New Dishwasher Advice Needed!

Well, our second dishwasher in 16 years has apparently STB, so it's time for #3. Last time I researched what to get & general consensus was Kitchen Aid - made in the USA. Bosch was waaay too finicky & high-tech & a digital nightmare with lots of control panel failures - these are a few items I remember from past research. Anyway, we don't need anything fancy, just something that works well & will last a while.

Any advice much appreciated as I'm planning on heading out later today to get one. I am not going to try & repair this one!!! I know how to install them, not fix them!

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Do not under any circumstance even consider Samsung or LG. Look at some of the appliance repair message boards to confirm. Whirlpool is in Benton Harbor Michigan and makes most of their stuff in the USA. I aim with you as to the fancy stuff. Just put a timer knob on it to control it and it will out last any circuit board.

We love our Bosch. Seriously, its a dishwasher, how hard can it be or how dumb are you?!

Totally agree ! These are sold by big box stores. When we replaced (all) our appliances a year ago I wasn't going to buy this brand but my wife was "looking" in Lowes and of course a soleperson started giving her the pitch. When he was done I asked "what's replacement parts availabilioty like" and he looked to the floor and sheepishly replied "there aren't any" !! Go to a scrapyard some day and look at all the scrapped appliances ... they're all Samsung or LG I'll take North American or European any day - I won't touch an Asian major appliance !!

Family member with Samsung isn’t pleased with how it cleans. Hasn’t failed yet because she hand washes most often lol

Had to go away from timer knobs many years ago in the rentals. Might do better with an owner at the helm than a renter. Had good luck with whirlpool quiet partners with the hard food disposer. Very hard to get one these days that has that feature. Just a way better setup than a filter.

Bosch here was 13 years old when we bought place. Owners fed it lots of dog hair. I got it cleaned up and it did pretty well until it sprung a leak under all the covering day before Christmas. Replaced with new Bosch. Been stellar so far.

No sales droid I know has a clue about that. I don't have any problems getting parts for my LG, had it for about 12 years now. But I don;t buy parts from the big box store, which if that is what the droid was thinking is the only way this makes any kind of sense.

I think all kitchen appliances now are crap. All of our major appliances are Whirlpool (range, fridge, microwave) with the exception of the dishwasher which is a Maytag. They are all over 20 years old. Looking at what's out there now, I can't find anything that is even close to what I have based on a touch, feel, and look evaluation.

I like our Jenn-air, it is made in the USA! Another American made brand is Viking.

If you want to do your homework on them, sign up and read up at consumer affairs or consumer reports.

Our 15 year OLD fridge and dishwasher finally crapped out beyond repair and we went to the local "scratch and dent" outlet--they get all the stuff Home Depot has to take back due to damage. Got a heavy discount and warranty still in effect.

We went with stainless Kitchen Aid dishwasher and fridge. Also got the stove and microwave to match--our old stuff was white and everything now is stainless.

I'm 90% sure our Kitchen Aid dishwasher is a Whirlpool under the skin. So far so good. Cleans WAY better, is WAY quieter, and holds WAY more than the old one in the same space.

Yes, Whirlpool makes Kitchen Aid and Maytag.

I'd suggest to OP to get one with the stainless steel tub.

I had a Whirlpool, the diverter valve went bad, twice in three years.

I have a Bosch that is about 6 or 7 years old now. Zero trouble, super quiet, super powerful, zero complaints.

I actually set out to buy whatever was a step above frigidaire because mine only last 3-4 years. I ended up with the Bosch because it has this awesome tray on top for silverware and I do not regret my purchase one bit.

Our Bosch has been trouble free, it’s about five years old. Very quiet too.

It's been several years but I got a Kenmore because CR gave a high rating. I remember the Boschs getting high ratings too. I've been happy with it. Only thing is they are all probably very low water use/water conservation and take a very long time on normal cycle. The first time I used it I couldn't believe how long it took. You have to remember to turn it on long before you need dishes!!!

Yes, Whirlpool makes Kitchen Aid and Maytag.

I'd suggest to OP to get one with the stainless steel tub. [/quote]

Well, I went & done it - got a GE with stainless tub. They said the Whirlpools were way backlogged & they did not even know when they would get more in. I liked the layout inside the best & liked the way the sprayers were situated inside. It'll be in tomorrow from their warehouse. I was not impressed with the Whirlpools or the Maytags. (the first dishwasher in the home we are in was a Maytag & we were never happy with the performance of it). Anyway, that's the scoop. Appreciate all your feedback.

