Posted By: DaveRS23
Is this the future of auto recycling?
Posted By: Mr PotatoHead
Re: Is this the future of auto recycling? - 05/11/23 12:28 AM
Does not take much to see where this is all heading. 
Posted By: CMcAllister
Re: Is this the future of auto recycling? - 05/11/23 01:27 AM
Those cars look better than the beater I drive. Must have regs about cars being taken off the road at certain age or mileage. Junk cars here are usually junk.
Places I'm familiar with look more traditional...
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Places I'm familiar with look more traditional...
Posted By: Dart 500
Re: Is this the future of auto recycling? - 05/11/23 01:34 AM
Thats not a typical scrap yard, its a place buying new cars that have been lightly crashed to part them out. Your typical scrap yard isnt in the business of going to the "impact" auctions to buy new S-class or Escalades that got rear ended.
Posted By: John Brown
Re: Is this the future of auto recycling? - 05/11/23 01:35 AM
I'm betting they're flood cars. Insurance company totals them.
Posted By: A12
Re: Is this the future of auto recycling? - 05/11/23 02:16 AM
Originally Posted by John Brown
I'm betting they're flood cars. Insurance company totals them.
Cars get written off for lots of reasons that make no sense to most people. On business in Virginia back in the early '90 and let a gentleman staying at our motel join us at breakfast due to limited seating and he's there working for Mercedes NJ HQ. He's there to total and write off an entire car carrier semi of new off the ship Mercedes cars that ran off the road (summer, no rain or snow) and rolled slowly onto its side. He said there was little or no visible damage to any of the Mercedes cars on the trailer but Mercedes was not going to take any chances and was going to total and write off ALL of them without investigation or inspection. He was there to make sure they were crushed and disposed of and to make sure they never were drivable ever again. No parts recycled or salvaged. Kind of like those turbine cars eh?
Mike
Posted By: PhillyRag
Re: Is this the future of auto recycling? - 05/11/23 04:36 AM
Originally Posted by John Brown
I'm betting they're flood cars. Insurance company totals them.
Why so may "scrap" on the lot still with license plates attached?????
Posted By: John Brown
Re: Is this the future of auto recycling? - 05/11/23 12:16 PM
Originally Posted by PhillyRag
Originally Posted by John Brown
I'm betting they're flood cars. Insurance company totals them.
Why so may "scrap" on the lot still with license plates attached?????
Whenever I bought a car from California, it came with a plate. Different states, or different countries, different rules is my guess.
Posted By: Dart 500
Re: Is this the future of auto recycling? - 05/11/23 12:57 PM
Originally Posted by A12
Originally Posted by John Brown
I'm betting they're flood cars. Insurance company totals them.
Cars get written off for lots of reasons that make no sense to most people. On business in Virginia back in the early '90 and let a gentleman staying at our motel join us at breakfast due to limited seating and he's there working for Mercedes NJ HQ. He's there to total and write off an entire car carrier semi of new off the ship Mercedes cars that ran off the road (summer, no rain or snow) and rolled slowly onto its side. He said there was little or no visible damage to any of the Mercedes cars on the trailer but Mercedes was not going to take any chances and was going to total and write off ALL of them without investigation or inspection. He was there to make sure they were crushed and disposed of and to make sure they never were drivable ever again. No parts recycled or salvaged. Kind of like those turbine cars eh?
Mike
Lol, he lied to you. How many wallets were missing after breakfast?
Posted By: DaveRS23
Re: Is this the future of auto recycling? - 05/11/23 01:35 PM
Well ............
Train derailments carrying new cars typically is the same scenario. All the vehicles on the train get salvaged. Whether damaged or not:
'Another time the MoPac was involved, and something on the order of a dozen loads of new cars[automobiles], were involved. The clean-up crew pulled the autos out of the rail cars, and placed them in trenches along the ROW. Same as previously reported...Wind-rowed auto were crushed, and then covered with the soil from the digging of the trench.
