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After 5 years or so, I bought an old car
Posted By: Diego (not Ted)
After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/07/23 01:08 AM
Unfortunately, it's not a Mopar. I really expected it to be one, but I think there's some here who would appreciate it.
I was visiting family in Buenos Aires and a friend sent me the FB ad while I was overseas. I begun chatting with the guy then and called him immediately when I got home. A friend's cousin had already seen the car so I knew what I was up against, but the car ran well, so any issues with rust and the interior were perfect because I'm a dummy with my hands. This will allow me to enjoy the vehicle somewhat while I learn body work and other stuff. Alas, I have a broken ankle so I will have to wait to drive it.
It arrived a week ago Saturday, and the following day I found the original owner--all 89 years of him! He was a Mopar guy but bought this. Notice it's a 2-door sedan.....
Posted By: klunick
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/07/23 01:29 AM
How rare is that Diego? 389? and a 4 speed. I'd say you've done well. Nice fun car.
Posted By: Diego (not Ted)
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/07/23 01:35 AM
It's a 428/375. I have a friend who has one with the 428 HO, which is currently on display at the Gilmore.
The pages from the GM Heritage Museum are MIA so I don't have any info on this specific body style and engine combo. This is all I know:
-- 755 4-speeds for all big Pontiacs
-- 609 428 4-speeds, plus another 146 HOs for all big Pontiacs
-- 363 Catalina 4-speeds
--1,160 428s installed in Catalinas, but only 314 had a manual tranny
I can guess most of them were installed in hardtops and, perhaps, ragtops, with the balance going to 4-doors, wagons, and this 2-door sedan. I don't know any more than what I posted above and I wouldn't want to speculate cuz I hate when people do that. Looking at other cars with known numbers, like a Fury I vs. a more upscale Fury hardtop, I think it stands to reason this is quite an unusual vehicle. Has suspension package with sway bar, gauges, and dual exhausts, so it has some decent options.
Posted By: SattyNoCar
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/07/23 01:54 AM
I appreciate it!
That thing is AWSOME!!
Posted By: stumpy
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/07/23 02:11 AM
Hell if a car. Good deal.
Posted By: Dcuda69
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/07/23 02:26 AM
Very nice!! Enjoy!!
Posted By: FM3AAR
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/07/23 02:29 AM
Posted By: topside
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/07/23 02:48 AM
It's fine by me - I was shocked to scroll down and see the stick.
I'd bet that car is VERY rare; you should document it before any restoration work.
Have fun !
Posted By: TJP
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/07/23 03:03 AM
Posted By: bobby66
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/07/23 03:17 AM
Sweet!
Posted By: BloFish
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/07/23 04:02 AM
Rare indeed. Congrats
Posted By: Cab_Burge
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/07/23 05:17 AM
What year and model is it
?
Posted By: Diego (not Ted)
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/07/23 05:38 AM
Oh duh! It's a 1968 Catalina two-door sedan, the cheapest big Pontiac. Standard was a 400-2, with a 340-horse 400 optional. Next step up was a 428/375, which this has, and a 428/390.
Posted By: Dart 500
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/07/23 06:36 AM
Nice car, my dad had a 4 door version back when I was a kid in the early 80's. His brother bought it for $200 and drove it back home from the west coast to east coast with no reverse, his joke was "didnt matter, I wasnt going back". It was all primer spots and door dings but my dad did all the body work and made it pretty sweet before flipping it.
Posted By: polara71
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/07/23 09:15 AM
Gorgeous and cool.
Posted By: basketcase
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/07/23 11:37 AM
Nice looking Poncho, and a 4 gear!
Posted By: ruderunner
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/07/23 11:56 AM
There's a fellow in my area that has a 69 Galaxie 2 door with a 4 speed.
Full size stick big engine cars are proof that even dads needed to have some fun.
Posted By: 68SportFury
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/07/23 01:34 PM
Wow, Diego, that's an awesome find! And it looks pretty unmolested, too, with the whitewalls and wheel covers still in place!
That would be a multiple-photo car if I came across it at a show or cruise. Enjoy!
Posted By: Moparite
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/07/23 02:07 PM
What part of the country did it come from? I guess the pics are from the seller because they don't look like it is New York.
Posted By: Powerflow
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/07/23 03:17 PM
Great find! I'm sure you'll have a lot of fun with it.
I had a '68 Catalina convertible that I flipped in the late '70's. Still regret selling it.....
Posted By: slantzilla
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/07/23 04:22 PM
What a cool old Poncho! Enjoy!
Posted By: RoadRunnerLuva
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/07/23 04:53 PM
Awesome car Diego! I love big full size cars of all brands. My dad owned a '64 Catalina 2 door hardtop, that he bought new.