So quiet they put a red light that shines on the floor so you know its running !!

about 6-9 months back our 15 year old or so Kitchen aid puked a pump and made the kitchen floor pregnant LOL. Choices at the time were limited so the wife chose a Bosch. Has a different loading arrangement and is a heat free dry type that requires specific types of DW soap. Overall she's happy with it and feels it is better than the previous.

I just ordered one for my new house. I shopped around because I wanted one that was quiet. My sisters is really noisy. The one I bought is rated at 48db and has a lot of insulation. My new house has an open floorplan to the kitchen.

We had a Bosch, and it was fantastic. However, their other appliances are garbage. When we remodeled the kitchen, we wanted matching appliances, and we went with Kitchen Aid. The dishwasher has been great so far. Not quite as good as the Bosch (which was nearly silent and had a faster wash/dry cycle), but overall, we're very happy with it.

Maytag owner here. I bought it with an extended warranty for 5 years. The month it was about to expire, the board went out. I promptly renewed the warranty and it was replaced no charge, no hassle. Thats when the nightmare began. For the next 2 years, every month something would fail. We would place a call, the problem was fixed, life was good for a month. Every single component with the exception of the pump assembly was replaced. After the rebuild its been great again. Mom has a Bosch, says it was way too much money- but its the best dishwasher she's ever had.

We have had a Bosch Dishwasher for a couple of years and love it.

I used to manage some duplexes and I started using Bosch dishwashers in those also on the recommendation of a service tech.

I think the only service call I had on one was a clogged filter and that was under warranty.

At home we also have a Bosch Side Door double oven which my wife loves.

in the prior 28 years, we had been through several dishwashers. KitchenAid, whirlpool, ge,. They all kind of did the job, but my wife always had to wash the dishes off pretty good before she put them in the dishwasher. I made sure that we have a good flow of hot, soft water. My comment to her was always if you have to wash the dishes first, why even have a dishwasher? So we always did a bunch of research and looked up what Consumer Reports had to say and all of that stuff before we would buy a new dishwasher, but we were always disappointed.
Then 8-1/2 year sago we finally got a Bosch shx68t52uc. We are so impressed with it! Now for the first time ever, Sheila never ever rinses the dishes before putting them in the dishwasher. I don't care if it's baked on cake, dried out oat meal, whatever. This thing gets it clean. And it's so quiet you can barely tell it's running. In eight and a half years we have had not one single problem or repair or any issues whatsoever. I would very highly recommend it to anybody!

Edit: btw, And I think this is very important, we have it plugged into a high quality surge protector. You need that with all these electronic gizmos and power outages and surges and stuff.

My test has been, will it get peanut butter off a butter knife. My wife will put the knife straight into the dishwasher with peanut butter on it and so far none of the dishwashers have won that challenge.

Just checked and our recent (w/in last year or two?) purchase is a Kitchen Aid. As you said, cleans well (especially on "TOUGH" setting) and is surprising quiet. The only thing I don't like is I'd have designed the silverware holder differently. And, yes, it does take longer to run a full cycle than our old one.

As others have said, the state of today's appliances is sad. We've held off on new washer & dryer because the reviews indicate there's a high percentage of them that have issues w/ their electronics. The change in washers to "high efficiency" designs also seems to translate into "they don't clean as well now". It's the worst of both worlds: more complex and less reliable.

I have similar test with my dog....long story

bingo... mine toooo... my wife just puts the knife in the dishwasher and 9 times out of 10, there is still residue left.... i saw on this old house an appliance guy saying that to help give the dishwasher a boost, he turns on the faucet hot water b4 starting the dishwasher ... and he said that todays drying cycle is not as efficient as days gone by.... energy efficiency ....

Mine doesn't have a heating element in it. The plus side to that is you can put anything anywhere in it, no worries about plastic stuff on the bottom shelf. The downside is stuff doesn't get as dry but that isn't a big deal.

Jenn Air is whirlpool. Not sure who makes Viking.

Well, finished the install tonight & I have a load of dishes going. I'll say this, this GE is a much lighter-duty dishwasher (cheaper) than our old Kitchen Aid, & the Kitchen Aid was maybe 13 years old. Everything about it is light duty. I also don't like the way the racks load - I could not really tell this in the store. In this thread now since I bought the GE, there are a lot of positive comments about the Bosh - I didn't even look at them because I have read & heard for many years they are problem-prone. Well, when this one finally fails, I'll be taking a close look at the Bosch.

Hopefully the GE will go the distance. My last Kitchen aid went ~ 15 years but we at the time we were extremely limited due to our elected officials We'll see how the Bosch does long term