In the case of the latter, MoPac had guards on the wreck scene till the cars were deemed no longer good for salvage. The story we were told by on-site officials was that the railroad's insurance carrier would rather write one check to cover the whole loss, rather than worrying about each auto individually. Also the car companies seem to feel that 'any salvage of a new car' presents a potential competitor for their 'new cars', not to mention they do not have to worry about the potential of product liabilities to worry about.'
https://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/p/268202/3039202.aspx
Sometimes the new vehicles in a transportation accident all get scrapped with no parts allowed to be sold, and sometimes there are parts that are allowed to be sold. We buy parts from the large salvage company, LKQ. In particular, over the years we have bought a good amount of new, take-off tires from LKQ from this situation. As well as engines and other items.
Train derailments carrying new cars typically is the same scenario. All the vehicles on the train get salvaged. Whether damaged or not:
'Another time the MoPac was involved, and something on the order of a dozen loads of new cars[automobiles], were involved. The clean-up crew pulled the autos out of the rail cars, and placed them in trenches along the ROW. Same as previously reported...Wind-rowed auto were crushed, and then covered with the soil from the digging of the trench.
In the case of the latter, MoPac had guards on the wreck scene till the cars were deemed no longer good for salvage. The story we were told by on-site officials was that the railroad's insurance carrier would rather write one check to cover the whole loss, rather than worrying about each auto individually. Also the car companies seem to feel that 'any salvage of a new car' presents a potential competitor for their 'new cars', not to mention they do not have to worry about the potential of product liabilities to worry about.'
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Sometimes the new vehicles in a transportation accident all get scrapped with no parts allowed to be sold, and sometimes there are parts that are allowed to be sold. We buy parts from the large salvage company, LKQ. In particular, over the years we have bought a good amount of new, take-off tires from LKQ from this situation. As well as engines and other items.
Posted By: not_a_charger
Re: Is this the future of auto recycling? - 05/11/23 01:58 PM
^ been this way for years. I've been at LKQ's largest yard (Akron, OH) several times for work, have seen them scrap train loads of cars, including cars without a mark on them. They also buy things like magazine test vehicle, vehicles used in ads, etc. They have to film the process of dismantling the vehicle and provide that video to the OEM. Also, if there were any prototype/non-production parts, those must be removed and returned to the OEM. I remember watching them cut up three 3rd Gen WS6 Trans Ams that GM had used to test a differently designed rear seat. They had to remove the seats and return them to GM, and then cut up the car. Guy with the plasma cutter was having a blast cutting those cars in half.
Posted By: Bad340fish
Re: Is this the future of auto recycling? - 05/11/23 05:15 PM
When I was in tech school in 97 we had some shop cars that were brand new cars. They all had some kind of story where they were damaged in shipping or something along those lines. The damage was not severe but for liability reasons the cars were written off and donated. I learned recently that the Chevrolet turbo sprint that had been there for a long time was actually really rare lol. It had some pretty heavy C pillar damage but only had like 9 miles on it.
Posted By: Powerflow
Re: Is this the future of auto recycling? - 05/11/23 05:43 PM
I sold new Oldsmobiles for a short time in the mid-'80's. A Cutlass Supreme somehow slid off the trailer ramp when it was being delivered and got a slight bend in the chassis. GM took it back and scrapped it. They didn't want any future liability concerns with it.
Posted By: hp383
Re: Is this the future of auto recycling? - 05/11/23 07:04 PM
2:45 "All of our fork trucks are electric"
3:25 "we recover the petrol and diesel, the diesel we use in our fork trucks"
uhhh huhh
3:25 "we recover the petrol and diesel, the diesel we use in our fork trucks"
uhhh huhh
Posted By: moparx
Re: Is this the future of auto recycling? - 05/12/23 04:24 PM
that guy kept referencing e-bag, so i wonder if the fee structure is the same over there as it is here ?
wonder how the shipping costs compare as well.
wonder how the shipping costs compare as well.