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Any carpenters or doors installers here?

Posted By: roadrunninMark

Any carpenters or doors installers here? - 06/10/22 01:40 AM

I purchased a front door back in Oct and it is about 2 inches wider than my "rough opening". It is a 36" door with 2 12" sidelites. Trying to find a good looking door in the correct size was almost impossible and I thought I did get the right one, but it turns out it is a little too wide. I don't want to take it back as I like the looks of it and it seems all the 60" wides are the same width of the one I got. I have had a few installers over and they said they are going to have to do some "cutting" or expanding the frame opening to get it in. It is possible but will need work.

Here is my question, has anyone taken apart the actual door frame that surrounds the door and sidelites and trimmed down the sidelites (and surround) to fit the smaller opening of the house? It appears to be screwed into the frame but I don't know how it is attached to the frame pieces between the main door. I figure if I take off a 1/2" off of each "sidelite", that will get me the 2" I need not to mess with the house. It would be close to the trim but I think there is just enough room. It is a fiberglass door and fiberglass sidelite but the frame is all wood. Link to the door:

Thanks.....

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Feather...w-Sidelites-332491-3A5/205211135#overlay
Posted By: oldjonny

Re: Any carpenters or doors installers here? - 06/10/22 01:48 AM

Wait..you bought a $2K door and you want to cut it up and alter it? Is your house brick or what is the big deal with opening up the framing?
Posted By: 5thAve

Re: Any carpenters or doors installers here? - 06/10/22 02:12 AM

I don't think you'll be able to cut it down like that without having it look bad from the proportions being off. The part you want to cut off is probably hollow and you'd be cutting off the edge that's closed off to give it support.
Posted By: Dcuda69

Re: Any carpenters or doors installers here? - 06/10/22 03:12 AM

Originally Posted by oldjonny
Wait..you bought a $2K door and you want to cut it up and alter it? Is your house brick or what is the big deal with opening up the framing?


Agree! You bought a 2k door and now you want to figure out how to make it fit?? Should have coordinated with an installer before the purchase. Good luck!
Posted By: 6PakBee

Re: Any carpenters or doors installers here? - 06/10/22 03:37 AM

Eliminate one of the sidelights. Or bite the bullet and widen the rough opening. This would mean a new header, king studs, and a jack stud on one side.
Posted By: Stanton

Re: Any carpenters or doors installers here? - 06/10/22 01:04 PM

"Home Depot" pretty much explains it. Had you called a Window and Door retailer they would have come out, measured the opening and ordered you the correct size door/frame. Probably would have been a few more bucks for the door but now you're going to pay through the nose for someone to butcher the door or the house. Good luck !!
Posted By: cudaman1969

Re: Any carpenters or doors installers here? - 06/10/22 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by roadrunninMark
I purchased a front door back in Oct and it is about 2 inches wider than my "rough opening". It is a 36" door with 2 12" sidelites. Trying to find a good looking door in the correct size was almost impossible and I thought I did get the right one, but it turns out it is a little too wide. I don't want to take it back as I like the looks of it and it seems all the 60" wides are the same width of the one I got. I have had a few installers over and they said they are going to have to do some "cutting" or expanding the frame opening to get it in. It is possible but will need work.

Here is my question, has anyone taken apart the actual door frame that surrounds the door and sidelites and trimmed down the sidelites (and surround) to fit the smaller opening of the house? It appears to be screwed into the frame but I don't know how it is attached to the frame pieces between the main door. I figure if I take off a 1/2" off of each "sidelite", that will get me the 2" I need not to mess with the house. It would be close to the trim but I think there is just enough room. It is a fiberglass door and fiberglass sidelite but the frame is all wood. Link to the door:

Thanks.....

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Feather...w-Sidelites-332491-3A5/205211135#overlay

I make doors-side lites. Many thru 50 years. If what you bought is really old maybe but not the new ones. New class is all tempered and can’t be cut down but the surrounding wood can be cut (not sure it would look good) cut the top jamb and sill plate then move the side jambs over, screw it back together. The side lites can be cut on a table saw just look for screws and nails holding the together, after cutting put the back in. It all depends on how wide the styles are behind the stop. Most if not all will never notice the difference
Posted By: roadrunninMark

Re: Any carpenters or doors installers here? - 06/10/22 05:28 PM

The outside of the house is stucco. I had an installer over and he didn't think it was a good idea enlarging the opening.

Getting rid of one of the sidelites won't work either, then the opening will be too big.

Yes, I bought at home depot because I was tired of waiting for my window / door guy to come by. I've been trying to get his installer team to come out since December, still haven't fit me in. I had another installer come by and he's the one that said he doesn't recommend opening it up.

Cudaman - thanks for the info, the sidelites are fiberglass as well. I think I am going to have the opening expanded.
Posted By: Stanton

Re: Any carpenters or doors installers here? - 06/10/22 09:51 PM

Installers make money on speed and volume. Something like this is just a pain in the azz that will take more time than they can charge for and you'll probably [censored] when its done. Take the damn thing back to HD and buy the right f'n size !!
Posted By: mopars4ever

Re: Any carpenters or doors installers here? - 06/10/22 10:11 PM

I custom ordered a front door the correct size from Home depot. It wasn`t that much more cost wise.
Posted By: 6PakBee

Re: Any carpenters or doors installers here? - 06/11/22 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by roadrunninMark
The outside of the house is stucco. I had an installer over and he didn't think it was a good idea enlarging the opening.

Getting rid of one of the sidelites won't work either, then the opening will be too big.

Yes, I bought at home depot because I was tired of waiting for my window / door guy to come by. I've been trying to get his installer team to come out since December, still haven't fit me in. I had another installer come by and he's the one that said he doesn't recommend opening it up.

Cudaman - thanks for the info, the sidelites are fiberglass as well. I think I am going to have the opening expanded.


You put a filler in the opening.
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