. But - it would be SO cool!

Posted By: 76dodgeboy

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/18/13 07:15 PM

I really like the 19.5 Idea. look at treadwright.com for tires. they have 2 sizes. If you come across some 19.5 super singles (non dually) Id be interested.
Posted By: WO23Coronet

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/18/13 08:35 PM

19.5 it and keep it black. Lean on that 5.9 a bit and let her eat
Posted By: 76dodgeboy

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/18/13 08:51 PM

Have you considered the Big rig wheel conversion? I like them but when I came across this pic(yeah not dodge) I thought it looked Sweet. You'd just have to paint them black

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Posted By: pinkduster

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/18/13 09:10 PM

Why paint it white when black would be better? Plus painting it black, you wouldn't have to do the door jambs and under the hood. I think black looks great and I present exhibit A in my defense of black:



The grille you are talking about will not have the DODGE letters on it. Can you get chrome simulators for the 19.5s?
Posted By: Silver70

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/18/13 10:03 PM

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Have you considered the Big rig wheel conversion? I like them but when I came across this pic(yeah not dodge) I thought it looked Sweet. You'd just have to paint them black




I think that looks horrible
Posted By: 76dodgeboy

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/18/13 11:57 PM

You don't have to run that low profile of a tire.
I like the 19.5s alot. I want to make my crew a dually so I can run them with these. Its a treadwright tire.

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Posted By: 300by500

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/19/13 02:15 AM

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Why paint it white when black would be better? Plus painting it black, you wouldn't have to do the door jambs and under the hood. I think black looks great and I present exhibit A in my defense of black:



The grille you are talking about will not have the DODGE letters on it. Can you get chrome simulators for the 19.5s?




I like black, that truck is AWESOME! - nothing looks better than black when it is clean. But it is hard to keep clean. The jambs are blue, someone painted the black over the blue.

I know the knock-off grille doesn't say Dodge on it, but at sixty bucks there's about a $200-$300 price difference between the two. Quite a chunk of

I'm not sure about stainless simulators for 19.5, I'm sure somebody makes them...

As for semi wheels, I doubt they'd fit without raising the truck a ton. Looks OK, just too much "HEY! Look at me!" for my taste, and I can do 19.5s for under $1,000 total.

Posted By: tmef

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/19/13 02:31 AM

Absolutely nothing more than drive it the way it is. Fix the little stuff like missing marker lights and such but nothing more. Unless you plan on keeping it forever don't put anymore dimes into it than you need to because you will never get them back. Turning radius of the Titanic coupled with the ride of Barney Rubbles log car equals not much joy to drive.

That being said I wouldn't part with mine for two good reasons. One, its paid for and cheap to own. Two, I can't give it away. I hear stories about how first gen diesels are desirable and hard to find. Well mine is as rust free as the day it was made and very well maintained but brings no interest in these parts.

I put it on Craiglist a while ago and only got two trade offers for it. One was for a Ford 9N tractor that needed some work and the other was a 70's F250 4x4 that was just a POS. Drive it like it is.

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Posted By: Mopar2DBone

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/19/13 02:31 AM

I would love to have one turned into a car hauler.. I get tired of pulling a trailer hauling all my projects around..
Posted By: 76dodgeboy

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/19/13 05:52 AM

No lift needed. The chevy I plated has the 22.5s and he's bagged. Tire choice is where height would be determined. If your object a sort of budget than Yes 19.5" would look Sweet. I wouldnt bother with stainless simulators
Posted By: 76dodgeboy

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/19/13 06:58 AM

19.5 Super single with the Treadwright 245/70 tire

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Posted By: 76dodgeboy

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/19/13 07:01 AM

2

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Posted By: 76dodgeboy

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/19/13 07:02 AM

cleared just fine. Regret selling them

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Posted By: 76dodgeboy

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/19/13 07:06 AM

https://www.treadwright.com/c-24-225-70r19-5.aspx

https://www.treadwright.com/c-25-245-70r19-5.aspx

Posted By: basketcase

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/19/13 04:39 PM

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Why paint it white when black






that's the one!
Posted By: WO23Coronet

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/19/13 09:58 PM

The 22.5 semi wheels KILL front end parts and u joints
Posted By: 76dodgeboy

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/19/13 10:24 PM

No different than guys running 20s up to 28s or whatever they have now.
Posted By: WO23Coronet

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/20/13 02:33 AM

The factory 20's on my 05 ram are no where near as heavy as 22.5's. My factory 20's are around 85 lbs a price, from what I could put together on the web a 22.5 tire/ wheel package is probably double that at least.
An acquaintance of mine had the whole 22.5 deal on a 3500 ram and ball joints/tie rods/pitman etc replacement was a yearly job.
Posted By: 300by500

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/20/13 03:13 AM

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The factory 20's on my 05 ram are no where near as heavy as 22.5's. My factory 20's are around 85 lbs a price, from what I could put together on the web a 22.5 tire/ wheel package is probably double that at least.
An acquaintance of mine had the whole 22.5 deal on a 3500 ram and ball joints/tie rods/pitman etc replacement was a yearly job.