It was turquoise with turquoise cloth/vinyl interior. Wish I could find it.
Posted By: rrbrucea
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/07/23 10:13 PM
428 4 speed?! Yeah, that qualifies as cool! 👍
Posted By: topside
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/07/23 11:07 PM
Might want to obtain paperwork from PHS on the car - might not be the only one made, but could be close to that.
Posted By: Ramrod39
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/07/23 11:25 PM
Very nice. Great find!
Posted By: Diego (not Ted)
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/08/23 04:49 AM
What part of the country did it come from? I guess the pics are from the seller because they don't look like it is New York.
It is originally from Northern California. I believe it was bought new in Redwood City. The guy I bought it from lived in Torrance, CA, so I had it shipped out to me because I didn't want to drive it in the desert with the heat wave, not to mention my ankle can't handle the clutch for 7 hours.
Posted By: Diego (not Ted)
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/08/23 04:52 AM
Might want to obtain paperwork from PHS on the car - might not be the only one made, but could be close to that.
I have the paperwork.
PHS may have a few counts on the ultra-rare, like Trans Am ragtops or 1971 Judge ragtops, but they don't have production numbers as a whole except for engines and transmissions. Until missing paperwork pops up, there will be no way for me to know how many built. I do agree it's quite a rare piece.
This is my friend's car. It has the 428 HO, 4-speed, 4.11 gears from the factory. It's a strange one. Mine doesn't compare.
Posted By: SomeCarGuy
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/08/23 11:58 AM
Unexpected for many reasons!
Posted By: ChryCoGuy
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/08/23 12:48 PM
Congrats, Diego. That's a great find!!
I'm sure you're counting the days until your ankle heals up so you can get out and start rowing some gears!
Posted By: justinp61
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/08/23 01:15 PM
Nice Poncho, congrats!
Posted By: Seth_Jones
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/08/23 03:20 PM
I smell a new purestocker
Posted By: 56_Royal_Lancer
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/08/23 07:44 PM
Great car. I dig the unusual stuff, especially full size. Congratulations
Posted By: larrymopar360
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/08/23 09:22 PM
Wow. I'm a "Mopar or No Car" guy but I can definitely appreciate this Pontiac!
Posted By: Diego (not Ted)
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/09/23 04:05 AM
I smell a new purestocker
It's terribly logical to build it as an HO and see what it can do.
But I live 2000 miles away, and I'm the announcer besides. Not gonna skip my weekend job to drive.
Posted By: SNK-EYZ
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/09/23 04:38 AM
Cool car! The 4 speed definitely makes it awesome!
Posted By: larrymopar360
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/09/23 05:21 PM
Cool car! The 4 speed definitely makes it awesome!
Definitely. Can imagine a young guy just home from Vietnam buying something like this.
Posted By: Moparite
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/09/23 10:54 PM
I'm a "Mopar or No Car" guy
I am also but a few years ago i picked up a V12 Mercedes. The first non mopar car i ever owned. Pontiac's are alright, I liked a few of them. It's just the Chebys i can't stand.
Posted By: larrymopar360
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/09/23 11:45 PM
I'm a "Mopar or No Car" guy
I am also but a few years ago i picked up a V12 Mercedes. The first non mopar car i ever owned. Pontiac's are alright, I liked a few of them. It's just the Chebys i can't stand.
Exactly. A Pontiac or Olds, very cool. No chebbies! My brother and I loved Mercedes when we were kids (Mopars more though) and I still think they are cool.
Posted By: OrangeProwler
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 08/10/23 05:46 PM
Very cool car. I like it better than the Caprice or Biscayne.
Posted By: fc7_plumcrazy
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 10/05/23 09:48 PM
congratulations on your new toy Diego
Carsten
Posted By: 340SIX
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 10/05/23 10:19 PM
Wow what a sleeper
Posted By: 6PakBee
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 10/06/23 02:02 PM
Nothing wrong with a Pontiac. If I didn't have so many projects, I'd have a '64 Catalina. Always loved them.
Posted By: Wagonmaster
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 10/18/23 02:53 AM
My experience with big Ponchos is only Grand Prix cars. I've had 3.. My '69 was a 428/three pedal car - yellow with a black top and interior. Tons of fun! Dad hooked me on GPs with his '63GP. Was a 421/4-gear car. Still love MOPARS, but the Ponchos are sweet, as well. Nice car, good find. Congrats!
Posted By: Diego (not Ted)
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 10/18/23 04:10 AM
Thanks!
Posted By: MarkZ
Re: After 5 years or so, I bought an old car - 10/18/23 01:43 PM
Absolutely beautiful car. I'm jealous.