I have factory 16s on a 2000 Ram Van 3500, and it's a yearly job too! LOL!
Posted By: 76dodgeboy

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/20/13 04:25 AM

The 19.5 tires I posted come in at 85lbs. The aluminum 22.5s won't weight much really. the tires are heavy. The steelies with a tire are Heavy. picked obey off the side of the road and put it in the back of the truck. What a B@(%h
Posted By: MoparMike23

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/20/13 01:19 PM

i think crew cabs are the way to go......


Posted By: 300by500

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/20/13 06:03 PM

OK.... I just found one of THESE. Not a nice one like in the pic, but a solid one with nice patina.

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Posted By: 300by500

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/20/13 06:06 PM

Second pic. Too bad they put it on a Chevrolet frame....

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Posted By: 300by500

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/21/13 04:28 AM

OK. This will be an adventure....

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Posted By: Prince_Valiant

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/21/13 05:08 PM

I have always wanted to do one of those trucks up as a maximum "over-the-road" style truck, meaning, making it as quiet, comfortable, and nice for ubber-long road trips/etc. Maybe swapping to a 4 speed auto (that gen came w/ 3 speeds right?) as well...

To me it'd work better as a crew-cab, but aside from looking rough, you've got a decent truck to work with as it is...so it's simply personal preference/money that dictates the decision to me.

I do really like that black one above
Posted By: CTD5.9

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/21/13 05:17 PM

I think 91.5-93 should be a 4 speed auto
Posted By: 76dodgeboy

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/21/13 06:16 PM

If you weren't so fat away Id be interested in the cab if you decide to use the retrain elsewhere
Posted By: 300by500

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/21/13 07:19 PM

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I think 91.5-93 should be a 4 speed auto




Yep. The intercooled versions came with OD.
Posted By: 300by500

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/21/13 07:26 PM

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If you weren't so fat away Id be interested in the cab if you decide to use the retrain elsewhere




I will be parting out a lot of it, but first I want to use it to haul the C500 home. After that I'll be selling off what I don't need.

It'll be a month or two before I can drag the C500 home. In the meantime I'm going to get all of the mechanicals fixed up so everything is roadworthy.

Go figure... "rat rod it" got the fewest votes, and that's what I've decided to do. Should make an interesting tow piece!
Posted By: jimbob101

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/22/13 03:53 PM

Put a 70s body on it!! : )

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Posted By: 300by500

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/22/13 05:24 PM



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Put a 70s body on it!! : )





That truck looks great, Jimbob!

As for this one, I'm putting the 1963 C500 body on it. I want it to look similar to the green / white one in the pic, but I plan on leaving the paint as-is if possible, just a few touch ups, a light scuff, and some satin clear.

I'm not going to put a utility bed on it like the one in the pic. I want a long stepside bed painted/ aged to match the cab with big fenders on it, so I'll have to come up with something. I'd rather leave the wheelbase right where it is for a better ride and towing, so it'll be a loooong bed. I want mine to have a little more forward rake as well, but the tire / wheel combo should take care of that.

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Posted By: 300by500

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/22/13 05:27 PM

The inspiration came from this '54 IH fire truck I saw on ebay a while back. I like the long look with the big/little rollers - so I want to run 16 inch wheels up front and matching 22.5s in the rear; either stockers up front with big steel Budds painted shiny the same color as the truck, or matching big / little 10-hole Alcoas like on the fire truck. The bed will need to be higher to cover the rear wheels, but mine wont be sitting on the ground like the IH, so it should work.

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Posted By: 300by500

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/22/13 05:30 PM


The plan is to use it as a daily driver with tools and parts on board to service my small delivery truck fleet, and occasional use towing my cars around. With that in mind, I'll try to keep the running gear / chassis as original as possible... basically a funny-looking stock '92 D350.

She sure doesn't look like much right now....

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Posted By: 300by500

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/22/13 05:34 PM

The best part is that once I sell or scrap everything I'm not using, the '63 stuff will basically be FREE!

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Posted By: dynotune440

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/22/13 06:41 PM

thats going to be sweet!!!
Posted By: 76dodgeboy

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/22/13 07:11 PM

See now you can do the 22.5 conversion
Posted By: Cooter

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/23/13 01:08 AM

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She sure doesn't look like much right now....




So you're the one who bought that one! I wanted it bad, but timing wasn't right.
Posted By: zrxkawboy

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/25/13 04:27 AM

Cool project. Keep us updated!
Posted By: 300by500

Re: Cummins D350 project. What would YOU do? - 08/25/13 08:23 PM



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